Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - Gamergate Failed [TW: no Sargon]
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Stupid. When GamerGate started we didn't even know what was happening, we thought the ethical black hole of the gaming media was just personal corruption. Little did we know that it was just one tentacle of an ideological cancer that had already infested most institutions of the Western world. People had no idea what "woke" even was, nor did it even occur to anyone at that time that Progressive ideology was driving it.
Today, much of the country (in multiple countries) knows about this cancer and what it's about.
IMO, far into the future, GamerGate will be written of as the point where people began to fight back.
Or maybe we died and went to hell in 2014. Because things have truly gone off the rails since then.
If we win. If not, we were neo-Nazi, white supremacists who were mad at "girls in their games" and were heroically defeated by courageous people in the media.
Very true, but I remember a time around 2015ish where it seemed they had won - they were getting away with everything they were doing and had managed to silence anyone speaking out about it. Compare that to now and they're doing worse things but at least there's public awareness and pushback has begun.
I do remember that in late 2014 and early 2015, everyone was declaring that "Gamergate won" in order to put it behind themselves, or maybe to make themselves feel good.
dekachin has told me not to voice my opinions on this, because it's 'demoralizing', but I fear that the pushback is too little, too late. They're already in control of nearly all institutions. The public opposes them but is powerless.
Still, I join you in hoping for the best.
Sometimes I think this too, but then I'm reminded of previous times when things looked bleak and then suddenly and unpredictably everything turned around. It's partly because we're on the forefront of the wave moving through this sewer of a timeline, and by the time we realise something is happening and raise the alarm, it takes 18 months at least for the normies to catch on.
For decades the Rainbow-Marxists were able to infiltrate the institutions because they could do it away from the spotlight. Now the spotlight is on them and what we see is their throes of anger. I don't know what will happen in the short term but in the long term, the worst possible outcome is they fail and civilisation falls apart.
At this point we either vote people in who will initiate a self coup against the globalist corruption so we can subjugate them and the regressive left to a mass tribunal, or we overthrow the government and kill them all as a final solution to the corruption.
Not a failure just because it wasn't a total victory.
What gamergate did was wake up a LOT of normies to the fact that the conspiracy they always suspected is real. There is behind the scenes collusion across entire industries and that collusion is for the express purpose of forwarding the gay commie agenda.
Those awakened individuals were almost entirely overlapping with the veterans of the 2016 meme war that pushed Trump into the presidency. Imagine how much worse things would be if we were 7 years into a Hillary presidency?
That stumbling block in their plans gave us a bit of time to spread information and entrench resistance. As the captured institutions cracked down that created space for alt news sources and media catering to dissidents. These guys only have their platform because the initial gamergate backlash created that butterfly effect.
The Babylon Bee was another one of these alt sites and its banning off Twitter may just have been what finally flipped Elon into buying the bird app.
Not that I'm particularly hopeful but if there is any saving Western Civilization, Elon's twitter purchase and subsequent moderation changes just may be what started the dominos toward ultimate victory.
Gamergate collapsed likely due to infighting between the dying libertarian left and emerging dissident right, as well as people refusing to organize off of reddit to avoid getting the community wrongfully banned.
Gamergate collapsed due to the number of people who refused to accept that the source of the issue was deliberate malice from the feminist movement writ large, what we now call wokeness.
That was apparent to everyone who is intelligent considering the extremist cunts get pissed at literally anything that does not comply to their ideology, also it was obvious they were clearly defending Zoe Quinn due to both personal ties AND extremism. They literally believed she did nothing wrong because the woke butt buddies are all literal misandrists who have no issue with women cheating on men.
As I said elsewhere: Basically all of our agreed-on targets are now literal dumpster fires. Gawker (and thus Kotaku) have declared bankruptcy and been sold multiple times, VICE and Buzzfeed News have declared bankruptcy, nobody has thought of GamaSutra in years, and both games journalism and mainstream journalism are widely acknowledged as dead.
Yes, but in forcing this, the enemy has revealed their hand. Major pushback is coalescing, and not only it is mainstream to believe the media is untrustworthy propaganda, it's mainstream to believe wealthy elites conspire to control it.
Fight on, boys. A second HP bar doesn't mean you're losing.
