Rudy Giuliani almost single-handedly dismantled the leadership of the New York mafia. He spent the 1980s and 90s staring across the courtroom at some of the most influential and dangerous organized crime leaders in American history, total sociopaths who were responsible for dozens or hundreds of murders. And he won. He beat them all, only to fall victim to a criminal syndicate far more powerful and sociopathic than John Gotti or Gaspipe Casso could ever be.
It's easy to forget what a genuine hero Rudy was in the 90s and how he was basically Bukele before Bukele for cleaning up NYC. He did a good enough job that the Democrat elected after him wasn't able to completely ruin the city again.
I've had it said to me more than once that a lot of the kids and grandkids of mobsters are getting into government jobs because they recognize that the government is now a much bigger, badder syndicate than the mob.
Yeah, and it's all across the board, too, top to bottom. The first guy to tell that to me what the grandson of a capo. And one of the senior homicide detectives on his city's PD.
How can you say that? There's so much less labor union corruption, racketeering, random street violence, drug-pushing, sports fixing, prostitution and organized car theft going on now than when . . . oh wait.
In terms of petty crime and thuggery in the streets no. The yakuza aren't good people, but having that structure means low level thugs have to be a part of the hierarchy and follow some rules. Rather than exterminating them, the Japanese police allowed them to exist in a symbiotic relationship, where they were kept in check with constant surveillance (guys on the inside), and were used to keep small-time gangs at manageable levels. Only the egregious examples of bosses openly committing violent crime or extortion were targeted. I do think that contributed to the famous safety of Japanese streets. We see the opposite in America where individual incidents of violent crime and theft started going up in Chicago and Las Vegas not long after major mafia crackdowns. As bad as they were, the mob wouldn't have allowed joggers jogging through their neighborhoods.
If we're talking NYC and how the mob was entangled in all construction and garbage collection and shit, yeah getting them out of the business was a big boon for business. They're still around in unions and some smaller businesses though, but not powerful enough to threaten street thugs.
Rudy Giuliani almost single-handedly dismantled the leadership of the New York mafia. He spent the 1980s and 90s staring across the courtroom at some of the most influential and dangerous organized crime leaders in American history, total sociopaths who were responsible for dozens or hundreds of murders. And he won. He beat them all, only to fall victim to a criminal syndicate far more powerful and sociopathic than John Gotti or Gaspipe Casso could ever be.
It's easy to forget what a genuine hero Rudy was in the 90s and how he was basically Bukele before Bukele for cleaning up NYC. He did a good enough job that the Democrat elected after him wasn't able to completely ruin the city again.
Rudy endorsed Bloomberg.
I've had it said to me more than once that a lot of the kids and grandkids of mobsters are getting into government jobs because they recognize that the government is now a much bigger, badder syndicate than the mob.
That's how we got nancy pelosi and the kennedys
Yeah, and it's all across the board, too, top to bottom. The first guy to tell that to me what the grandson of a capo. And one of the senior homicide detectives on his city's PD.
Are we in fact better off for the dismantling of the mafia?
How can you say that? There's so much less labor union corruption, racketeering, random street violence, drug-pushing, sports fixing, prostitution and organized car theft going on now than when . . . oh wait.
They only dismantled the catholic italian mafia. They didnt touch the one run by people from a different religion and another small state
Something smells fishy for sure 👃
In terms of petty crime and thuggery in the streets no. The yakuza aren't good people, but having that structure means low level thugs have to be a part of the hierarchy and follow some rules. Rather than exterminating them, the Japanese police allowed them to exist in a symbiotic relationship, where they were kept in check with constant surveillance (guys on the inside), and were used to keep small-time gangs at manageable levels. Only the egregious examples of bosses openly committing violent crime or extortion were targeted. I do think that contributed to the famous safety of Japanese streets. We see the opposite in America where individual incidents of violent crime and theft started going up in Chicago and Las Vegas not long after major mafia crackdowns. As bad as they were, the mob wouldn't have allowed joggers jogging through their neighborhoods.
If we're talking NYC and how the mob was entangled in all construction and garbage collection and shit, yeah getting them out of the business was a big boon for business. They're still around in unions and some smaller businesses though, but not powerful enough to threaten street thugs.