Or, at the very least, that they would attempt to take my possessions away, with little recourse (no locked doors, no easy way to leave, remote area, no personal cars allowed, etc.).
Thus, each time I leave the site, I take anything that is remotely valuable (I wasn't stupid enough to bring actual valuables, but you get what I mean) with me, because I absolutely do not trust that it will be there when I get back...
They've already vaguely threatened me a couple of times, including for "washing on the wrong day", despite the fact that literally no one else was using the laundry, it was at a time of day when no one had a "booking", and it didn't interfere with anyone at all. Despite that, it warranted a threat...
Or the time I flatly refused to clean (vaccuum, dust and mop) an empty, already clean, unused room, that no one had been in for a week. Apparently it was about "the principle" and obeying orders. But I refused. That went down as well as you can imagine, haha...
So sort of like a monastery, yes. Or the military, but I paid to come here, so...
That's a frightening suggestion. So it's a proper cult then.
Or, at the very least, that they would attempt to take my possessions away, with little recourse (no locked doors, no easy way to leave, remote area, no personal cars allowed, etc.).
I assume that if they start thieving things, they'll get themselves into more trouble. The strategy of a lot of malefactors is to appear as menacing as they possibly can, while never actually doing anything illegal. If you imagine that they'd kill you or steal your stuff, well, that's your problem.
Or the time I flatly refused to clean (vaccuum, dust and mop) an empty, already clean, unused room, that no one had been in for a week. Apparently it was about "the principle" and obeying orders. But I refused. That went down as well as you can imagine, haha...
The principle is that you have to lick the boot.
So sort of like a monastery, yes. Or the military, but I paid to come here, so...
Except that instead of providing a useful service and building character, it's just pure crazy. It's honestly hard to believe that this sort of thing is happening in our Europe. Perhaps the reason that there are very few Swedish people is because they recruit people who are not rooted in the society, and who thus are not as able to defend themselves in the context of that country.
I'd definitely contact the police about this once you're leaving.
That is absolutely what they do, and are doing. From what I can tell, there hasn't been any Swedish "participants" for some years, now. And almost no one in the entire "community", or at least those who we are allowed to speak to, is Swedish at all...
There's one older Swedish lady who lives here who comes along to our "morning singing" (yes really, it's a thing, and it's compulsory. We basically sing "spirit songs"), and this morning she tried to bring a moment of reflection for the two Swedes who were killed, last night...
I helped facilitate that for her, but the other participants laughed at her (like, "What does this crazy broad think she is doing?"), and then the organizers basically pushed her out of the room...
And then I was dragged aside for a struggle session with one of the organizers. For my "Lack of commitment to the group", I guess...
During that, they started actively threatening harm to me, lol.
So yeah, after all this, I've started organizing to leave this weekend, or early next week. I'm done. That was the final straw.
And as you say, once I'm out, I'm absolutely going to do that, as best I can, lol.
There's one older Swedish lady who lives here who comes along to our "morning singing" (yes really, it's a thing, and it's compulsory. We basically sing "spirit songs"),
It might actually be based on monastery practices...
I helped facilitate that for her, but the other participants laughed at her (like, "What does this crazy broad think she is doing?"), and then the organizers basically pushed her out of the room...
So the participants are also literally insane?
During that, they started actively threatening harm to me, lol.
You better have recorded that.
So yeah, after all this, I've started organizing to leave this weekend, or early next week. I'm done. That was the final straw.
Good. Staying in Sweden isn't so great that you should tolerate this.
On the latter question, very possibly yes...
Or, at the very least, that they would attempt to take my possessions away, with little recourse (no locked doors, no easy way to leave, remote area, no personal cars allowed, etc.).
Thus, each time I leave the site, I take anything that is remotely valuable (I wasn't stupid enough to bring actual valuables, but you get what I mean) with me, because I absolutely do not trust that it will be there when I get back...
They've already vaguely threatened me a couple of times, including for "washing on the wrong day", despite the fact that literally no one else was using the laundry, it was at a time of day when no one had a "booking", and it didn't interfere with anyone at all. Despite that, it warranted a threat...
Or the time I flatly refused to clean (vaccuum, dust and mop) an empty, already clean, unused room, that no one had been in for a week. Apparently it was about "the principle" and obeying orders. But I refused. That went down as well as you can imagine, haha...
So sort of like a monastery, yes. Or the military, but I paid to come here, so...
It's a mess.
That's a frightening suggestion. So it's a proper cult then.
I assume that if they start thieving things, they'll get themselves into more trouble. The strategy of a lot of malefactors is to appear as menacing as they possibly can, while never actually doing anything illegal. If you imagine that they'd kill you or steal your stuff, well, that's your problem.
The principle is that you have to lick the boot.
Except that instead of providing a useful service and building character, it's just pure crazy. It's honestly hard to believe that this sort of thing is happening in our Europe. Perhaps the reason that there are very few Swedish people is because they recruit people who are not rooted in the society, and who thus are not as able to defend themselves in the context of that country.
I'd definitely contact the police about this once you're leaving.
I think your last paragraph is key...
That is absolutely what they do, and are doing. From what I can tell, there hasn't been any Swedish "participants" for some years, now. And almost no one in the entire "community", or at least those who we are allowed to speak to, is Swedish at all...
There's one older Swedish lady who lives here who comes along to our "morning singing" (yes really, it's a thing, and it's compulsory. We basically sing "spirit songs"), and this morning she tried to bring a moment of reflection for the two Swedes who were killed, last night...
I helped facilitate that for her, but the other participants laughed at her (like, "What does this crazy broad think she is doing?"), and then the organizers basically pushed her out of the room...
And then I was dragged aside for a struggle session with one of the organizers. For my "Lack of commitment to the group", I guess...
During that, they started actively threatening harm to me, lol.
So yeah, after all this, I've started organizing to leave this weekend, or early next week. I'm done. That was the final straw.
And as you say, once I'm out, I'm absolutely going to do that, as best I can, lol.
It might actually be based on monastery practices...
So the participants are also literally insane?
You better have recorded that.
Good. Staying in Sweden isn't so great that you should tolerate this.