Yes, I remember being annoyed by all the people who were screeching "GAMERGATE WON" because some trash blogs enacted ethics rules they would never enforce.
The edgy Toryboy smugness of the Lotus Eaters Zoomers is starting to wear pretty thin.
I've been watching everyone from the beginning, and here's what I've seen:
Carl's Dadism has a major effect. Having kids and living in the UK is a major concern. His fucking 12 year old daughter tried to tell him she was bisexual FFS, and he lives 2 steps away from a horde of illegals that have subjugated the local hotel. He's on full-scale "Protect" mode.
Connor is entirely fighting with the media and back-end politics, and is a rampaging catholic, who's watching the Anglican Church trying to canonize George Floyd, and defile churches with Pride Sermons; all while watching the Conservatives, the media, and the church, kill the country with whatever weapon is available. He also lives in London and has to dodge stabbings on 2 hour trip to work at the office each day, while the Hindu-Paki Race Riots continue.
Harry's decided to go almost full "Evola Said Nothing Wrong" because the UK Libertarians are effectively Koch Brothers Corporatists who think that Libertarianism exists to protect the rights of real people: corporate citizens; and not disgusting plebs. All while the actual Libertarians look soft on crime, considering how out-of-control it is (along with the 9,000 girls a year who are raped by Muslim grooming gangs) in a country that literally allows pedophiles to apologize and not be arrested.
Dan's like a lot of very smart people I know: they see the cracks in the system, and start putting together shit that doesn't make any sense because they don't trust anything. Which is why he's moved to his whole: the moon landing was faked position.
Callum is just full-black-pill "fuck it, I'm going to have fun while the country dies" mentality. Which, at least makes him fun. Good memes.
Beau, believe it or not, is probably the most openly reactionary; but doesn't really speak to it much. I think he's even more in favor of the Bloody Code than Carl is. He just straight up wants to execute parliament. Like, all of them.
Stelios & Josh actually have the strongest heads on their shoulders; both mostly from their very analytical backgrounds.
Tradcon, sure. NeoCon? No way. No Neo-Cons anywhere near them.
Callum's black-pilled because he's kind of black-pilling himself
I think that's growing pains between essayist content and panel discussion. I think with the larger studio and 3 panel episodes, they're going to have no choice but to limit the essay portion for the panel discussion.
I think this is a standard problem for conservatives of struggling with the symptoms of a sick society, and taking it for the causes. Yeah, there is a point of something like video-game addiction or media-diet that can wreck your psychology; but the point is that these mechanisms wouldn't be profitable or common place if the foundational degeneracy of society was dealt with.
It's like: Simping is probably one of the most destructive modern cultural phenomenon of our time because it facilitates para-social-sexual relationships with hundreds of men, and makes sexual exploitation of women extremly accessible, poisoning everyone. But the foundational problem isn't simping. The problem is the broken homes, bad parenting, and social isolationism that is institutionally supported and incentivized across society. The women are looking for easy money and attention because of the social conditioning to value materialism and social affirmation through others, because they never developed a proper level of self-confidence and security from their absent fathers; meanwhile them men are beaten-down by social isolationism and institutional / systemic hatred of them and masculinity as a whole; while also working only for materialist purposes in a atomitized social environment; so they don't value themselves and are resorting to simply paying to mimic the idea of an intimate and alluring partner.
They typically hit on the symptom, and then try to use the government enforcing morality, failing to realize that morality can't be cultivated through the barrel of a gun, and the social failures that caused the degeneracy in the first place weren't addressed.
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Dude, none of them are Toryboys at this point.
Fuck, Harry seems to have gone full AA after abandoning Libertarianism. And Academic Agent is full-scale anti-Liberal, anti-Freedom, anti-Individualism, full Autocracy Now!
GamerGate failed at it's stated intentions, but I think we can see that the cultural resistance that we put up never actually wained.
Yes Journalists are still Leftists and corrupt
Yes the big publishers and developers are pushing virtue signaling.
But GamerGate wasn't an accident. It was an intentional ploy by the Leftists in the media to balkanize audiences into being controllable subjects that were loyal to their outlets; and it utterly failed.
