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Shell permanently closes all of its hydrogen refuelling stations for cars in California (archive.ph)
posted 2 years ago by altmehere 2 years ago by altmehere +56 / -0
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– ApparentlyImAHeretic 16 points 2 years ago +16 / -0

the hilarious thing is that, if it wasn't for the push for EVs, this could have easily caught on. the supply chain was a bit more complicated than gasoline given that hydrogen has to be compressed, but the stability and energy density of hydrogen is very similar to gasoline.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 24 points 2 years ago +24 / -0

energy density of hydrogen is very similar to gasoline

Per unit mass, sure. Per unit volume, no, not at all, and it's not even close.

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– RoulerBleu 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

I am sure human ingenuity could have made a docking system for quick hydrogen tank filling or swaping for people's cars.

It's never going to happen because the goal was always to strip the plebs of mobility to force them to live in the pod city.

My nation swims in 100% renewable electricity yet electric battery vehicles are still uncommon. We'll run out of components to make the batteries before supplying the demand if we were to replace gas cars anyway, so the WEF plan is rather obvious.

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– GamingTheSystem-01 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Handling hydrogen requires special tanks, pumps, interfaces, and industrial processes which would all be subject to centralized regulation and control. It doesn't empower the plebs or whatever any more than gasoline or battery powered vehicles.

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– LauriThorne 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

So does gasoline.

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– Ricky_CIA 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

Yep, volumetric energy density of compressed gaseous hydrogen is laughable. Even cryogenic liquid hydrogen is not great and then you have all the crazy overhead of cryogenic storage.

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– Frux7 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

While in theory it has similar energy density, in practice it doesn’t because you have to build a heavy containment chamber for the pressurized gas. That said it’s still better than EVs and you can fuel up like gasoline instead of waiting around for +30 minutes.

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