I remember that you made this argument before. When I asked what you have achieved, the answer was that you have achieved a lot, because you have a job.
When you were asked if no women ever had a job, you replied that no woman ever deserved her job, and that therefore no woman ever achieved anything.
I remember that you made this argument before. When I asked what you have achieved, the answer was that you have achieved a lot, because you have a job.
That's shifting the goal posts, though. I don't think the claim was ever that Imp deserves a museum (would be funny though, and I fully support!), or even that men deserve a museum. Just that women don't. Whether or not the person making that argument deserves a museum is a moot point. Although Imp also answered very poorly, sounds like.
I don't think the claim was ever that Imp deserves a museum (would be funny though, and I fully support!),
As do I.
Just that women don't
Obviously, they don't. I'm addressing the claim that "they've achieved nothing", which informed by his previous statements means that no woman has ever achieved anything.
Although Imp also answered very poorly, sounds like.
He did as well as you could expect in this situation. He at least made a reasonable argument. In another thread, he said that no woman has ever achieved anything because they all "stole" their jobs form men.
The difference between personal achievements and the kind that go in a museum is huge. The only reason to have a museum of women is to put all their nasty genocidal quotes up to show everyone who they are.
Well, we know they deliberately handicap the achievements of boys from a young age, because a study confirmed it. We know they have an in-group bias, because every study to deny it ended up confirming it. We know they are handed positions of power for ESG points, because I have the paperwork for it. I wouldn't say that they can say they earned their jobs considering these factors.
As I said, a women's museum should be filled with quotes of how women believe men should be treated. Then they should take school kids there to learn from an early age.
No...it's more complicated than that and I don't know how to draw a chart on here.
Let's assume that a company has four levels of employees.
Staff > Managers > Directors > CEO
Because of the aforementioned biases, women mostly end up in the middle two levels, despite not being deserving of those roles. Companies can also promote women to the top level, typically after a woman-led rape scandal that's as fake as women's loyalty.
In a meritocracy, women would fall down the ranks and nearly entirely occupy the lowest level.
But even accepting all your premises, which is that every single woman in the world has a higher position than she otherwise would due to preferential treatment, they'd still have a job, and according to you, simply holding a job is sufficient to say that you have 'achievements'. So it's not that they hold a job when they otherwise would not, but for preferential treatment. If having a job is an accomplishment, most would have one even in lieu of the current situation.
Anyway, following your logic means that no Color of People can ever have any accomplishments, because affirmative action exists.
I remember that you made this argument before. When I asked what you have achieved, the answer was that you have achieved a lot, because you have a job.
When you were asked if no women ever had a job, you replied that no woman ever deserved her job, and that therefore no woman ever achieved anything.
That's shifting the goal posts, though. I don't think the claim was ever that Imp deserves a museum (would be funny though, and I fully support!), or even that men deserve a museum. Just that women don't. Whether or not the person making that argument deserves a museum is a moot point. Although Imp also answered very poorly, sounds like.
I deserve a museum for my list posts.
I support it.
"The museum for men" exists in Japan actually. It's a porn shop lol.
But Hedy Lamar invented WiFi!!!
As do I.
Obviously, they don't. I'm addressing the claim that "they've achieved nothing", which informed by his previous statements means that no woman has ever achieved anything.
He did as well as you could expect in this situation. He at least made a reasonable argument. In another thread, he said that no woman has ever achieved anything because they all "stole" their jobs form men.
The difference between personal achievements and the kind that go in a museum is huge. The only reason to have a museum of women is to put all their nasty genocidal quotes up to show everyone who they are.
Well, we know they deliberately handicap the achievements of boys from a young age, because a study confirmed it. We know they have an in-group bias, because every study to deny it ended up confirming it. We know they are handed positions of power for ESG points, because I have the paperwork for it. I wouldn't say that they can say they earned their jobs considering these factors.
Agreed, but your earlier claim was that no woman ever had any personal achievements either, while you do because you have a job.
Insofar as women have made museum kinds of contributions, you definitely don't need a special museum for it.
You said that no woman earned her job. Does that mean that in a meritocratic world, zero women would have a job?
As I said, a women's museum should be filled with quotes of how women believe men should be treated. Then they should take school kids there to learn from an early age.
No...it's more complicated than that and I don't know how to draw a chart on here.
Let's assume that a company has four levels of employees.
Staff > Managers > Directors > CEO
Because of the aforementioned biases, women mostly end up in the middle two levels, despite not being deserving of those roles. Companies can also promote women to the top level, typically after a woman-led rape scandal that's as fake as women's loyalty.
In a meritocracy, women would fall down the ranks and nearly entirely occupy the lowest level.
But even accepting all your premises, which is that every single woman in the world has a higher position than she otherwise would due to preferential treatment, they'd still have a job, and according to you, simply holding a job is sufficient to say that you have 'achievements'. So it's not that they hold a job when they otherwise would not, but for preferential treatment. If having a job is an accomplishment, most would have one even in lieu of the current situation.
Anyway, following your logic means that no Color of People can ever have any accomplishments, because affirmative action exists.