There were two distinct schools of thought among proponents of gamergate:
this psychotic woke tyranny is largely isolated to academia, and these kids are in for a very rude awakening when they collide with the real world outside of their university hugboxes
this psychotic woke tyranny is already making its way into the halls of power and could unilaterally dominate our culture, our industries, and our governments very soon
Looking back on it now, most of the people in the first camp developed terminal TDS and eventually outed themselves as crypto leftists. They refused to acknowledge that their side had been completely taken over by Marxism, and now they spend their days fighting the imagined fascism of MAGA white nationalism.
TLDR: fuck you lying classical liberal/libertarian retards, we were right
This psychotic woke tyranny stuff actually emerged from the halls of power because we were already deeply subverted by the time the tranny shit rolled out in force. That's the one I believe.
Ironically, these debate teams were set to discuss the IMF in the final round. So woke retards leveraged an unrelated social issue in order to avoid discussing global finance. Kind of amazing.
Bureaucracy is too slow and stupid to create something like this. It's powerful but the way it works is mostly by reacting to and exploiting opportunities that arise. You can see this with covid for example - remember the first 2 months when the legacy media was calling it just the flu? And then saying not to wear masks because they don't work? They're powerful but slow as shit.
GG has, and always will suffer from the fact that a lot of the people in it were leftists who found themselves cast out, willing to do anything to get back within the loving confines of the herd. Just like a Soviet praising Comrade Stalin as he was led to the wall, or a member of Mao's government clutching his Little Red Book as he's beat to death by the Red Guards, what's happening to them is just a silly little mistake, and if the cool kids knew about it, everything would be cool, right?
The problem with that is all totalitarian governments spend massive amounts of time and effort making sure that their voice is the only one heard, and that everyone knows what the price of dissent and defection is. The average person might realize that they're being lied to and slowly starving to death, but everyone who leaves just disappears.
But I do agree with you in spirit, and I know people who defected from both countries. Hell, I know someone who defected on an embassy trip in Detroit in the 70s, because he realized that Detroit was the shittiest town in the US, and it was as nice as the average Soviet town.
The problem with that is all totalitarian governments spend massive amounts of time and effort making sure that their voice is the only one heard, and that everyone knows what the price of dissent and defection is. The average person might realize that they're being lied to and slowly starving to death, but everyone who leaves just disappears.
This comes to mind:
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
Even the right-wing people still on half-KiA tend to have a lot of problems though. They think the cultural stuff is far more divorced from politics than it is. For example, they might see something like black Little Mermaid as just being woke virtue signaling instead of seeing it as propaganda in service of physical demographic replacement of actual white people.
There was never a need for "eventually." GG was always openly and loudly calling itself a Liberal movement, with most people writing screed after rant about how they were the True Left and how the Woke were just perverting "good" ideas.
KIA1 tried to ban any T_D poster because they were that afraid of the fact that Trump people might be in their midst. Shit last time I was there they were fellating that Narwhaltz tranny's every single post and word.
If the Woke had gone a little slower and less obvious, a solid 70% of the GG supporters would have followed them to the end and still be right there marching with them.
"Classical liberalism" is divided between those with genuine interest in 17th-early19th century republican (the way Europeans use that word) tradition, and those with a misplaced sentimental attachment to mid-to-late 20th century center-left societal tendencies. I almost don't blame the latter for their desperate behaviors, being the largest politically homeless grouping in current era.
I utterly forgot about first kia pre-emptively banning t_d posters. That's irritating because that subreddit winds up with so many lost morons posting typical internet noise, separate form the confused leftists described in this thread. It wasn't about quality control (old t_d was basically a parody of ordinary reddit) but optics.
By "classical liberal" they unfortunately seemed to all mean "Bush-Era Democrat." What they saw as Pre-Woke Leftism, with all the same policies and just less "crazy." Not even the "colorblindness" of the late 20th century, as shown by their rush to prop up every minority (race, gender, sexuality) to their talking heads and leadership, but the on the cusp of Intersectionality wokeness about how someone being a "gay Jew who loves blacks" somehow makes them super worth supporting.
The T_D ban gets forgotten a lot, probably because it got dropped after heavy, instant backlash. Which I'll give the userbase credit for, at the time they still had some free speech principle to them over their Leftism. Though if you said the meanie things about women or blacks of gays, then all that went out the window.
Everybody who got really smug and said "oh they'll grow out of it when they start paying taxes" was disastrously wrong. The most violently radicalized leftists in history are in their mid 30s right now and grew up getting their news from Jon Stewart. The ones they're raising will be much worse.
this psychotic woke tyranny is largely isolated to academia, and these kids are in for a very rude awakening when they collide with the real world outside of their university hugboxes
Half KIA
this psychotic woke tyranny is already making its way into the halls of power and could unilaterally dominate our culture, our industries, and our governments very soon
KIA2
I consider anyone who espouses classical liberalism, i.e. "woke leftists aren't really liberals because dictionary definition from 1830" to be apologists for all of the crimes against humanity that liberals have performed. They're the non-woke version of self flagellating white liberals.