History Lesson:
First, we had been seeing Leftism in Journalism going back to 2012. This was not new, the ideological capture of Game Journalism was already complete by 2014
Second, corrupt practices in game-entertainment goes all the way back to the early 1900's when Arcade machines were effectively money laundering for the mob. You aren't going to totally root out corruption within gaming. It's like rooting out cronyism in 'professional wrestling'. The industry has an underlying foundation on emotional manipulation. What we needed objective journalism for in 2014 was the fact that developers and publishers had been refusing to give us demos for years, and had even started creating fake demos that were not even built with the same software as the game itself.
Third, Game Journalism was dying because of YouTube. The Video Game magazine market was already collapsing. Play Magazine had already stopped reviewing games much earlier. All of the magazines, and even Nintendo Power to a degree, were fairly biased shill booklets because the medium wasn't profitable. But YouTube had recently lifted it's 10 minute maximum limit to videos, and now people started streaming games. Before it became entirely normalized, the publishers, and many journalist outlets, were pushing to criminalize livestreaming and uploading videos of gameplay.
GamerGate started as clear corruption and abuse by Zoey Quinn using her (intimate) connections to get favorable coverage, including even her own backers and investors to make reviews for her shit, all while abusing and cucking her boyfriend... but the defense for her was both political and economic. YouTubers were publishing videos that showed how badly wrong the Games media was in it's reviews, and had exposed corruption by showing how brazenly the journos were lying.
The journos went to war because they (correctly) saw their Access-Journalism oligopoly becoming unsustainable. So, attacking the audience would balkanize a political user-base to them, and prevent the audience from going to the obviously better source: Video Essayists, Walkthrough players, and Live streamers.
To be clear: this didn't work.
Game developers and publishers are basically shilling access journalism to content creators, because it's now a fully mutualist relationship that gets much more attention than the journalist outlets. The "content creators" are significantly more biased towards the genera, but not necessarily the product itself. Certainly not more than the journos were. The CC's biases are obvious, clear, and consistent (so it's a bit more transparent than the journos). The CC's are also vastly more competent in the genera than the best journos in the business (because they tend to focus on specific niches of gameplay styles, or only genera's that interest them).
For example: A journalist will basically tell you nothing different about any pokemon game, because (at a glance) they are all identical, and in many ways this is true. But the Pokemon CC is likely a competitive player, and has a long and inane explanation about how ability changes and breeding algorithm changes vastly effect top-level gameplay. He will do a video on that. If you are a basic player, you'll know whether you want to play it in 10 minutes; but if you are a hardcore fan, you'll know how to change your strategies after 30 minutes.
As a result, the industry itself is is monetarily shifting away from the journalists. Most of the shit they show involving SJ is because they are all out of Silicon Valley, and their Marketing departments haven't been fired yet. The underlying economic foundations are not salvageable; and the fact that these journalism outlets themselves are only making money based off of ridiculous Woke Capital investment rather than profit, shows you that the industry is already dead, and being propped up.
Finally, what Xbox Live Games brought in is now a full fledged cottage industry. AAA games might make money, but there is a vast industry of independent games, that are no longer even really that small anymore. When you also add that more countries, particularly Eastern and Central Europe are pushing out games rather than very specific studios in New York, California, Toronto, and Tokyo; the industry is facing vast, global, competition; even from "small businesses".
The Late 90's early 00's corporate dominance of major studios is seriously broken, and totally irreparable. Social Justice in the gaming space was a desperation move ten years ago. It's already dead, we're just waiting for the inevitable 2020's Gaming Crash which (given the economic conditions) can't be avoided anymore.
It's not Get Woke, Go Broke.
It's Go Broke, Get Woke, Croak We are headed towards the croak phase. As with the USSR, these things take time, but the longer it is delayed, the more total the collapse will be.
Gaming will survive the crash (even if Blizzard might not), but there will be plenty of parallel structures to latch onto that will take their place.
Can you explain what you mean by that?
Although I don't necessarily subscribe to Italian Elite Theory (especially on the grounds of what ought to be), I can't deny that some of it's assertions are entirely correct.
One of those assertions is that elites will always exist, and will always be supported by institutions. You can't ever just remove elites altogether and hope that institutions survive. Nor can you have an insittutionaless society. Elites can only be replaced. Normally, by separate institutions that can support them, and basically swap out or transition people over to the new institutions.
