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There's an edit war going on in wiki now with progressives trying to edit yasuke into a black samurai (twitter.com)
posted 2 years ago by evilplushie 2 years ago by evilplushie +74 / -0
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– BetterNameUnfound 47 points 2 years ago +47 / -0

Yasuke did not exist.

The sole argument for the existence of Yasuke is the Jesuit chronicles of their missions to Japan. Which were filled with nonsense and aren't taken seriously by most Catholics. Several of them were bloating their accounts in hopes of a bishopric.

Nobunaga never mentioned him in his own writings. Which given that Nobunaga would write poems about pretty much anything he laid eyes on, suggests that the two never met. The sole corroborating account stated that one of the missionary priests had a black servant, and they presented him as a curiosity to Nobunaga's court, but there is evidence of nothing else.

Here's another strain on historical credulity. Supposedly Yasuke fought for Nobunaga as a samurai. One of the claims is that he spoke fluent Japanese.

The time period between when they supposedly met and when Nobunaga was assassinated by Akechi Mitsuhide was... three months.

A black guy from what would now be Morocco, probably a slave to the priests, and someone whose language skills would have included mostly broken Portuguese, supposedly learned the second most difficult language on earth in three months. For reference, Japanese has three goddamn formal alphabets.

There is nothing about the story that is historically credible. There is more evidence of Santa Claus than there is of Yasuke. Now if you want a Japanese historical figure that is actually interesting and actually real, I suggest Honda Tadakatsu. He's a real life Hercules.

(credit to u/Kaarous)

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

The time period between when they supposedly met and when Nobunaga was assassinated by Akechi Mitsuhide was... three months.

Japan possessed the Hyperbolic Time Chamber though

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– CatoTheElder 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Don't forget, the Jesuits were majority Conversos. You can change their religion, but you can't change their genes.

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– BlokeyMcBlokeFace 30 points 2 years ago +30 / -0

User @Natemup has used this thesis/screenplay Yasuke: The Black Samurai as source for the claim that Yasuke was a samurai. I'd like to point out that this is not an academic thesis on history, nor is it peer-reviewed, but it a screenplay thesis for a Master of Fine Arts in Screenwriting. Clearly, it has no historical or academic relevance here.

The afrophelia sufferers are using their own fan-fiction as evidence in the debate. Top kek.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Yasuke

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– ParadigmShift2070 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

All they need to do is have some news website write an article about the thesis, and bam, it becomes a legit source

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– Nohomo 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

I wonder if people are coming back to Wikipedia to fight in edit wars? I was under the impression that Wikipedia was just dominated by the woke trannies and they could just edit in whatever woke crap they wanted and no one opposed them. Based gamers coming reclaim Wikipedia? Or was there always woke vs based edit wars there?

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– MLGS 21 points 2 years ago +21 / -0

There have always been edit wars, and the troon jannies always win because they've been there for 20 years and can't be dislodged or challenged in any way.

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– ThreeLights 13 points 2 years ago +13 / -0

When you don’t have a job and just seethe edit and fap/dilate, you can change anything online, too.

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– 83671R18 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

They do have a job. They're just paid with US taxpayer dollars for upholding state narratives.

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– MLGS 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

"lol they dont have jobs" is just coping, there are lots of right wing conspiracy nuts who are equally as unemployable who did nothing with their time.

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– LauriThorne 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Last time I checked right wing conspiracy theorists don't get to change mainstream sources of information.

Don't pretend that they are the same.

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– BrainJuice 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Wasn't there a non-woke Wiki alternative? Or was that an alternative to tvtropes?

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– CatoTheElder 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

https://infogalactic.com/info/Main_Page

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– MLGS 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I think there have been multiple attempts but the thumb is permanently on the scale for Wikipedia so none of them can ever succeed.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Wikipedia is a record of what the MSM says. It's literally in their rules that their information comes from CNN . And definitely not from RT or Fox News. I don't think that's how an encyclopedia is supposed to work. Encyclopedia articles should be based on valid primary sources. The press print rumors and disinformation -- hearsay.

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– Assassin47 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Wikipedia was just dominated by the woke trannies and they could just edit in whatever woke crap they wanted

It is, but they still hold up a facade of credibility, requiring some kind of source for claims. This revisionism is just blatant and unsupported, there's very little they can do to keep it in without using so many weasel words that the paragraph is rendered completely meaningless.

No doubt the page will be locked soon enough.

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– Filo76 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

5 years from now they’ll say he became Daimyo.

10 years from now they’ll say he became Shogun.

15 years from now they’ll say he became emperor, but history whitewashed (yellowwashed?) him.

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– AlfredicEnglishRules 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

What I think of when I hear the big hubub of Yusuke

https://youtu.be/1_u0FybE8dQ

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– OmegaBird 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Ubisoft game. Automatic failure. They only know how to make fucking garbage. Anyone with a shred of taste will have boycott that entire company when uplay came into existence and stuck to the boycott. I did and will probably never reverse it.

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– You_Are_Based 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Wow chuds are really accusing us of an INTER-TEMPORAL edit war based on PAST events?

What's next? Really! Next you'll accuse us of a WORLDWIDE conspiracy to change things on the WORLD WIDE WEB! Get a life, schizos!

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0
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– 83671R18 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Your fear is most splendid, subhuman.

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