What information from the medical industry should I even trust anymore? Does smoking actually cause cancer? Does drinking actually hurt my liver? Is diet & exercise actually effective at keeping me alive longer?
Surely the vax stuff isn't just a hyper specific hotbed of lying and deceit, it has to be all over the rest of their work. What is clean and worth my belief?
IDK if smoking causes cancer or not but it certainly impacts your lung capacity to a significant degree, I can tell you this from personal experience of rolling myself for 10 years getting winded from brisk walks to the bus.
That's not how this works. Institutions don't spring evil from whole cloth. Successful ones don't anyway.
Do you think that competent white dudes had reason to be bribed and lie when they ran the Institutions?
Of course not. This is a consequence of the leninisim present today. Incompetents are brought in, and under constant threat of being exposed will do the evil bidding of their masters.
Leftism CORRUPTS it never creates. We see this in everything they touch, from media franchises to government. The Great Men, passionate geniuses create greatness that is usurped by corruptions.
So yeah penicillin and antibiotics work, and we did go to the moon. The problem is all the people who did those things are now dead and replaced.
Trump believed the human body was like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depleted. So he didn’t work out. When he learned that John O’Donnell, one of his top casino executives, was training for an Ironman triathlon, he admonished him, “You are going to die young because of this.”
He has a good track record of sounding like an idiot and ending up being right.
Homework assignment: get in touch with your most local government health agency and ask to see the information they used to determine the childhood vaccine schedule.
Pass: you figure out who is actually responsible for this
Extra Credit: submit an actual study or dataset used by the government to justify a vaccine for recommendation.
We discovered during covid that not only were covid vaccines approved without proper testing. And clearly had side effects FAR worse than the disease itself.
But NONE of the other vaccines have been properly tested either.
“they have $100bn reasons to lie during medicine approval. But legal immunity for vaccines. Why do people expect they had a ‘come to jesus’ moment and are suddenly honest when they have MORE reason to lie?”
We ran into this during the covid pandemic. People have a very hard time accepting that the institutions they grew up trusting have been lying to them from the start about everything. Most people want to believe everything up until covid was trustworthy and good information and it was only covid where things went wrong. This is of course naive thinking but it's the thinking many people have because of how difficult it is to accept most people's entire worldview has been founded on lies.
BTW, there was a study I read that observed kids who weren't vaccinated and those who were vaccinated and found by 18yo, the non-vaccinated group had better overall health than the vaccinated group. A lot of the little medical issues people have are likely caused by vaccines, just like how many people have issues from the covid vaccines that aren't immediately attributable to the vaccines but we realize it likely is because we remember what people's health outcomes looked like prior to the covid vaccine. Does anyone remember here just how healthy people were prior to all the other vaccines?
All vaccines are harming people's health, not just the covid vaccine.
Wait until you hear how they test adjuvants*. Adjuvants are normally skipped from even university level courses on vaccines.
(* they only test the vaccine (with adjuvant) to a placebo (WITH ADJUVANT). So all tests show no damage from the adjuvant. Basically none of this poison was ever tested.)
Because you two are talking nonsense. There were a number of very effective vaccines developed before the 1980s that wiped out some pretty nasty diseases.
Just because they got all the low hanging fruit, and developed more and more unnecessary ones in pursuit of profit doesn't invalidate that.
Dogma for or against vaccines is dangerous. It's a technology, and like all technology it can be used well or used poorly, and one should educate themselves rather than blindly trust it to work.
Unfortunately, this isn't true at all. I know you'll probably just mock me -- but really, you should go and look at the actual data, not just the narrative, and you'll be absolutely shocked.
Not one vaccine has ever helped anyone ever. And again, that's based on the data, not the narrative.
Anyone who ever was going to think about doing it has already done so, and likely will not be shaken from that belief until a decade+ has passed and they can laugh about "those wild times."
And people who could be swayed were already done so as well long ago.
Not a single double blind study for any vaccine exists.
What information from the medical industry should I even trust anymore? Does smoking actually cause cancer? Does drinking actually hurt my liver? Is diet & exercise actually effective at keeping me alive longer?
Surely the vax stuff isn't just a hyper specific hotbed of lying and deceit, it has to be all over the rest of their work. What is clean and worth my belief?
IDK if smoking causes cancer or not but it certainly impacts your lung capacity to a significant degree, I can tell you this from personal experience of rolling myself for 10 years getting winded from brisk walks to the bus.
