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Edmonton Heritage Festival bans Russian pavilion (no ties to Putin gov) because of violent threats from Ukrainians (archive.is)
posted 2 years ago by YesMovement 2 years ago by YesMovement +56 / -0
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– Kienan 20 points 2 years ago +20 / -0

Wow, one of those related stories is a doozy too!

Haven't read the article, but the headline is hilarious:

How The Lord of the Rings became a symbol for Italy's far right

For Italy’s neo-fascist ruling party, J.R.R. Tolkien’s fantasy epic is a fitting symbol of their beliefs

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– AntonioOfVenice 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

Meloni has been a huge disappointment, letting in immigrants and acting against the wishes of the vast majority of the Italian population by fueling the NATO proxy war in Ukraine. (But every European politician is going to be a disappointment. The entire system is aimed at ensuring that ordinary people have no say in government.)

And still they're smearing her. Or rather, it seems the article is from February, because since she returned to obedience, the media has been rather kind to her.

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– Kienan 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Meloni has been a huge disappointment

It really is very discouraging, how this keeps happening. Seems like even when you do manage to get a populist (I'm not even putting populist in quotes, as I'll give many of these people the benefit of the doubt and assume they are actually trying to represent the people) in, they can't stand up to their respective deep states. The system is seemingly too corrupt to make any large scale change from the inside, at the moment.

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

They were smearing her 24/7, so yeah, they did think she was going to be disobedient.

European youth unemployment is a chronic problem, and it's got nothing to do with "WOMAN BAD".

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

No demonstration, just assertions. As usual. I guess Italy is yet another country you know all about despite never visiting, like South Korea and Argentina.

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– deleted 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I've been there over 20 times in my life, have family there and...no, I'm not doxxing myself just because you're retarded.

Oh right, now I remember.

It's well known that Meloni was part of the Aspen Institute.

Yes, I checked. Doesn't say much though, except in a mind that sees a conspiracy in literally everything. We all know why you have a problem with her, and it's got nothing to do with any Aspen Institute.

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... continue reading thread?
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– deleted 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0
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– Kienan 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Done. I didn't want to post stuff I hadn't read, and I'm heading off to work, but I went ahead and threw it up as its own post.

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– YesMovement [S] 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

Lorne Gunter: Russian-Canadians should not be denied the chance to celebrate their culture https://archive.is/n4H9a

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– AntonioOfVenice 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Ukrainian fascists are the new Muslims: they get whatever they want through intimidation of the population and the complicity of the treasonous Western politicians.

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– Oppressinator 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Edmonton really is Canada's Texas.

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– Benevolentdictator 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

It's Snow Austin.

Every single seat in the city went commie orange in the recent provincial election that the "Conservatives" won.

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– Oppressinator 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Rest of Alberta still Texas?

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– Benevolentdictator 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

For the most part rurally, yeah.

Calgary, the other major city and the hub of most of the oil & gas industries is about 50/50 pozzed but is run by a dictatorial commie mayor and their police force went full jackboots during COVID vs anything remotely freedom related.

Anything outside the two cities though is the closest thing in Canada to being based, very much anti-Trudeau, anti-Quebec and forms a large part of the base for trucker/freedom support.

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– YesMovement [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

"Snow Austin" is a great name, FYI to the outsiders we normally just call it Redmonton (red is the liberal colour up here). It's the provincial capital so it's full of gov bureaucrats.

Last election the "Conservatives" got only 1 seat there.

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– dekachin 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Oh those violent Ukrainians /roll

too bad there is 0 evidence in the article given for any "violent threats from Ukrainians"

poor Russians, they just can't catch a break, can they?

just minding their own business, slav squatting, then BAM - NATO expansion & suddenly they're at war

¯\(ツ)/¯

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– Kienan 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

Organizers of next month's Edmonton Heritage Festival have decided there will be no Russian pavilion this year, citing safety concerns, threats and objections from the city's Ukrainian community.

"Despite our confidence in our ability to put on a safe festival, we recognize that if the Russian pavilion were to participate in the festival this year there is a real potential for incidents and potential safety risk."

The very people banning the Russians are saying it's because of threats and concerns from the Ukrainians. Evidence? No. But why would they ban the Russians while blaming the Ukrainians?

Or is this more diabolical, Machiavellian Russian 4D chess?

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– censorthisss 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

just minding their own business, slav squatting, then BAM - NATO expansion & suddenly they're at war

Pretty decent summary, although you're missing some Ukraine specific stuff that further provoked Russia.

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– YesMovement [S] 15 points 2 years ago +15 / -0

I hope you're not accusing the Churchill of our time - the glorious, super democratic and very peaceful - Volodymyr Zelenskyy of ever provoking Russia.

It's not like he would ever, say, promote pre-emptive nuclear strikes against them or anything like that...

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Zelensky is the archetype of "you either die the hero or live long enough to become the villain". He himself was accused by his opponent of being a Putin puppet, because he ran on a peace platform. Then he was threatened by the Nazis after he tried to make peace in the Donbas, and threw in his lot with them.

