Going forward: you can't trust anything from SouthFront or Russian state affiliated accounts on telegram
First time?
Name me one source that you will unconditionally trust, and I'll be calling you naive.
Read every source and take them all with an appropriate grain of salt. A large one for the Washington Post, and a much smaller one for someone with the track record of Seymour Hersh.
Even if the Ukrainian and Western Governments aren't physically forcing men into this war, these governments have effectively brainwashed the men into thinking that fighting this war is in these men's interests when it clearly is not. That makes these governments evil, regardless of anything else going on.
Not in their interest? They have everything to lose, and in many cases just want revenge. Most all the Ukrainian men and women I know stayed to fight or to care for family. Most Russians I know ran because they have nothing to gain.
I think that's the thing folks don't get. Even if Russia took all of Ukraine tomorrow with zero casualties it would still be a net drag on the average Russian. Russia needs to get out in order to save Russia.
Being dead is not a net benefit. You clearly aren't familiar with the history of Russia taking over countries and what happens after. Even in recent history look at Abkhazia. Whole town's just wiped off the map.
The Ukrainians know full well what happens if they lose.
Tell that to the corpses in Georgia. The area was never developed or rebuilt or anything. It makes no sense to YOU is what you mean to say though, and that's because you don't understand the Slavic mindset is very different. It is much more emotional than westerners are used to. As an example, the guy who made the AK-47 really wanted to be a poet in life, a common goal among men. It is literally a mentality that will "cut off the nose to spite the face" and we in the west are not used to it, and fabricate logical reasons when they are in fact acting emotionally. Once you understand that, then it will begin to make sense.
The Russians have no intention of rebuilding anything, only to create more corpses and ghost towns. Again, just look at what happened in Georgia and you have your answer.
You want to believe they are in the right here and can't see the reality. The truth is most Russians have family in Ukraine and vice versa. Most Russians don't really want to kill their aunty or die trying just to go into eternal debt and be ostracized from the world.
You mean Georgia, where the west backed a Pro-Western regime, had a bid for NATO going and pretty much repeated exactly what's going on in Ukraine. Of course Russia attacked and decimated them.
The villain is not Russia, it's the West. Stop doing the West's bidding and Russia might not come and destroy you. Seems easy enough.
I've never said anything else but that it's completely retarded to think in terms of group rights. Going years back. So I'm not sure why you think this is some new revelation.
If you think something is unjust, but support it anyway because it's in the interests of your gender, you're a pretty bad person. Now, I doubt you support something like that, but if you don't, then you agree with me.
You're so smart dude. Only feminists can be victims. Only feminists care about the struggles of men. Only feminists are able to see life under a lens of male interests and female interests. Damn, I wish I was as smart as you.
Uh, he didn't say men's interests. He said "is in these men's interests".
But there's nothing wrong with prioritizing or caring about men's interests specifically. If all feminists did was care about women, there'd be nothing wrong with feminism.
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You know I usually support you, because we agree how fucked things are for men, but isn't this a huge red flag that even if they're right in this case, they shouldn't be trusted?
First time?
Name me one source that you will unconditionally trust, and I'll be calling you naive.
Read every source and take them all with an appropriate grain of salt. A large one for the Washington Post, and a much smaller one for someone with the track record of Seymour Hersh.
CNN.
I have full confidence that what ever they post, no matter the subject, cannot be the correct answer to the question.
"Department of Leveling Up?" Is there a joke I'm--
...holy shit, that's actually what it's fucking called. I thought you were joking.
Their primary focus is helping you grind your JRPG characters more efficiently.
As a side gig, they shit all over white people in favor of Muslim immigrants.
Pictured: the department of leveling up
Even if the Ukrainian and Western Governments aren't physically forcing men into this war, these governments have effectively brainwashed the men into thinking that fighting this war is in these men's interests when it clearly is not. That makes these governments evil, regardless of anything else going on.
Not in their interest? They have everything to lose, and in many cases just want revenge. Most all the Ukrainian men and women I know stayed to fight or to care for family. Most Russians I know ran because they have nothing to gain.
I think that's the thing folks don't get. Even if Russia took all of Ukraine tomorrow with zero casualties it would still be a net drag on the average Russian. Russia needs to get out in order to save Russia.
And if Russia took over all of Ukraine, it would be a net benefit to Ukrainians, so why are you fighting?
Being dead is not a net benefit. You clearly aren't familiar with the history of Russia taking over countries and what happens after. Even in recent history look at Abkhazia. Whole town's just wiped off the map.
The Ukrainians know full well what happens if they lose.
Makes no sense. Why would Russia destroy a country that welcomed them? The only reason they're destroying you is because you're resisting.
Tell that to the corpses in Georgia. The area was never developed or rebuilt or anything. It makes no sense to YOU is what you mean to say though, and that's because you don't understand the Slavic mindset is very different. It is much more emotional than westerners are used to. As an example, the guy who made the AK-47 really wanted to be a poet in life, a common goal among men. It is literally a mentality that will "cut off the nose to spite the face" and we in the west are not used to it, and fabricate logical reasons when they are in fact acting emotionally. Once you understand that, then it will begin to make sense.
The Russians have no intention of rebuilding anything, only to create more corpses and ghost towns. Again, just look at what happened in Georgia and you have your answer.
You want to believe they are in the right here and can't see the reality. The truth is most Russians have family in Ukraine and vice versa. Most Russians don't really want to kill their aunty or die trying just to go into eternal debt and be ostracized from the world.
You mean Georgia, where the west backed a Pro-Western regime, had a bid for NATO going and pretty much repeated exactly what's going on in Ukraine. Of course Russia attacked and decimated them.
The villain is not Russia, it's the West. Stop doing the West's bidding and Russia might not come and destroy you. Seems easy enough.
The classic "stop hitting yourself" meme. As always, the retarded kindergarten foreign policy, "do what we want or we kill you".
Equally shocking when people don't want to be killed. This is exactly why Russia continues to fail unfortunately. They could be so much more.
No one who isn't retarded is thinking about "men's interests".
It's just you and that little shit of an imp.
I've never said anything else but that it's completely retarded to think in terms of group rights. Going years back. So I'm not sure why you think this is some new revelation.
If you think something is unjust, but support it anyway because it's in the interests of your gender, you're a pretty bad person. Now, I doubt you support something like that, but if you don't, then you agree with me.
Yes, we know you're a feminist.
Ironically, the only people who do think in those terms are feminists. So yeah. Good company you're in.
You're so smart dude. Only feminists can be victims. Only feminists care about the struggles of men. Only feminists are able to see life under a lens of male interests and female interests. Damn, I wish I was as smart as you.
Oh, you don't need to be very smart in order to not say that "women should be men's sex slaves", as you did...
Only feminists make things about the interests of one sex or another. You got it right in one go! Congrats.
Only feminists are batshit crazy enough to do that.
Well, then learn about the subjunctive.
Uh, he didn't say men's interests. He said "is in these men's interests".
But there's nothing wrong with prioritizing or caring about men's interests specifically. If all feminists did was care about women, there'd be nothing wrong with feminism.
You know I usually support you, because we agree how fucked things are for men, but isn't this a huge red flag that even if they're right in this case, they shouldn't be trusted?
The thing that disgusts me most about feminists is the victim complex. Some people have managed to copy that.