Republican primary voters most popular issues: This is the way
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No, we have lots of details on the main people charged in it. There were only a small number of them, but they were genuine Trump supporters.
Calling it a false flag is simply wrong. To be a false flag, the J6ers would have had to have been opposed to Trump. They were not.
The few incidents where Feds were suspected in the crowd have eventually been exposed & turned out to be false. There were a few BLM types & libs in the crowd, but they weren't the reason why the J6ers went in.
Stop being delusional & accept the truth. Obey reality. Stop thinking like a tranny.
Now, by contrast, we have evidence that the "Patriot Front" is actually comprised of feds thanks to the Proud Boys kicking their ass & unmasking several of them.
To be clear: you believe a rag tag bunch of unarmed yokels took over and legitimately threatened one of the most secure locations in the world without the malicious “permission” of those in charge?
And at this point you’re basically calling a Benghazi and saying “what difference does it make?”. Stolen elections and engineered false flags are so 2-3 years ago! We need to abandon all of the issues that our opponents want us to abandon and turn our attention to the next (inevitably stolen) election.
Jesus Christ you suck. No wonder all we do is lose.
He believes the proud boys unmasked the fed bois and j6 was another holohoax.
The right will continue to lose when this is the predominant position they take politically. 2 steps behind the vanguard progressives in the destruction of our people.
you idiots actually complain when I say shit you ought to agree with.
you're just little midgets bouncing off each other in your angry little echo chamber desperate for some enemy to rail against.
"oh look, there is a right winger with a brain that works, let's all gang up on him!"
LOL dude, the libs broke you like Trump broke the libs. sad.
You truly grace us with your patience and tolerance, o wise one.
Ur mad
Mostly we are all frustrated
But they had fistfuls of zip ties! Zip ties! They could have conquered dozens of countries with them.
There is no way to be sure, but like you, I believe it was at least somewhat intentional. It is not unreasonable to hold that it is incompetence though.
How does it benefit you, or anyone, to complain about an election 3 years ago? Advocate for election security. That will set off the bad actors as well, without playing poorly with middle-of-the-road people.
We don't lose because there are some people who are in the right place, but who have slightly different nuances here and there. We lose because the people in charge, whatever their superficial color, are all of the same tribe, and I don't mean da Jooz.
And yeah, yeah, I know, me bad as well.
Kind of sounds like "advocate for border security" and we all know that get results, hmmm?
Generally when you are trying to pass stricter guidelines on anything you need a casus belli, so to speak. You can't just say "hey this system works fine but I think we need photo ID and paper ballots now just because"
Republicans have said that for years, and nearly everyone supports photo ID.
Here in Europe, they introduced photo ID without even campaigning on it, for God knows what reason, as our 'elections' are even more meaningless than American ones.
They're all liberal elites, & that includes most of the Republican donor class as well.
DeSantis is actually fighting against them while Trump is sucking up to them.
You know who the elites feel threatened by, by who the lib media focuses their attacks on.
No, but they did commit crimes by violently attacking cops & in some cases damaging property.
They deserve prison for that.
The Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes was grossly over-sentenced to 18 years in prison when he didn't even go into the Capitol & didn't fight cops. He was singled out to be made an example of because his existence scares liberals, not because he committed crimes.
Trump should have blanket pardoned every J6er who didn't engage in violence, but he was a coward trying to save his own ass.
Nope, and that makes no sense.
Trump lost. There was no proof of large scale election fraud. The Kraken was never released. It was all a pack of lies.
Which all turned out to be bullshit, although they seem to have been ramping up now - not in 2020 - but now they seem to be starting to manifest into reality. Perhaps because the Feds got so many "good" ideas from you lot they decided to actually start to do what you've been accusing them of.
Who is doing that? Certainly not me.
If DeSantis is the candidate, we will win & it will be the libs screeching that it was stolen as a cope.
I'd rather be the one winning than the one coping. You'd rather lose & cope.
Jesus Christ you suck. No wonder all we do is lose.
So how far does that boot fit down your throat?
Are we now defending attacking cops?
The property damage was so minimal that I don't support jailing people over it.
But let's not go overboard here.
idiot replies like this = block
every single mail-in ballot is fraudulent.
Ray Epps remains completely free, despite overwhelming evidence of organizing and fomenting a riot. He is even defended routinely by those pushing that J6 was this extreme attack on democracy and that all those responsible belong in bars....despite him literally fomenting and organizing the worst aspects of it.
The pipe bomb threat on J6 is increasingly proving to be an absolute hoax, as a it has been proven that the "pipe bombs" were completely inoperable.
Plenty of the actually violent individuals on J6 remain "unknown," and it seems as if they are not actually being looked for, while nonviolent people are ruthlessly attacked and persecuted.
The police actions taken during J6 were unusual, with the execution of Ashly Babbit (and extreme amounts of defending for that officers extremely malicious and terrible actions), and the deployment of flashbangs straight into a peaceful crowd (even lighting an individual on fire), without even going into the fact that the police waved the people into the building in the first place.
I agree it's strange that Ray Epps wasn't charged, but that doesn't mean he's a Fed.
True & we always knew this was bullshit.
He should have been fired & charged but libs don't punish people who kill Republicans. Reverse the parties & have it be a white cop shooting an unarmed black woman & you'd have "Saint Floyd" riots & a Chauvin sequel.
"Fed" doesn't exclusively mean an employed law enforcement officer. It also applies to people contracted or paid under the table by feds. You'd have to be an idiot to believe Epps is not a fed.
That's a bald faced lie.
The genuine Trump supporters are guilty of what? Putting their feet on Pelosi's desk?
Ray Epps has been proven to be a God-fearing patriot not-fed?
Hard to believe that you went from the above comment, which was exactly on the money, to this.
There is no proof positive that Ray Epps was a fed, but is it not highly likely? You cannot say that it 'turned out to be false'.
Some of the people here are straitjacket-tier crazy people.
I read some stuff investigating Ray Epps & it seemed clear enough to me that he wasn't a fed. It's not like the FBI is putting sleeper agents in the US population. There is a reason everyone says they "glow in the dark". The FBI is actually very bad at hiding itself.
Example: the "Patriot Front", which is so laughably obvious & recently got exposed.
But there's a ton of stuff that makes no sense. Why was he never arrested? Why is the NYT and Crying Adam Kinzinger defending him?
The feds claim that he only called on others to enter the Capitol, and that he never did so himself. Isn't that exactly the kind of behavior you would expect from an agent provocateur?
I would explain most of it by libs reflexively opposing anything Republicans attack out of partisanship. So since the Right went after this guy hard, the Left starts defending him.
The Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes basically did the exact same thing but got 18 years in prison.
I do think Congress should call whoever makes the charging decisions for 1/6ers & ask why Ray Epps was not charged. Congress can subpoena records as to whether Ray Epps was ever in contact with the Feds & with Republican control of the House there is no reason why they wouldn't do so.
I support getting to the bottom of this.
Personally though I see it as a dead end & my focus is 100x more on the Biden China bribery scandal we have unfolding right now. Biden ought to be impeached & sent to prison over this & what Hunter was saying to the ChiComs on WhatsApp.
BTW here is a short special 60 minutes did on Epps which I know everyone in here except maybe you would be like fAkE nEwS because they won't accept facts from anyone to the left of Tucker, but I found it to be convincing & compelling enough:
https://youtu.be/QHEEGxQKg20