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– deleted 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

too bad there is 0 evidence in the article given for any "violent threats from Ukrainians"

The folks who quote Eichmann in saying that they should kill Russian children, and whose doctors say that Russian POWs should be castrated, dindu nuffin.

poor Russians, they just can't catch a break, can they?

I think they've been quite patient. They've put up with a lot.

  • the US looting the country and destroying it in the 1990s, even demanding repayment of the old tsarist debts
  • the US breaking promises to move NATO not one inch to the east - while they voluntarily withdrew from East Germany and the Warsaw Pact.
  • the US usurping the entire Warsaw Pact
  • the US moving up to its borders with even more NATO expansion into constituent republics of the USSR
  • the US staging a coup in Ukraine and bringing to power a violently anti-Russian government
  • the US sabotaging the Minsk accords and sending lethal weapons to, in the words of Adam Schiff, "fight Russia over there so we don't fight them over here".

If anything, they are too soft. Putin, for example, has not yet handed captured Stingers to actors who would do unto the West what the West has tried to do to Russia. Imagine two or three passenger jets being downed every week. I'm surprised that Putin is being so nice, and I'm very thankful that he's not trying to get as many Western subjects killed as the West is trying to do with Russians.

just minding their own business

Yup, taking possession of lands they've owned for 200 years is the literal definition of 'their own business'. That you have an irrational Cold Warrior hatred of Russia even after they dumped communism is on you.

On the other hand, the US turning Yugoslavia, Libya and Iraq into Chicago, while now doing the same in Ukraine, is the definition of not minding your own business, but striding the world like a Colossus and crushing one country after the other.

NATO expansion & suddenly they're at war

Yup, 8 years of shelling of the Donbas. Shockingly, you were not angry about that like you now are about Russian shelling of other parts of Little Russia, because CNN didn't tell you to be mad about it.

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– TriangleGang 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

demanding repayment of the old tsarist debts

This intrigues me. I know Germany just finished paying off its World War I reparations a few years ago.

I remember thinking it was odd that they were being held to a debt that was partially responsible for World War II when we spent millions of dollars rebuilding their country as part of the Marshall plan. But that debt was to France, and they're assholes, so it makes sense that they wouldn't forgive it.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

This intrigues me. I know Germany just finished paying off its World War I reparations a few years ago.

Really? I thought that they were effectively canceled in the early 1930s. It's pretty crazy if they were resurrected after World War II.

I remember thinking it was odd that they were being held to a debt that was partially responsible for World War II when we spent millions of dollars rebuilding their country as part of the Marshall plan. But that debt was to France, and they're assholes, so it makes sense that they wouldn't forgive it.

While there's something to be said for treating a defeated power leniently, even when it has caused untold destruction, it should not be shocking that France did not go easy on Germany. After all, Germany started a war of aggression against France even though it had already occupied Alsace and Lorraine in an earlier war (which was a war of aggression started by France) which killed 1 million young French men and devastated the most industrialized and productive areas of France.

We may let hindsight color our bias if we label a demand for reparation as 'being assholes'.

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– TriangleGang 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

France holding a grudge in 1920 or 1950 is one thing, but from the 1970's and on it was just being petty- especially when they were counting on Germany to be the frontlines in the anticipated war with the USSR.

The Federal Republic of Germany was three governments removed from the officials that signed the Versailles treaty; the debt was theirs only to the same extent that modern Russia owes payment of Czar Nicholas's bills.

Still, it took decades for Germany to pay off the rest of its reparations debt. At the London Conference, West Germany argued it shouldn’t be responsible for all of the debt the old Germany had incurred during World War I, and the parties agreed that part of its back interest wouldn’t become due until Germany reunified. Once that happened, Germany slowly chipped away at the last bit of debt. It made its last debt payment on October 3, 2010—the 20th anniversary of German reunification

https://www.history.com/news/germany-world-war-i-debt-treaty-versailles

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

France holding a grudge in 1920 or 1950 is one thing, but from the 1970's and on it was just being petty- especially when they were counting on Germany to be the frontlines in the anticipated war with the USSR.

I mean, Germany didn't have much of a choice, did it? Anyway, you want to hear something funnier? France supported Argentina in the Falklands War.

https://www.history.com/news/germany-world-war-i-debt-treaty-versailles

Rather strange. It seems that the reparations were greatly reduced and the timetable was extended in order to make it more manageable. Anyway, seems like it ultimately did not amount to more than a token payment. $500 billion in today's money is rather more.

I'll have to look into this, it's an interesting topic.

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– YesMovement [S] 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Yes, if there's one thing the CBC is known for it's their love of Putin and their opposition of Ukraine...

https://thepostmillennial.com/cbc-suggests-russian-actors-behind

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– Slav4U 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Pan-Slavism must return. The Slavic world must ultimately unite if they are to survive.

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– DomitiusOfMassilia [M] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Post Reported for: Rule 12 - Falsehoods

This appears to be a bit embellished. Who made the threats was not described.

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