You need to build a parallel structure for people to move onto. If we were talking about education, this would be basically about building tons of private colleges and private credential systems, away from the current crop of state education schools & universities.
The video game industry already has an absolute fuck-ton of parallel structures in the form of small businesses that can more quickly respond to market forces (independent game studios) as well as parallel: secondary markets (content generation), marketing platforms (livestreamers and video presenters), publishing systems (Twitch.io, Steam, GoG, none are exclusive to an oligarchy of large developers), education (game jams, online courses, coding suites, Unity tutorials) so on and so forth.
When economic downturns arrive, the largest and most centralized structures will naturally take the largest hits because they are the slowest to respond. Plenty of small businesses will be able to respond quickly, and even if many go under, they are quickly replaced by entrapanuers who see the gap and can quickly act to take advantage of it.
As a result all large businesses use regulation and subsidy to protect themselves from market forces. The governments that are loyal to these corporations are prepared to damage the economy in order to save only the largest businesses. However, this power does not exist in the video-game space the way that it does in Energy, Transportation, Food, Weapons, etc. DC isn't coming to bail them out. Even if the parent companies are getting bailed out, the game studios are still going to get cut because consumer choice will lead people away from entertainment. Meaning that true deflation is the only result for the whole industry.
That allows the larger, established, and no longer functioning structures to collapse; but provides much needed growth opportunities for the smaller companies, along with cheaper labor from experienced people from the larger corporations that don't find the value in their game studios. Additionally (like with Twitter) the bureaucratic hangers-on will get immediately thrown to the wolves to protect the profit line.
You are right in how gaming will survive the crash, and thankfully we already have anti-woke/non-woke developers ready to capitalize on this by securing ideologically aligned talent that only works for large companies for paychecks.
Play the music, Mr. Romer
Yes, it's always been get woke, go broke, but that's not what's really happening. What Raz0r is describing is the actual series of events. We just see it as woke -> broke, specifically because we're only looking at the last second results.
If theres one thing GG failed at, its the fact a lot of them still dont realise this parasite goes way beyond gaming and is coming from one side of the political spectrum near exclusively
All I know is, I just wanted them to leave video games alone. It was obvious then, and still is obvious now that they don't care about it, or anything for that matter. Other than their ideology. They just crave ideological subversion.
It's almost cultish behavior. Find something, taint it, destroy what it was, make it yours, call it a win, move on. That's what they do. They'll do and say anything, even contradicting themselves minutes later, so long as it's for the cult.
And knowing it goes all the way to the top was a sobering, if disheartening find.
It's a David and Goliath story, except people will yell at you for not thinking of Goliath's feelings, while they secretly collude with Goliath in a new way behind the scenes in some other place.
GG didn't fail. The goal from the first day was to for the journo outlets to either cave to us or die, and they chose die. And they've been dropping like flies ever since. What nobody expected was them turning it into a society-wide culture war to try and martial more forces against us. That beast has taken on a life of its own now, and not only spread to almost every major institution in the Western world, it has also exposed the previously well hidden and silent, orchestrated takeover of all the key positions of society by literal Gender Communists.
Look at the political parties in America right now. The backwash is the same as GG and the journos. Every time they get caught they deflect, double down, and become more tyrannical and hysterical every step of the way even as more of the public turns against them. At this rate all they have left are the dangerhairs and the utterly clueless and the ride isn't stopping. Sooner or later something's gonna give.
Gamergate hasn't failed, it's not even out of the tutorial level.
Corrupt journalism showed cracks and those cracks went all the way through to government, education and employment.
We jiggled those cracks and it started the system to be undone. All we have to do is keep jiggling and it will topple like the end boss of an MMO.
It's after that where we need to level up and find a way for society to function more effectively.
Once the vaccine information is apparent to the masses, the corruption of US politics seen by all and the means from which information is disseminated and distributed is scrutinised we will have won.
Still a long ways to go but we're on the right path.
We need to protest more aggressively against every single slight like what the regressive left does.
Harry, more than Carl, but yes.
And yeah. Dan Quayle was right about Murphey Brown. In fact, George Bush Sr was right about The Simpsons. They were, indeed, a degenerate and dysfunctional family.