There were two distinct schools of thought among proponents of gamergate:
this psychotic woke tyranny is largely isolated to academia, and these kids are in for a very rude awakening when they collide with the real world outside of their university hugboxes
this psychotic woke tyranny is already making its way into the halls of power and could unilaterally dominate our culture, our industries, and our governments very soon
Looking back on it now, most of the people in the first camp developed terminal TDS and eventually outed themselves as crypto leftists. They refused to acknowledge that their side had been completely taken over by Marxism, and now they spend their days fighting the imagined fascism of MAGA white nationalism.
TLDR: fuck you lying classical liberal/libertarian retards, we were right
Ironically, these debate teams were set to discuss the IMF in the final round. So woke retards leveraged an unrelated social issue in order to avoid discussing global finance. Kind of amazing.
Woketards defending power by strategically deploying fake radicalism, imagine that.
Or a ploy to win the debate by default since at least 1 team conceded at least 1 point- I can't stomach the whole video.
Bureaucracy is too slow and stupid to create something like this. It's powerful but the way it works is mostly by reacting to and exploiting opportunities that arise. You can see this with covid for example - remember the first 2 months when the legacy media was calling it just the flu? And then saying not to wear masks because they don't work? They're powerful but slow as shit.
I remember Pelosi saying we needed to join the throng
for Chinese new yearin Chinatown, to "send a message."GG has, and always will suffer from the fact that a lot of the people in it were leftists who found themselves cast out, willing to do anything to get back within the loving confines of the herd. Just like a Soviet praising Comrade Stalin as he was led to the wall, or a member of Mao's government clutching his Little Red Book as he's beat to death by the Red Guards, what's happening to them is just a silly little mistake, and if the cool kids knew about it, everything would be cool, right?
Anyone with an ounce of cognitive capacity put two and two together and defected once confronted with sufficient information.
The problem with that is all totalitarian governments spend massive amounts of time and effort making sure that their voice is the only one heard, and that everyone knows what the price of dissent and defection is. The average person might realize that they're being lied to and slowly starving to death, but everyone who leaves just disappears.
But I do agree with you in spirit, and I know people who defected from both countries. Hell, I know someone who defected on an embassy trip in Detroit in the 70s, because he realized that Detroit was the shittiest town in the US, and it was as nice as the average Soviet town.
This comes to mind:
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956
Even the right-wing people still on half-KiA tend to have a lot of problems though. They think the cultural stuff is far more divorced from politics than it is. For example, they might see something like black Little Mermaid as just being woke virtue signaling instead of seeing it as propaganda in service of physical demographic replacement of actual white people.
There was never a need for "eventually." GG was always openly and loudly calling itself a Liberal movement, with most people writing screed after rant about how they were the True Left and how the Woke were just perverting "good" ideas.
KIA1 tried to ban any T_D poster because they were that afraid of the fact that Trump people might be in their midst. Shit last time I was there they were fellating that Narwhaltz tranny's every single post and word.
If the Woke had gone a little slower and less obvious, a solid 70% of the GG supporters would have followed them to the end and still be right there marching with them.
"Classical liberalism" is divided between those with genuine interest in 17th-early19th century republican (the way Europeans use that word) tradition, and those with a misplaced sentimental attachment to mid-to-late 20th century center-left societal tendencies. I almost don't blame the latter for their desperate behaviors, being the largest politically homeless grouping in current era.
I utterly forgot about first kia pre-emptively banning t_d posters. That's irritating because that subreddit winds up with so many lost morons posting typical internet noise, separate form the confused leftists described in this thread. It wasn't about quality control (old t_d was basically a parody of ordinary reddit) but optics.
By "classical liberal" they unfortunately seemed to all mean "Bush-Era Democrat." What they saw as Pre-Woke Leftism, with all the same policies and just less "crazy." Not even the "colorblindness" of the late 20th century, as shown by their rush to prop up every minority (race, gender, sexuality) to their talking heads and leadership, but the on the cusp of Intersectionality wokeness about how someone being a "gay Jew who loves blacks" somehow makes them super worth supporting.
The T_D ban gets forgotten a lot, probably because it got dropped after heavy, instant backlash. Which I'll give the userbase credit for, at the time they still had some free speech principle to them over their Leftism. Though if you said the meanie things about women or blacks of gays, then all that went out the window.
Everybody who got really smug and said "oh they'll grow out of it when they start paying taxes" was disastrously wrong. The most violently radicalized leftists in history are in their mid 30s right now and grew up getting their news from Jon Stewart. The ones they're raising will be much worse.
Half KIA
KIA2
I consider anyone who espouses classical liberalism, i.e. "woke leftists aren't really liberals because dictionary definition from 1830" to be apologists for all of the crimes against humanity that liberals have performed. They're the non-woke version of self flagellating white liberals.