Literally as I was typing these comments up, I got "in trouble" for a totally inane situation involving washing machines (in short, we're only "allowed" to wash our stuff" 3/7 days per week, during our 1 hour break, in a laundry that is a 500 outdoor walk away, in a wash-house full view of the people running the cult), and supply and demand...
That's just an example of how fucked up things are, and why I haven't been able to take time out to post/comment anything...
14 hour days. 1 and a half hour break total, during said day. Sometimes we don't get the full break. Sometimes we go longer than 14 hours. Sometimes we also have to "work" weekends. We have to pay to be here.
Shit is really fucked up. So everyone is stressed, and sad, and angry, and frustrated, all the time. But yet they blame each other (including me, of course), instead of the situation, and the people running the thing/pushing them around...
Yeah, this is what cults are like, folks. So hi, from the belly of the beast.
In the cult? No, because there aren't any Swedes here (yes, really. That is another thing that makes it weird. Literally no one involved, from "participants" to teachers, *is Swedish)...
But outside the cult? Oh fuck yeah. Literally every weekend.
Which is partly why I don't want my visa cancelled, and to get kicked out of the country, quite yet, lol.
I've met some pretty amazing girls. Some Swedish. Some not. But all outside the cult, really, lol...
I'm not sure staying in a cult is worth some weekend blondes, and I say it as quite the appreciator myself. Get out as soon as you can. Can't you just sign up for some Swedish (real) university? Generally they are fairly cheap in Europe, and sometimes even free.
14 hour days. 1 and a half hour break total, during said day. Sometimes we don't get the full break. Sometimes we go longer than 14 hours. Sometimes we also have to "work" weekends. We have to pay to be here.
Mostly manual labour (tending to the fields, cooking from raw ingredients we dug out of the ground/harvested, cleaning of buildings), with some weird indoctrination shit thrown in to cover the "course" content...
But it's largely hard labour. And endless "meetings". And struggle sessions three times weekly, which can range from "privilege" to the most warped interpretation of "consent" that I have ever personally experienced...
Starting manual labour at 7AM (you're not allowed to eat before the manual labour is done. Or have coffee), and then frequently finishing scheduled "trainings" after 10PM is...
Entirely unsustainable. And yet the people running this thing apparently only sleep 5-6 hours themselves (they don't do the manual labour, I should add), so they think that is "normal" and "good"...
Shit's fucked.
One of our "instructors" got lime disease, recently, so she was away for three weeks...
Because that's what happens in places like this, when you don't/can't take care of yourself and your own health...
Mostly manual labour (tending to the fields, cooking from raw ingredients we dug out of the ground/harvested, cleaning of buildings),
I'd almost think it's a Cistercian monastery.
And struggle sessions three times weekly, which can range from "privilege" to the most warped interpretation of "consent" that I have ever personally experienced...
I can't imagine how you have tolerated that. My big mouth would never have let me get away from that unscathed. Or do you think that they would be a physical threat to you?
Or, at the very least, that they would attempt to take my possessions away, with little recourse (no locked doors, no easy way to leave, remote area, no personal cars allowed, etc.).
Thus, each time I leave the site, I take anything that is remotely valuable (I wasn't stupid enough to bring actual valuables, but you get what I mean) with me, because I absolutely do not trust that it will be there when I get back...
They've already vaguely threatened me a couple of times, including for "washing on the wrong day", despite the fact that literally no one else was using the laundry, it was at a time of day when no one had a "booking", and it didn't interfere with anyone at all. Despite that, it warranted a threat...
Or the time I flatly refused to clean (vaccuum, dust and mop) an empty, already clean, unused room, that no one had been in for a week. Apparently it was about "the principle" and obeying orders. But I refused. That went down as well as you can imagine, haha...
So sort of like a monastery, yes. Or the military, but I paid to come here, so...
Essentially it was a "Black-led" cult that somehow infiltrated the Minneapolis whole foods movement during the 70s, and reached the peak of its power in the 80s. The article is largely written about one of the "escapees" from the place, who raised awareness of it...
Basically a cult of PMCs, where actions, behaviour, thoughts, lifestyles, relationships and work where all tightly controlled by the anonymous group leaders. It used many of the same tactics "my" current cult does, and it couched it in a similar veil of "self-improvement" and "leadership"...
The same struggle sessions. The same "uncovering biases" training. And it is literally the group which developed the so-called "privilege walk", which I was also made to do here, early on...
Also weirdly the same obsession with whole grain baking, so that's a weirdly consistent thing with all of these cults (I've visited three other "intentional communities", while here. They've all been cult-like, and they've all had "whole grain bakeries)...
However that one was in a city, and was definitely more... Nefarious and anonymous. This one is not (anonymous). I know who the leaders are. I know who my direct "supervisor", if you will, is. But it is also quite underground, and extremely dishonest about its intentions and on the ground realities...
No way am I staying here for as long as that woman stayed there, in order to write a book, though. I'll find other ways to expose them.
