The middle ones, the 'biggest mods' pay Reddit a LOT of money to keep their status so they are untouchable. Those are the worst of them too.
These are the ones who refuse to pay a lot ($5k is nothing compared to what some of the bigger ones have given) and are the ones willing to fight the admins. They are just being replaced, likely by alts of the 'biggest mods' but I can't confirm that.
Because it doesn't seem like the top mods could afford the whale lifestyle.
Special Interest Groups pay them directly to allow or remove content so Reddit can pretend they aren't involved. They make a lot of money by moderating based on how companies tell them.
The method they are using is obscene. The mods log in, approve something, then are immediately logged out and locked out across the account. Every mod who tries to approve it has the same treatment.
It is like firing someone by putting a bag over their head and dragging you out onto the street. Kind of amusing to see.
I can't speak for other mods but the one making the complaint involved posting fruits and vegetables that could be construed as sexual to keep all the posts NSFW but avoid posting porn. That's what they nailed them for trying to approve.
While people in jobs specifically intended to misinform and sow discord are my enemy, I can sort of understand them needing money to provide for themselves because they lack any real skills or means to do so without being a cog in the system. This doesn't buy mercy, mind you, but at least there's an understanding it came from a cowardly and filthy attempt to not starve, pushing on other's heads to keep oneself float.
The reddit mods, however, now being thrown away like so much trash, did it all for free and that makes me belly laugh in pleasure. In this case, not just did it for free but paid money to do it for free. It just keeps getting funnier.
many of them are literal jannies, unpaid losers duped into being useful idiots, wasting their lives away censoring shitposts from a porn forum (reddit's leaked IPO docs admitted the site traffic is majority porn).
but many of them are more insidious than that. in 2016 after trump won, political action groups started a coalition to take over mod roles on practically all social media. enter the reddit powermods. they have mod roles on over 90% of the top 10k subs, and 60%+ of the top 100k. this was exposed in the banout2018 scandal.
the reason why any of this is a controversy at all is because the powermods use a massive API abusing censorship tool to keep an iron grip over practically all site content. and they make millions off this every single month. all of the whining about blind people apps and the third party app being better than the dogshit official reddit app... all of that is a distraction. it's entirely about the censorship tool not qualifying for the "moderation tool" discount. reddit doesn't want to admit that extremists took over their site, and the extremists don't want to admit they're making millions. and that's why there's this stupid fucking standoff.
I don't doubt anything you've said, but I do have a question. How are the unpaid mods making millions via censorship? Are you saying they are sponsored/paid actors of some activist org or something?
some of it is funding from political action groups. others are shilled marketing campaigns/blackmail.
notice how most of reddit softbans outlinks, but occasionally lets some sites through? yeah, they paid for it.
covid was a huge money maker in itself... the political groups funneled millions from government grants. ever wonder why citing CDC or UKPH data which went against the covid narrative was universally a sitebannable offense? yeah. it's because they were paid millions to censor.
This actually doesn't tell the whole story, check /r/Undelete to see the deleted thread but it is fascinating.
They are bullying the biggest mods out of their positions if they don't cowtow.
Does "biggest mods" include these power mods that control dozens of the top subreddits or only smaller scapegoats?
The middle ones, the 'biggest mods' pay Reddit a LOT of money to keep their status so they are untouchable. Those are the worst of them too.
These are the ones who refuse to pay a lot ($5k is nothing compared to what some of the bigger ones have given) and are the ones willing to fight the admins. They are just being replaced, likely by alts of the 'biggest mods' but I can't confirm that.
Isn't it more likely that some org "hiring" the powermods pays the money? Because it doesn't seem like the top mods could afford the whale lifestyle.
Special Interest Groups pay them directly to allow or remove content so Reddit can pretend they aren't involved. They make a lot of money by moderating based on how companies tell them.
Some yes. Awkwardtheturtle was hit. N8thegr8 (on his alt Karmanacht) was hit.
merari never joined the blackout so is save.
Oh shit, you're right. Awkward has been suspended. No amount of loyalty to The Cause is sufficient. If they disobey their masters, they're punished.
I hope the tens of thousands of hours xhe spent doing it for free was worth it. Must be feeling super good about that right now.
What is the full story?
Who would have thought you could get fired from an unpaid “job”
edit: People spent 10yrs volunteering for reddit and got fucked over :
https://archive.is/mDjwe
The method they are using is obscene. The mods log in, approve something, then are immediately logged out and locked out across the account. Every mod who tries to approve it has the same treatment.
It is like firing someone by putting a bag over their head and dragging you out onto the street. Kind of amusing to see.
As I understand it, these mods encouraged posting porn in SFW communities which is why they're being taken out back.
I can't speak for other mods but the one making the complaint involved posting fruits and vegetables that could be construed as sexual to keep all the posts NSFW but avoid posting porn. That's what they nailed them for trying to approve.
While people in jobs specifically intended to misinform and sow discord are my enemy, I can sort of understand them needing money to provide for themselves because they lack any real skills or means to do so without being a cog in the system. This doesn't buy mercy, mind you, but at least there's an understanding it came from a cowardly and filthy attempt to not starve, pushing on other's heads to keep oneself float.
The reddit mods, however, now being thrown away like so much trash, did it all for free and that makes me belly laugh in pleasure. In this case, not just did it for free but paid money to do it for free. It just keeps getting funnier.
All that salt can't be healthy :D
it's a lot more complicated than this.
many of them are literal jannies, unpaid losers duped into being useful idiots, wasting their lives away censoring shitposts from a porn forum (reddit's leaked IPO docs admitted the site traffic is majority porn).
but many of them are more insidious than that. in 2016 after trump won, political action groups started a coalition to take over mod roles on practically all social media. enter the reddit powermods. they have mod roles on over 90% of the top 10k subs, and 60%+ of the top 100k. this was exposed in the banout2018 scandal.
the reason why any of this is a controversy at all is because the powermods use a massive API abusing censorship tool to keep an iron grip over practically all site content. and they make millions off this every single month. all of the whining about blind people apps and the third party app being better than the dogshit official reddit app... all of that is a distraction. it's entirely about the censorship tool not qualifying for the "moderation tool" discount. reddit doesn't want to admit that extremists took over their site, and the extremists don't want to admit they're making millions. and that's why there's this stupid fucking standoff.
I don't doubt anything you've said, but I do have a question. How are the unpaid mods making millions via censorship? Are you saying they are sponsored/paid actors of some activist org or something?
some of it is funding from political action groups. others are shilled marketing campaigns/blackmail.
notice how most of reddit softbans outlinks, but occasionally lets some sites through? yeah, they paid for it.
covid was a huge money maker in itself... the political groups funneled millions from government grants. ever wonder why citing CDC or UKPH data which went against the covid narrative was universally a sitebannable offense? yeah. it's because they were paid millions to censor.
That is fucking hilarious! Hopefully the tranny jannie cabal is able to cope, seethe and dilate.