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The new scaremonger tactic? Christian Nationalism (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 2 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 2 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +51 / -0
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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 51 points 2 years ago +51 / -0

This may surprise non-Christian ignoramuses, but the Bible is in fact longer than the Sermon on the Mount.

The line about "apostolic Christianity" is particularly funny when the "foremost apostle" Paul* was by far the most ruthless on homosexuality out of any writer of the Bible. Read Romans 1. Usually they try to weasel out of this by pointing out that Paul is not Jesus, as if 62 out of the 66 books are just nice suggestions.

edit: I got this wrong, Paul does not claim to be chief among the apostles, but instead that he isn't inferior to other apostles. I was thinking of 2 Corinthians 11:5.

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– Ahaus667 30 points 2 years ago +30 / -0

“Go forth and sin no more” was the punishment for being saved by Jesus from a stoning. The pseudo Christian arguments completely forget Jesus explicitly said lethal self defense and whipping heathens are morally allowed.

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– acoder 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

"Go forth and sin no more"

This is from a verse that is believed by many to be a forgery, since it only appears in earlier manuscripts, but not older ones. Many bibles have John 8 start at verse 12, for this reason, or otherwise have a very obvious note explaining this. You can research this by googling "Pericope adulterae".

The pseudo Christian arguments completely forget Jesus explicitly said lethal self defense

Do you mean when Jesus told his followers to take swords, and then condemned Peter when he cut off the ear of the slave of the high priest? "Live by the sword, die by the sword".

whipping heathens

Jesus has the authority to forgive sins. Does that mean that all Christians also have the authority to forgive sins? Just because Jesus did something, it doesn't mean that all Christians have that authority.

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– Ahaus667 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

This is from a verse that is believed by many to be a forgery, since it only appears in earlier manuscripts

Imagine the stupidity it takes to even state that it was a “forgery” because it appeared first…

Do you mean when Jesus told his followers to take swords, and then condemned Peter when he cut off the ear of the slave of the high priest? "Live by the sword, die by the sword".

You mean the difference between self defense and causing harm for no reason?

Jesus has the authority to forgive sins. Does that mean that all Christians also have the authority to forgive sins? Just because Jesus did something, it doesn't mean that all Christians have that authority.

That statement is a hilarious logical fallacy. Seriously, take a look in the mirror, it must be difficult for you.

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– acoder 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Imagine the stupidity it takes to even state that it was a “forgery” because it appeared first…

By "earlier manuscripts", I am referring to the date the manuscript was found, not the age of the manuscript itself.

Like I said, you can research this yourself. Go do that.

You mean the difference between self defense and causing harm for no reason?

One would think that trying to save Jesus from being turned over to his executioners would not be "causing harm for no reason", but Jesus apparently disagreed.

Name one Christian in the Bible who fought in self-defense. Go on.

That statement is a hilarious logical fallacy

How so? Do you have an argument or are you just chanting "logical fallacy" like it's a magic phrase that causes you to win the argument?

You're the one claiming that, because Jesus did something, all Christians have the authority to do that same thing. Do you stand by that or not?

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– SendTomBoys 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Can't tell if faggot mad that faggots aren't welcome or

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– acoder 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

If your starting argument is that part of the Bible is just wrong because of man-made error

What is considered to be "the bible"? What counts as "Scripture"? Does it include the book of Enoch? Maccabees? Does it include verses that are only present in younger manuscripts, but not more recently found older manuscripts?

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– Smith1980 29 points 2 years ago +29 / -0

They will say Jesus never mentioned homosexuality, but he did explicitly say marriage is between a man and a woman. Also he said he fulfilled the law. I’ll never understand with anyone justifying whatever sin they want to by they don’t just do their own thing instead of trying to twist themselves into knots trying to justify whatever they want

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0
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– PureAutism 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

They want others to accept what they're doing, but they don't want to actually justify what they're doing, so they shame you.

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– Piroko 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

the Bible is in fact longer than the Sermon on the Mount

Yes, there's also the Sermon on the Plain.

"foremost apostle" Paul

Paul wasn't an apostle.


I have no problem with the restoration of political Christendom, but Catholic lies are over the line.

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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You're right, I misremembered 2 Corinthians 11:5 when Paul declares himself in no way inferior to "super-apostles."

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– Piroko 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I don't give a damn about your Paulite books. So far as I'm concerned there are three synoptic gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke) and John and that's it.

But Paul.... he wasn't at the supper, he doesn't get the title. He was a fanboy at best, a tool of the anti-christ at worst. From my perspective you might as well be talking about Joseph Smith.

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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– The_Shadow_of_Intent 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Wow OK... I would rethink the use of curses when discussing divine matters.

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