British private schools (Known as public schools because...British)
I am not sure, but I have a reason I think this is. In England, private school is a school so private it's not open to the public. Like schooling you get from a private tutor. Maybe your homeschooler pooled resource thing that you do in America.
Public schools are open to the public. You have to pay, and they don't admit everyone -- even rather nearly the opposite of that -- but it's not "private" either.
The US's history is different. Of course there were always some places to get an education, but as far as where anything resembling regular people would go: there was at first nothing. Then there were public schools. Private schools only came later in elementaries. Universities are a bit different.
You're on the right track, but I do think "private schools" by the standard definition of that term do also exist in England - they just don't receive government funding and are so exclusive that, as you say, barely anyone gets in...
Though I'm not sure.
Literally everywhere outside the UK uses the US definition of those two concepts (private and public schools), though. Including both Aus and NZ, so this is... Purely a British thing. Although also maybe Ireland, though again, idk...
Americans also don't have testing for schools. The magnet and private schools do, but most American public schools just let you in. They may hold a student back, but not for long because a horny 13 year old is a big problem in grade school. Grade school was the traditional out point for students, so most left after that and went to work on the farm or factory.
Schools after that were more exclusive and demanded more from students. If you could prove yourself, you could make it to higher education, and even university. Both of my grandparents started at low levels and worked to the top. So a dirt farmer in Argentina became a dentist in Germany and the US, or a train worker went on to work in a chemistry lab studying radioactive materials and oil from shale. The US government paid for all of that in one way or another, but it made sense since so few did that. I won't go on and on, but things changed even when my Dad was getting his doctorate, and was a pyramid scheme by the time I got in.
However, schools can be different. In Germany, if you showed an aptitude for building and working with your hands they got you an apprenticeship style education. There have been some very smart people that came out of that. Many of the first real rocket engineers, the ones fought over near the end of World War II, didn't have a university education. The first terrorist bomber in Europe could rewire a pa system to communicate with his girlfriend in another cell. That's the official story anyway.
Education in England had two types, the geeky clerics and the world traveling rich. Private school was the teacher who took the students as they travelled to explain history and numbers. This was a very educated clerk. The term doctor and master came from the clerks. Rich people paid for their children to study and pass tests at monasteries and libraries for a better understanding.
The public school was the monastery and the private one was the traveling clerk. Since both got popular they separated and became their own thing after a long time. We still wear the clerical robes to show off how smart we are. The president of the school looks like he should be fighting crime.
The American school system was clerks only, and often paid for by public money and care. That's why it feels so different.
The Chinese had a similar thing with grand tests to move up to the next great rank. You knew the health of the dynasty based on how many applied for the test. If it was too many, the entire thing was about to collapse. There's a book about the Hell of this testing, but I can't remember the name and can't find it on Amazon.
Much of the testing we have in Europe came from those ideas, because it was such an important country to us at the time. The Americans basically got rid of that except for a few tests.
While in a class on Terrorism, we did a one day study of this group. The professor had tons of sources and info since he was a kid who grew up in the office that investigated them.
Literally everywhere outside the UK uses the US definition of those two concepts (private and public schools),
Public education came around after "we" all left England. For the vast majority public education was the first education that came around in these lands. The British may have had some previous experience, being more civilized than the colonists.
The real question is why this leaked out in the first place.
The remarks took place in the context of proposals from the Italian bishops to amend guidelines on candidates to seminaries.
It wasn't a public meeting. It was a private meeting with Italian bishops (the Italian home guard). And the Vatican keeps meticulous records of who attends meetings and who does not.
There appears to be more to this story than just the (mass immigration supporting) pope saying something that wouldn't be expected of someone holding his position. The pope is infallible, after all, according to papal doctrines.
The pope is infallible, after all, according to papal doctrines.
Only when he says so. Or, from the Catholic perspective, only when he tells you he is speaking with God's authority. The rest of the time he's just the leader of the priests.
You think far too highly of CNN. For it to be shocking you would need an implicit expectation that they had some internal framework that would make them reluctant to say faggotry. They have no such standards. If everything is about power and narrative control, however... well if you can make people say "f word" like they do "n word" congrats, you're wielding some real narrative control equating those two. Though, faggotry and niggerdry are both learned behaviors. There's certainly predispositions but if man can't conquer nature well then ate they a man or a beast in the first place?
I am not sure, but I have a reason I think this is. In England, private school is a school so private it's not open to the public. Like schooling you get from a private tutor. Maybe your homeschooler pooled resource thing that you do in America.
Public schools are open to the public. You have to pay, and they don't admit everyone -- even rather nearly the opposite of that -- but it's not "private" either.
The US's history is different. Of course there were always some places to get an education, but as far as where anything resembling regular people would go: there was at first nothing. Then there were public schools. Private schools only came later in elementaries. Universities are a bit different.
