Marvel & DC went woke. So people switched to manga.
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Honestly, DC and Marvel's decline started before they went woke. I love superheroes, but the nonsensical continuity, combined with frequent resets made it hard to really get into comics. I have some heroes, authors, and storylines that I really like. But it was hard to be a reader who kept up with things.
Compare that with manga, where each story is written by one author and is usually only running for a finite story. Manga is also cheaper than comics.
DC and Marvel were already in a decline, but wokeness was the kill shot. The MCU should have saved Marvel comics, but Marvel pissed away a golden opportunity by not featuring the characters who were popular in film in their comics.
It is what happens when your employees are primarily low IQ activists. The editors are checked out, afraid of being pilloried on Twitter. The lunatics are running the bullpen.
MCU was putting people into the comic shops. However, when they get there looking for Iron man, Thor, and Hulk. They are pointed towards Ironheart, Jane Foster, and Amadeus Cho. So the normie picks up some merch and browses the manga section instead. Almost a decade of foot traffic squandered.
Comicgate / Indy / manga stuff is what I buy now. Maybe some Marvel back issues once in awhile, but my enthusiasm is gone.
I remember thinking that the "Death of the Family" arc in Batman looked interesting a few years ago. It took near an entire night to find the necessary guide to all the different books I needed to read and acquire them to get the entire story.
Only for it to be almost meaningless in the greater canon, including a major character being forced out of what should be one of their most important stories and then retconned to ignore it ever happened just because the author of the "main" book for that character didn't like it ruining their "vision" for their run and not wanting to play along. Among them deciding another "major" arc needed to follow Death, so basically all the consequences from it to be moved on from despite how huge it really should have been.
On the other side, I find manga that look interesting every few months and the biggest hurdle is sometimes finding the name and after that I'm reading it in a minute. Wherein the only possible obstacle is slow/bad scanlation from there.
I agree. Spider-man for example has sucked since One More Day, and that happened all the way back in '06.
Marvel as a whole has sucked since about that time too. The continuity is awful, every new run just resets everything, so nothing ultimately matters. Writers always try to outdo each other with big events that radically change things, only for things to go very quickly back to status quo.
Woke is the biggest problem, but the continuity is another major one, and it's been that way for a while. It probably started in the mid-nineties when shock-value stories became big (clone saga, death of superman, etc.) But it seemed better by late-90s early 2000s, only to go downhill again in the mid-to-late 2000s.
That was the point that broke Spider-man comics for me. The rest of Marvel was some sad soap at that point anyway. In fact I think the X-men were always a soap.
Went to DC, and then they made the dumb Bat canon post those Bale movies, and the need for an ever sprawling 'family' of 'better than batmans'.
The worst though, was the fucking 'Conjunx endura' garbage that came out of IDW. All the fucking time. They alphabetized the original Trans for no reason than shitty plot that must mirror our culture all the fucking time.
The comic industry is dead, and I just wish it were buried already.
yeah I'm a Transformers fan (another subreddit that has been taken over) and the bots over there were gushing over IDW's "Lost Light" storyline.
I was about to get it, until some jackass mentioned how great the representation is for gays and trans. I'm sorry, but why the fuck is that shit in a comic that should be about giant transforming robots killing each other? I'm just fucking done. At least the old Marvel Simon Furman books still exist.
Yeah, back around 2008-2012 I really tried to get back in to comics, found maybe a handful of titles I enjoyed, tapped out completely by 2015.
Back when I was buying comics every week, I stuck to other publishers like Image or wholly independent releases because they offered self contained stories/worlds. There wasn't anything to get all confused by or miss out on by not buying a whole bunch of crossovers. Pick up volume one and follow the story through to its conclusion. Done. Actual storytelling rather than the endless meandering that is endemic to DC and Marvel.
I was able to get over the crossovers, even though they irritated me when I was younger because my friends had different favorites than I did, and we shared. But, it's still nonsense.