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UK demands a backdoor to spy on your whatsapp and signal. Whatsapp and signal offer to abandon the UK instead. (www.schneier.com)
posted 3 years ago by BidenIsAGroomer 3 years ago by BidenIsAGroomer +58 / -0
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– BidenIsAGroomer [S] 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

I assume Apple’s iMessage agreed to go along with the UK’s retarded 1984 mass surveillance plan?

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– APDSmith 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Seems safe to assume that anybody who doesn't exit the market will have agreed to the government's terms.

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– Bottle_of_Memes 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Would be incredibly naive to assume any mainstream messaging app didn't already agree to that years ago.

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– DOI56 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

NSA spied on Tucker Carlson's signal.

I don't even bother with VPN because nothing is private anyway, best not to have that illusion so not to give boldness to say things one would regret if others were watching.

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– BidenIsAGroomer [S] 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

It depends on who your adversary is - if the NSA want to spy on your whatsapp - they can do it by deploying a zero-day exploit on your iphone.

But weakening the encryption allows every third rate country (like saudi arabia and pakistan and London local politicians like Sadiq Khan) to monitor your speech for anything questioning Allah.

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– when_we_win_remember 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

True, most attacks go around encryption rather than defeating it directly. OTOH, it seems not that unlikely that the NSA has a quantum computer that can trivialize all our encryption. If we figure it usually takes 10 or more years before stuff makes it from experimental government shit to the private sector, the private sector isn't that far off.

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– Bouldabassed 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

The private sector is at what, like 10^3 qubits? In order to trivialize all encryption you would need like 10^6. And I don't think it is reasonable to assume quantum computing will follow Moore's Law, but even if it did, I think it is still far enough away where I would be quite thoroughly surprised if anyone anywhere had even 10^5 qubits, let alone 10^6.

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– when_we_win_remember 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

You sound like you know better than me.

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– when_we_win_remember 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Makes you wonder why the UK wants to ban it. Although I could believe their version is pathetic just like their military.

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– Assassin47 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Shouldn't Proton VPN be good enough for that? It's free. I bet they share IP logs with the government, but I doubt they care about torrents.

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– SoctaticMethod1 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

WhatsApp and Signal: 'you don't pay enough and/or you're secret police isn't as terrifying.'

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– FutaCumDiet 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

There is literally no such thing as a backdoor that only the government can access.

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– user20461 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Converso seems to blow all of these away judging by their features (check link below and scroll down to their comparison with other apps).

Here's a link: https://conversoapp.com/

I don't have a use for these apps so DYOR, but this one appears good because of certain features, like being able to delete a sent message on the recipient's phone, so signup info required, messages are deleted on their servers as soon as its sent (or so they claim. Again, DYOR), and a lot more.

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