You're on the right track, but I do think "private schools" by the standard definition of that term do also exist in England - they just don't receive government funding and are so exclusive that, as you say, barely anyone gets in...
Though I'm not sure.
Literally everywhere outside the UK uses the US definition of those two concepts (private and public schools), though. Including both Aus and NZ, so this is... Purely a British thing. Although also maybe Ireland, though again, idk...
Americans also don't have testing for schools. The magnet and private schools do, but most American public schools just let you in. They may hold a student back, but not for long because a horny 13 year old is a big problem in grade school. Grade school was the traditional out point for students, so most left after that and went to work on the farm or factory.
Schools after that were more exclusive and demanded more from students. If you could prove yourself, you could make it to higher education, and even university. Both of my grandparents started at low levels and worked to the top. So a dirt farmer in Argentina became a dentist in Germany and the US, or a train worker went on to work in a chemistry lab studying radioactive materials and oil from shale. The US government paid for all of that in one way or another, but it made sense since so few did that. I won't go on and on, but things changed even when my Dad was getting his doctorate, and was a pyramid scheme by the time I got in.
However, schools can be different. In Germany, if you showed an aptitude for building and working with your hands they got you an apprenticeship style education. There have been some very smart people that came out of that. Many of the first real rocket engineers, the ones fought over near the end of World War II, didn't have a university education. The first terrorist bomber in Europe could rewire a pa system to communicate with his girlfriend in another cell. That's the official story anyway.
Education in England had two types, the geeky clerics and the world traveling rich. Private school was the teacher who took the students as they travelled to explain history and numbers. This was a very educated clerk. The term doctor and master came from the clerks. Rich people paid for their children to study and pass tests at monasteries and libraries for a better understanding.
The public school was the monastery and the private one was the traveling clerk. Since both got popular they separated and became their own thing after a long time. We still wear the clerical robes to show off how smart we are. The president of the school looks like he should be fighting crime.
The American school system was clerks only, and often paid for by public money and care. That's why it feels so different.
The Chinese had a similar thing with grand tests to move up to the next great rank. You knew the health of the dynasty based on how many applied for the test. If it was too many, the entire thing was about to collapse. There's a book about the Hell of this testing, but I can't remember the name and can't find it on Amazon.
Much of the testing we have in Europe came from those ideas, because it was such an important country to us at the time. The Americans basically got rid of that except for a few tests.
Sorry, I'm now thinking about it too much.
Sorry I took a while to read all this, but I’m intrigued by your story of the bomber and the PA system…
Any chance of a follow-up on that?
Baader Meinhoff group.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction
The guy was
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andreas_Baader
While in a class on Terrorism, we did a one day study of this group. The professor had tons of sources and info since he was a kid who grew up in the office that investigated them.
Public education came around after "we" all left England. For the vast majority public education was the first education that came around in these lands. The British may have had some previous experience, being more civilized than the colonists.
Always funny that, even with a poor pope, the answer to "is the Pope Catholic?" remains the same. Francis is still always cutting it close, though.
Edit: The Italians have always said: "after a thin pope, a fat pope." I hope they're right.
I used to think he was a closet faggot, but I guess he's just a socialist. Mea culpa.
So the Pope doesn't like faggots, yet he pushes them on the world. Why?
he's a jesuit
Maybe he is just old, and that's what they called it when he was a kid.
Maybe I'm saying that because in English faggotry is a really old fashioned word, unless we're talking about it's neo-4chan usage.
The real question is why this leaked out in the first place.
It wasn't a public meeting. It was a private meeting with Italian bishops (the Italian home guard). And the Vatican keeps meticulous records of who attends meetings and who does not.
There appears to be more to this story than just the (mass immigration supporting) pope saying something that wouldn't be expected of someone holding his position. The pope is infallible, after all, according to papal doctrines.
Only when he says so. Or, from the Catholic perspective, only when he tells you he is speaking with God's authority. The rest of the time he's just the leader of the priests.
Growing up in Australia, Faggot always meant a gay pedo - like the Doctor from Lost in Space. Not all Gays are Faggots but all Faggots are Gay
"Fag" did previously mean ciggie, here, though...
Hence Fags (the lollies) changing their name to "Fads", some time during my childhood (and I'm not that old)...
In fact, I'm fairly confident that in regular conversation, "Pass me a fag" is still a reasonably regular thing...
See also: "fag end".
Yeah same here - but I think people made a fairly obvious distinction of 'fag' and 'faggot'
You think far too highly of CNN. For it to be shocking you would need an implicit expectation that they had some internal framework that would make them reluctant to say faggotry. They have no such standards. If everything is about power and narrative control, however... well if you can make people say "f word" like they do "n word" congrats, you're wielding some real narrative control equating those two. Though, faggotry and niggerdry are both learned behaviors. There's certainly predispositions but if man can't conquer nature well then ate they a man or a beast in the first place?
They have in internal policy of never saying anything funny, ever.