File this one under: no shit Sherlock. The """algorithm""" is an endless feedback loop of your own biases. Left unchecked, it will turn anyone into a nutjob, including our political class.
Yep, anyone who thinks the politicians themselves are immune to bad thinking or not susceptible to purposeful fuckery on social media is fooling themselves. Politicians can’t even get elected anymore without basically being a somewhat better dressed version of their side’s Twitter nuts, up to and including Tweeting in exactly the same staple, just about.
That's a highly subjective determination, and there are people who live in blue cities and are constantly surrounded by and work with annoying liberal NPCs still think Trump is the best candidate. Some of them aren't even the "still my president!" type you're likely thinking of.
A better example that makes your point (let's say this is your "etcetera") would be the people who think there's no possible way Trump legitimately lost 2020. I don't think he did lose, for reasons we've covered to exhaustion here, but Biden did get plenty of legitimate votes, and mail-in voting completely changes the composition of voters. If someone only surrounds themselves with patriotic Americans and lives on right-wing forums, it's hard for them to imagine that. They'll use statements like "nobody showed at Biden rallies!" as evidence. Another example would be the ones who say Trump has 70 million supporters ready to go when he announces "a storm is upon us." It takes a lot of willful ignoring of alternate points-of-view to get that far down the rabbit hole, unless you've put yourself in a bubble where contradictory points are never taken seriously. Another example from the left would be all those who hate Kyle Rittenhouse for killing black men at a peaceful protest. Basically if it seems like two people would have to live in alternate realities to have such wildly different takes on a subject, at least one of them is probably in a political bubble.
My etc covers the people who think fraud was why he lost, the idiots who blame the jews for everything, theimp who can't get over his irrational hatred of women (and he'll probably come out as a tranny sometime)...
I can keep going, but there's entirely too many groups to mention here.
Yeah, the notion that five years of sustained industrial grade propaganda couldn't sway the populace to vote against a candidate...I was willing to concede the loss as the right having been outplayed on the propaganda front. But then they weren't willing to bank on that and decided to rig shit on top of their psychological warfare.
They have actually done studies on this that show it's a one-way street. Leftists, especially online, can pretty much have the privilege of existing in a echo chamber.
Think about every social platform you can consider. Unless the forum in question is about topics that are vibrantly right-wing in question, it defaults to leftist spewing their opinions without getting called out on them every single time. Whereas if you're right-leaning, you just got to grin and bear it - cause getting into a debate will just get you swarmed.
The idea is that any place that isn't explicitly right wing will eventually become Left. It doesn't mean that those explicit right wing places aren't capable of becoming the same echo chamber, mind virus filled places as a Leftist one. Arguably they are more susceptible to it, because they literally cannot leave as there are vanishingly few places they can even be openly right wing.
Anyone who had a slightly unpopular on T_D can vouch for how little different they were from basic subs in terms of all the same echo, dogpile etc. problems.
File this one under: no shit Sherlock. The """algorithm""" is an endless feedback loop of your own biases. Left unchecked, it will turn anyone into a nutjob, including our political class.
Yep, anyone who thinks the politicians themselves are immune to bad thinking or not susceptible to purposeful fuckery on social media is fooling themselves. Politicians can’t even get elected anymore without basically being a somewhat better dressed version of their side’s Twitter nuts, up to and including Tweeting in exactly the same staple, just about.
THAT explains a lot
Leftists only exist in their bubbles, and don't bother interacting with anyone who isn't.
That's why they have the purity spiral.
I think we should be wary of assuming this is only a pitfall our opponents are subject to.
Plenty of right wingers do it too. It's how you get the idiots still going on about trump being the best candidate, etc.
But leftists by nature are more likely to be in their bubbles and screech about muh racism as a group.
That's a highly subjective determination, and there are people who live in blue cities and are constantly surrounded by and work with annoying liberal NPCs still think Trump is the best candidate. Some of them aren't even the "still my president!" type you're likely thinking of.
A better example that makes your point (let's say this is your "etcetera") would be the people who think there's no possible way Trump legitimately lost 2020. I don't think he did lose, for reasons we've covered to exhaustion here, but Biden did get plenty of legitimate votes, and mail-in voting completely changes the composition of voters. If someone only surrounds themselves with patriotic Americans and lives on right-wing forums, it's hard for them to imagine that. They'll use statements like "nobody showed at Biden rallies!" as evidence. Another example would be the ones who say Trump has 70 million supporters ready to go when he announces "a storm is upon us." It takes a lot of willful ignoring of alternate points-of-view to get that far down the rabbit hole, unless you've put yourself in a bubble where contradictory points are never taken seriously. Another example from the left would be all those who hate Kyle Rittenhouse for killing black men at a peaceful protest. Basically if it seems like two people would have to live in alternate realities to have such wildly different takes on a subject, at least one of them is probably in a political bubble.
My etc covers the people who think fraud was why he lost, the idiots who blame the jews for everything, theimp who can't get over his irrational hatred of women (and he'll probably come out as a tranny sometime)...
I can keep going, but there's entirely too many groups to mention here.
Yeah, the notion that five years of sustained industrial grade propaganda couldn't sway the populace to vote against a candidate...I was willing to concede the loss as the right having been outplayed on the propaganda front. But then they weren't willing to bank on that and decided to rig shit on top of their psychological warfare.
They have actually done studies on this that show it's a one-way street. Leftists, especially online, can pretty much have the privilege of existing in a echo chamber.
Think about every social platform you can consider. Unless the forum in question is about topics that are vibrantly right-wing in question, it defaults to leftist spewing their opinions without getting called out on them every single time. Whereas if you're right-leaning, you just got to grin and bear it - cause getting into a debate will just get you swarmed.
The idea is that any place that isn't explicitly right wing will eventually become Left. It doesn't mean that those explicit right wing places aren't capable of becoming the same echo chamber, mind virus filled places as a Leftist one. Arguably they are more susceptible to it, because they literally cannot leave as there are vanishingly few places they can even be openly right wing.
Anyone who had a slightly unpopular on T_D can vouch for how little different they were from basic subs in terms of all the same echo, dogpile etc. problems.