Eve Online is dying, and has been dying for a decade, because the present crop of devs don't know what fun is.
Namely, not PvE. If you want a game for "make line go up" there have always been better choices. Eve was about the emergent gameplay of a world with barely any rules besides "don't hack the game".
Ironically given that Eve was founded by people who missed the way Ultima Online was before the Trammel update, the game turned into much worse of a carebear catering experience.
Here I thought I'd make my point by talking about "make line go up".
The nullsec guys are complete tools, yes. But the bulk of the playerbase still squats in hisec mining and ratting, and that atrocious isk fountain of incursions. Fully half of them are afk at all times to boot. You can bump them into another cell for God's sakes and nothing, because they're logged in to not play the game, just trying to make line go up.
It's no surprise when they quit. Because nothing about any of that is actually fun. What little fun was left in Eve consisted of finding inventive ways to kill those people.
I was a lowsec and wormhole player myself, with several awox and suicider alts. As far as I'm concerned that's the actual game.
I know who the fuckers squatting in hisec are. I spent half a decade killing them. The nullsec guys mostly play the economy and rat in nullsec because the bounties for it are too high.
They're not the same people as the afk miners. Nullsec corps don't need Plagioclase and Veldspar.
I spent a long time killing both groups. They're not the same people. That's just cope tbh. And the people criticizing carebears are different people too.
It's inevitably going to be the same 0.0 players with a bunch of high sec mining
Nah. Null mining would be way more profitable. They had moons and better ice. Plus you can have someone rorq with you AND have you friends to hot drop on anyone who tries to pewpew.
High sec "afk" miners were more likely people like me who went "My freighter alt is doing fuck all while I run WH relic sites. Might as well train into an Orca and make a couple ISK on the other monitor."
Eve Online is dying, and has been dying for a decade, because the present crop of devs don't know what fun is.
Namely, not PvE. If you want a game for "make line go up" there have always been better choices. Eve was about the emergent gameplay of a world with barely any rules besides "don't hack the game".
Ironically given that Eve was founded by people who missed the way Ultima Online was before the Trammel update, the game turned into much worse of a carebear catering experience.
Here I thought I'd make my point by talking about "make line go up".
The nullsec guys are complete tools, yes. But the bulk of the playerbase still squats in hisec mining and ratting, and that atrocious isk fountain of incursions. Fully half of them are afk at all times to boot. You can bump them into another cell for God's sakes and nothing, because they're logged in to not play the game, just trying to make line go up.
It's no surprise when they quit. Because nothing about any of that is actually fun. What little fun was left in Eve consisted of finding inventive ways to kill those people.
I was a lowsec and wormhole player myself, with several awox and suicider alts. As far as I'm concerned that's the actual game.
I know who the fuckers squatting in hisec are. I spent half a decade killing them. The nullsec guys mostly play the economy and rat in nullsec because the bounties for it are too high.
They're not the same people as the afk miners. Nullsec corps don't need Plagioclase and Veldspar.
I spent a long time killing both groups. They're not the same people. That's just cope tbh. And the people criticizing carebears are different people too.
Nah. Null mining would be way more profitable. They had moons and better ice. Plus you can have someone rorq with you AND have you friends to hot drop on anyone who tries to pewpew.
High sec "afk" miners were more likely people like me who went "My freighter alt is doing fuck all while I run WH relic sites. Might as well train into an Orca and make a couple ISK on the other monitor."