I haven't seen a black american hired in tech in a decade. The last black american I saw in tech, they hired an indian manager, and the black guy was the first guy he fired.
Since then the only black guy I saw hired turned out to be from a suburb in africa.
My experience is the beneficiaries are people with well off parents from other countries.
Or white women.
I'm sure there's studies. But logic dictates that nobody benefits, especially long term. Affirmative action and quotas are, inherently, a race to the bottom. And those that are supposed to 'benefit' will be seen as not adequate for whatever position they are in (even when they didn't get there through AA)
Sure...for the moment, I'm trying to stick to 1 topic personally.
I'm sure affirmative action / diversity screws over poor white people.
Does it even help poor black people from the US?
Their claim is basically "racism is ok because it helps groups with a history of oppression" but that doesn't even seem to be true.
How can it. There's two basic possibilities
You are put in a position that you are not qualified for.
You are qualified for the position but everyone thinks, you aren't
Either of these possibilities leads to the realization that you needn't even try to do your best. And when you stop trying doing your best, the only way is down. For you, for your children, for your community.
Just look at black people in america. There's never been so many programs to 'help' black youth to succeed, yet they are worse off in every metric that actually counts.
The few that aren't worse off, are considered white by their peers and the president of the United States.
To put it bluntly:
All of these programs are centered around the idea that you can spend your way out of this problem -- but its impossible.
I saw some bullshit article recently where increased welfare benefits in California found that the benefit to kids was like $48 for every $1 spent.
Instead of tearing apart their methodology (which I don't care about) -- I just wonder what the benefit of having two supportive parents and a supportive community around you is. Could you even put a number on it? I am sure it's magnitudes higher than 48:1, especially because it doesn't require any monetary spending whatsoever.
But that requires either side to address the root cause: a rotten fucking culture.
I'd say there's a lot more "RNG" in the chances than an Xcom combat roll. It might, occasionally, give non-incompetents a leg up, but the way it's been applied in the last 20 years has been nothing but overboard and wasteful.
Another thing to consider too is how it tries to sidestep and ignore the bigger issues that keep getting shoved under the rug or made worse through partisan (usually left leaning) games, namely, the state of public education in the US for the last 30+ years.
And I'm not just talking about the woketastic nonsense, but the absurdly bad strategies that have been put into effect to try to improve things, that only manage to make things even worse. IE, "No Child Left Behind", the endless cash flow to universities and colleges that seem to focus on everything except providing a useful and usable education, etc.
And they'll blame 'racism' for their failure, which ironically is correct but not in the way they mean it.
None of this is ever done for the benefit of the people they use as their mascots and in order to legitimize their rule. Blacks are victims of the scumbag elites just like everyone else is.
One of my high school friends actually recently graduated from Harvard, and well, that tuition thing is half true.
All the children of celebrities, politicians, other famous people, etc, their parents have to pay that tuition, all the other students are generally on some form of scholarship, such as my friend who’s the son of black immigrants and graduated saludictorian at my high school.
The best hope for most of these people is the "Gentleman C." The idea that if you got there they'll keep you around and just give you a C and shuffle you through as not to hurt their graduation rates.
Exactly...there's other stuff one would write pages on as well, but is black guy mark from the hood or white guy matt from trailer actually making it through harvard?
Seems like people making it through are going to be well off black americans who get in either way, or black people with well off parents from other countries.
Even if they pass, they got into all this debt which works out for, uh, the same people pushing for them to get in.