Literally as I was typing these comments up, I got "in trouble" for a totally inane situation involving washing machines (in short, we're only "allowed" to wash our stuff" 3/7 days per week, during our 1 hour break, in a laundry that is a 500 outdoor walk away, in a wash-house full view of the people running the cult), and supply and demand...
That's just an example of how fucked up things are, and why I haven't been able to take time out to post/comment anything...
14 hour days. 1 and a half hour break total, during said day. Sometimes we don't get the full break. Sometimes we go longer than 14 hours. Sometimes we also have to "work" weekends. We have to pay to be here.
Shit is really fucked up. So everyone is stressed, and sad, and angry, and frustrated, all the time. But yet they blame each other (including me, of course), instead of the situation, and the people running the thing/pushing them around...
Yeah, this is what cults are like, folks. So hi, from the belly of the beast.
Why haven't you left?
They already got to him.
Did you get to meet some hot Swedish blondes in the cult at least?
In the cult? No, because there aren't any Swedes here (yes, really. That is another thing that makes it weird. Literally no one involved, from "participants" to teachers, *is Swedish)...
But outside the cult? Oh fuck yeah. Literally every weekend.
Which is partly why I don't want my visa cancelled, and to get kicked out of the country, quite yet, lol.
I've met some pretty amazing girls. Some Swedish. Some not. But all outside the cult, really, lol...
I'm not sure staying in a cult is worth some weekend blondes, and I say it as quite the appreciator myself. Get out as soon as you can. Can't you just sign up for some Swedish (real) university? Generally they are fairly cheap in Europe, and sometimes even free.
What do you do in those 14 hours?
Mostly manual labour (tending to the fields, cooking from raw ingredients we dug out of the ground/harvested, cleaning of buildings), with some weird indoctrination shit thrown in to cover the "course" content...
But it's largely hard labour. And endless "meetings". And struggle sessions three times weekly, which can range from "privilege" to the most warped interpretation of "consent" that I have ever personally experienced...
Starting manual labour at 7AM (you're not allowed to eat before the manual labour is done. Or have coffee), and then frequently finishing scheduled "trainings" after 10PM is...
Entirely unsustainable. And yet the people running this thing apparently only sleep 5-6 hours themselves (they don't do the manual labour, I should add), so they think that is "normal" and "good"...
Shit's fucked.
One of our "instructors" got lime disease, recently, so she was away for three weeks...
Because that's what happens in places like this, when you don't/can't take care of yourself and your own health...
I'd almost think it's a Cistercian monastery.
I can't imagine how you have tolerated that. My big mouth would never have let me get away from that unscathed. Or do you think that they would be a physical threat to you?
On the latter question, very possibly yes...
Or, at the very least, that they would attempt to take my possessions away, with little recourse (no locked doors, no easy way to leave, remote area, no personal cars allowed, etc.).
Thus, each time I leave the site, I take anything that is remotely valuable (I wasn't stupid enough to bring actual valuables, but you get what I mean) with me, because I absolutely do not trust that it will be there when I get back...
They've already vaguely threatened me a couple of times, including for "washing on the wrong day", despite the fact that literally no one else was using the laundry, it was at a time of day when no one had a "booking", and it didn't interfere with anyone at all. Despite that, it warranted a threat...
Or the time I flatly refused to clean (vaccuum, dust and mop) an empty, already clean, unused room, that no one had been in for a week. Apparently it was about "the principle" and obeying orders. But I refused. That went down as well as you can imagine, haha...
So sort of like a monastery, yes. Or the military, but I paid to come here, so...
It's a mess.
Did you read the article, man? I'm re-reading it now, and it's pretty much all in there...
There's a disturbing amount of crossover, honestly...
As all have said - time to go...
I didn't... archives don't work for me, I have to open them in a different browser. And you said that it was 'uncannily similar'.
Oh ok. Here's the original link, if that helps: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/the-story-of-o-woke-labor-management
Essentially it was a "Black-led" cult that somehow infiltrated the Minneapolis whole foods movement during the 70s, and reached the peak of its power in the 80s. The article is largely written about one of the "escapees" from the place, who raised awareness of it...
Basically a cult of PMCs, where actions, behaviour, thoughts, lifestyles, relationships and work where all tightly controlled by the anonymous group leaders. It used many of the same tactics "my" current cult does, and it couched it in a similar veil of "self-improvement" and "leadership"...
The same struggle sessions. The same "uncovering biases" training. And it is literally the group which developed the so-called "privilege walk", which I was also made to do here, early on...
Also weirdly the same obsession with whole grain baking, so that's a weirdly consistent thing with all of these cults (I've visited three other "intentional communities", while here. They've all been cult-like, and they've all had "whole grain bakeries)...
However that one was in a city, and was definitely more... Nefarious and anonymous. This one is not (anonymous). I know who the leaders are. I know who my direct "supervisor", if you will, is. But it is also quite underground, and extremely dishonest about its intentions and on the ground realities...
No way am I staying here for as long as that woman stayed there, in order to write a book, though. I'll find other ways to expose them.