The Canon is of its time, yes. But so are all the other works being written then that don't get lionized by white boomer men gatekeepers. Those were also "of that time".
Octavia Butler was exactly as much of her time as Frank Herbert. Who are all the authors who were writing books centering characters who weren't white men during the years Foundation was being written? I guarantee they exist.
The continuing, reinforced whiteness of our culture was never an accident. Who got published, who got promoted, who got awards: all of them had filters on the gate.
https://becausedragonage.tumblr.com/post/118611146227/makingfists-its-like-this-youre-fourteen-and
It’s like this…
You’re fourteen and you’re reading Larry Niven’s “The Protector” because it’s your father’s favorite book and you like your father and you think he has good taste and the creature on the cover of the book looks interesting and you want to know what it’s about. And in it the female character does something better than the male character - because she’s been doing it her whole life and he’s only just learned - and he gets mad that she’s better at it than him. And you don’t understand why he would be mad about that, because, logically, she’d be better at it than him. She’s done it more. And he’s got a picture of a woman painted on the inside of his spacesuit, like a pinup girl, and it bothers you.
But you’re fourteen and you don’t know how to put this into words.
And then you’re fifteen and you’re reading “Orphans of the Sky” because it’s by a famous sci-fi author and it’s about a lost generation ship and how cool is that?!? but the women on the ship aren’t given a name until they’re married and you spend more time wondering what people call those women up until their marriage than you do focusing on the rest of the story. Even though this tidbit of information has nothing to do with the plot line of the story and is only brought up once in passing.
But it’s a random thing to get worked up about in an otherwise all right book.
Then you’re sixteen and you read “Dune” because your brother gave it to you for Christmas and it’s one of those books you have to read to earn your geek card. You spend an entire afternoon arguing over who is the main character - Paul or Jessica. And the more you contend Jessica, the more he says Paul, and you can’t make him see how the real hero is her. And you love Chani cause she’s tough and good with a knife, but at the end of the day, her killing Paul’s challengers is just a way to degrade them because those weenies lost to a girl.
Then you’re seventeen and you don’t want to read “Stranger in a Strange Land” after the first seventy pages because something about it just leaves a bad taste in your mouth. All of this talk of water-brothers. You can’t even pin it down.
And then you’re eighteen and you’ve given up on classic sci-fi, but that doesn’t stop your brother or your father from trying to get you to read more. Even when you bring them the books and bring them the passages and show them how the authors didn’t treat women like people.
Your brother says, “Well, that was because of the time it was written in.”
You get all worked up because these men couldn’t imagine a world in which women were equal, in which women were empowered and intelligent and literate and capable.
You tell him - this, this is science fiction. This is all about imagining the world that could be and they couldn’t stand back long enough and dare to imagine how, not only technology would grow in time, but society would grow.
But he blows you off because he can’t understand how it feels to be fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen and desperately wanting to like the books your father likes, because your father has good taste, and being unable to, because most of those books tell you that you’re not a full person in ways that are too subtle to put into words. It’s all cognitive dissonance: a little like a song played a bit out of tempo - enough that you recognize it’s off, but not enough to pin down what exactly is wrong.
And then one day you’re twenty-two and studying sociology and some kind teacher finally gives you the words to explain all those little feelings that built and penned around inside of you for years.
It’s like the world clicking into place.
And that’s something your brother never had to struggle with.
-becausedragonage
This is an excellent post to keep in mind when you see another recent post criticizing the current trend of dystopian sci-fi and going on about how sci-fi used to be about hope and wonder.
No. It used to be about men. And now it’s not.
There will never be a world where women on average are equal at sports, fights, chess, videogames, etc, than men on average.
Feminists lied to you.
Get over it.
"Prehistoric womem were akshually better hunters!"
~Leftists in need of a helicopter ride.
Women shouldn't be reading Sci Fi. Sci Fi envisages the wild possibilities of science and tech. Feminist fiction would twist that into banal, narcissistic focus on wahmen's feelings. Women should stick to selfish, insipid and self insert romance novels. They cannot imagine worlds beyond their extremely narrow feminist doctrine.
Look at the books that win sci fi awards now and it’s pretty much what you describe
This 👏 Is 👏 What 👏 Diversity 👏 Looks 👏 Like 👏
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More like this is what hiring hacks who check a box looks like
"How would you feel if you lived in a universe dominated by the trade in spice?"
"But I don't live in a universe like that"
Therefore, few women in scifi, QED.
WTF is this babbling?
Go fight some dudes if you like Chani so much. Follow your hero. See how much you like feeling exhausted when a bigger taller person is up in your face. Write an essay about that.
There is a story about that, actually: The Garden of Eden. When women are empowered and intelligent and literate and capable, they conspire with serpents and corrupt the men around them.
The reason people don't spell it out explicitely in scifi is because that would be sophmorish; such a tale would be an exercise in writing class, not a full blown world.
I guarantee the male to female ratio of sci-fi readers is probably around 75/25. I’m so tired of young leftists crapping on classics and yet the best they can do is bastardize works that already exist. I’ve only read Octavia Butler’s short stories. I remember in the 90s Sci-Fi Channel (back when it catered to fans of sci-fi) had a show where they interviewed sci-fi authors and when Octavia Butler was interviewed she was asked about not seeing other black women writing sci-fi growing up and she said she didn’t need to because she liked sci-fi and wanted to read it.
The moron writing this attacks Stranger in a Strange Land and acts like we have never read books with female characters. The reason guys are less interested in female characters is because you’ve beaten us over the head and filled male spaces with crappy characters.
I’m pretty sure men make up the majority sci-fi audience since it’s been attacked so much by feminists.
This woman is a fucking idiot.
Trying to play the gender card in Dune, of all series? Fucking Dune!? The one series who's entire crux is about the conflict between man and women, how honest love and admiration can change the entire universe, and how an organization ruled by women can make the most powerful man in the known universe into a pathetic cuck who lives with the knowledge that his lone child is going to be whored out because a group of women say so!?
Fucking DUNE!?
Jesus fucking christ. Yeah, you couldn't win jack fuck all in that argument with your brother because you're clearly too retarded to actually comprehend what the fuck it is you're reading. Fuck's sake.
https://archive.ph/6Is2L
Archive to the link.
If you read SciFi--or anything--to escape your humdrum reality for a few hours a day, why in HELL would you want to read about someone like yourself, unless you're a fucking narcissist?
My friends comment.
you need to click the link to read the rest of the post.
I think capitalism is also to blame. Publishers were only going publish what they thought would sell, and when your consumer base is CIS white males, that's who they want the hero to be.
Yeah the horror of writing for cis White males who actually read that genre in significant numbers.
This is what drives me crazy. Thats who reads the majority of Sci-Fi l. Imagine if you took over a romance novel company and said “I wanna appeal to 14 year old boys”. See how long you would last.
Oh yea. What is a a popular harem anime?
What are some harem animes? I only heard the term this past thanksgiving when my niece didn’t want to watch Sword Art Online because she said it was a Harem anime
I'll make one up, and let's see if it's real, "My castle full of sisters."
A couple examples I know of would be Tenchi Muyo! and at least some of its assorted AU spinoffs, and Monster Musume.
What's his alternative?
Should the consumer base be something else?
Capitalism is to blame in that a genre of literature that contemplates wild advances on technology wouldn't make sense without it.
Because the majority that reads and writes it are white guys. I hate the term CIS. I don’t have tumblr but is there any pushback?
I haven't found any. https://archive.ph/6Is2L
Have the archive.
Oh bullshit. How many female writers of sci-fi do you see in the communist countries?
Here… I’ll wait.