That's not how this works. Institutions don't spring evil from whole cloth. Successful ones don't anyway.
Do you think that competent white dudes had reason to be bribed and lie when they ran the Institutions?
Of course not. This is a consequence of the leninisim present today. Incompetents are brought in, and under constant threat of being exposed will do the evil bidding of their masters.
Leftism CORRUPTS it never creates. We see this in everything they touch, from media franchises to government. The Great Men, passionate geniuses create greatness that is usurped by corruptions.
So yeah penicillin and antibiotics work, and we did go to the moon. The problem is all the people who did those things are now dead and replaced.
Trump believed the human body was like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depleted. So he didn’t work out. When he learned that John O’Donnell, one of his top casino executives, was training for an Ironman triathlon, he admonished him, “You are going to die young because of this.”
He has a good track record of sounding like an idiot and ending up being right.
Homework assignment: get in touch with your most local government health agency and ask to see the information they used to determine the childhood vaccine schedule.
Pass: you figure out who is actually responsible for this
Extra Credit: submit an actual study or dataset used by the government to justify a vaccine for recommendation.
They've been pointing this out for years. Sooner or later the truth becomes inescapable.
Sadly there are still people who trust the "system", because... "only the recent vaccines are a problem, everything else before was fine!"
Sometimes people have to learn the long and slow way that they were wrong.
good shit, anyone got a link to the data?
fda :
https://www.fda.gov/media/159195/download
(see page 39 i believe)
table in question:
https://x.com/clarecraigpath/status/1537471674127421440
woman in video :
https://x.com/clarecraigpath/status/1537486724762304513
There is not a single vaccine any child needs. Avoid all vaccines.
I don’t know why you are being downvoted-
We discovered during covid that not only were covid vaccines approved without proper testing. And clearly had side effects FAR worse than the disease itself.
But NONE of the other vaccines have been properly tested either.
“they have $100bn reasons to lie during medicine approval. But legal immunity for vaccines. Why do people expect they had a ‘come to jesus’ moment and are suddenly honest when they have MORE reason to lie?”
We ran into this during the covid pandemic. People have a very hard time accepting that the institutions they grew up trusting have been lying to them from the start about everything. Most people want to believe everything up until covid was trustworthy and good information and it was only covid where things went wrong. This is of course naive thinking but it's the thinking many people have because of how difficult it is to accept most people's entire worldview has been founded on lies.
BTW, there was a study I read that observed kids who weren't vaccinated and those who were vaccinated and found by 18yo, the non-vaccinated group had better overall health than the vaccinated group. A lot of the little medical issues people have are likely caused by vaccines, just like how many people have issues from the covid vaccines that aren't immediately attributable to the vaccines but we realize it likely is because we remember what people's health outcomes looked like prior to the covid vaccine. Does anyone remember here just how healthy people were prior to all the other vaccines?
All vaccines are harming people's health, not just the covid vaccine.
Wait until you hear how they test adjuvants*. Adjuvants are normally skipped from even university level courses on vaccines.
(* they only test the vaccine (with adjuvant) to a placebo (WITH ADJUVANT). So all tests show no damage from the adjuvant. Basically none of this poison was ever tested.)
Because you two are talking nonsense. There were a number of very effective vaccines developed before the 1980s that wiped out some pretty nasty diseases.
Just because they got all the low hanging fruit, and developed more and more unnecessary ones in pursuit of profit doesn't invalidate that.
Dogma for or against vaccines is dangerous. It's a technology, and like all technology it can be used well or used poorly, and one should educate themselves rather than blindly trust it to work.
Unfortunately, this isn't true at all. I know you'll probably just mock me -- but really, you should go and look at the actual data, not just the narrative, and you'll be absolutely shocked.
Not one vaccine has ever helped anyone ever. And again, that's based on the data, not the narrative.
Anyone who ever was going to think about doing it has already done so, and likely will not be shaken from that belief until a decade+ has passed and they can laugh about "those wild times."
And people who could be swayed were already done so as well long ago.
I don't think anybody here plans on getting their kids jabbed
I've been wondering... Is it possible to use an old version of the Vaccine schedule?
In 1995 there were like 5 shots which seems reasonable. Now there are nearly 20 which is not.
I don't know, I just feel as though it might be prudent to pick and choose rather than dismissing or accepting wholesale.