Well, I don't think orange man lost because of fraud. Was there some? Absolutely.
But he lost a ton of white voters, especially women. Turns out pandering to blacks and failing to come through on promises (and doing stupid shit like banning bump stocks, pushing shitty shots, etc) doesn't win you anything either.
Trump's votes grew in 2020 and his base exploded - even the people who supported him in 2016 just because "he wasn't hillary" saw how effective he'd been as president. His popular support was enormous. Meanwhile even among the leftists biden was unpopular.
The massive voter fraud is the only reason Trump "lost".
Then when we lose this time again because of retards like you, I'm going to die a little on the inside.
I voted for him in 2020 as well, but man, don't be a cultist. Wake the fuck up. He's coming at desantis from the left, which should be the biggest red flag for all of you guys, but you still can't figure it out.
He lost votes by pandering to women. He would have won if young white men still backed him, but there was a growing feeling that he was going to sell them out to the oppressor class.
If he wants to win again, he needs to crush the pro-woman wing of the GOP.
Despite my disagreements with our resident Neo-Liberal, I tend to agree with this. I think it will look more like 2016 rather than 1980, even with all the fraud, but I'll take it.
I think Arizona is actually up for grabs, same with Virgina, North Carolina, Georgia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire. Even, maybe, Colorado or Nevada.
Everyone of those would be guaranteed Trump if not for fraud, but remember that they don't have Covid to get around this time.
I'm sorry but that's just not going to happen ever again. The midterm we just had should have been the perfect storm for a red landslide and that didn't materialize.
There is an absolute horde of brainwashed normies who will not ever wake up if they haven't by now.
Are you drunk? What fucked it up was delusional polling.
Women going R+8 is not realistic. I even called it out at the time that it was complete bullshit. The GOP performed in-line with what would be expected without that. TERF pandering doesn't win you women's votes - you can't out feminist the left. They will openly endorse throwing men out of work for women's gain and leaving them to die in the street.
I have no faith in Americans at this point. The 2020 elections sealed it for me. They're too fat and lazy from their bread, circuses, and Soma to give a fuck about their country being sacked by barbarians.
I was with you til this part.
Dekachin is a retard who thinks the 2020 election wasn't fraudulent.
He also supports war with Russia and some times acts like a concern troll.
Well, I don't think orange man lost because of fraud. Was there some? Absolutely.
But he lost a ton of white voters, especially women. Turns out pandering to blacks and failing to come through on promises (and doing stupid shit like banning bump stocks, pushing shitty shots, etc) doesn't win you anything either.
That is retarded and you are blind.
Trump's votes grew in 2020 and his base exploded - even the people who supported him in 2016 just because "he wasn't hillary" saw how effective he'd been as president. His popular support was enormous. Meanwhile even among the leftists biden was unpopular.
The massive voter fraud is the only reason Trump "lost".
Uh huh.
Then when we lose this time again because of retards like you, I'm going to die a little on the inside.
I voted for him in 2020 as well, but man, don't be a cultist. Wake the fuck up. He's coming at desantis from the left, which should be the biggest red flag for all of you guys, but you still can't figure it out.
He lost votes by pandering to women. He would have won if young white men still backed him, but there was a growing feeling that he was going to sell them out to the oppressor class.
If he wants to win again, he needs to crush the pro-woman wing of the GOP.
Despite my disagreements with our resident Neo-Liberal, I tend to agree with this. I think it will look more like 2016 rather than 1980, even with all the fraud, but I'll take it.
I think Arizona is actually up for grabs, same with Virgina, North Carolina, Georgia, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and New Hampshire. Even, maybe, Colorado or Nevada.
Everyone of those would be guaranteed Trump if not for fraud, but remember that they don't have Covid to get around this time.
All of the states you listed will "vote" blue in 2024. You can save this comment if you want to.
The 2024 election is going to look like 1980.
It will be a repeat of 2020.
I'm sorry but that's just not going to happen ever again. The midterm we just had should have been the perfect storm for a red landslide and that didn't materialize.
There is an absolute horde of brainwashed normies who will not ever wake up if they haven't by now.
Because Trump fucked it up. DeSantis is going to dumpster Trump so he won't be there to fuck up 2024.
Keep huffing that copium then
Are you drunk? What fucked it up was delusional polling.
Women going R+8 is not realistic. I even called it out at the time that it was complete bullshit. The GOP performed in-line with what would be expected without that. TERF pandering doesn't win you women's votes - you can't out feminist the left. They will openly endorse throwing men out of work for women's gain and leaving them to die in the street.
I give you a rainbow for this one: š
I have no faith in Americans at this point. The 2020 elections sealed it for me. They're too fat and lazy from their bread, circuses, and Soma to give a fuck about their country being sacked by barbarians.
You really think a repeat of 80? Iād like to think so but I thought that would happen in 2020 after covid and the riots.
it's always darkest before the dawn