Even if the Ukrainian and Western Governments aren't physically forcing men into this war, these governments have effectively brainwashed the men into thinking that fighting this war is in these men's interests when it clearly is not. That makes these governments evil, regardless of anything else going on.
Not in their interest? They have everything to lose, and in many cases just want revenge. Most all the Ukrainian men and women I know stayed to fight or to care for family. Most Russians I know ran because they have nothing to gain.
I think that's the thing folks don't get. Even if Russia took all of Ukraine tomorrow with zero casualties it would still be a net drag on the average Russian. Russia needs to get out in order to save Russia.
Being dead is not a net benefit. You clearly aren't familiar with the history of Russia taking over countries and what happens after. Even in recent history look at Abkhazia. Whole town's just wiped off the map.
The Ukrainians know full well what happens if they lose.
I've never said anything else but that it's completely retarded to think in terms of group rights. Going years back. So I'm not sure why you think this is some new revelation.
If you think something is unjust, but support it anyway because it's in the interests of your gender, you're a pretty bad person. Now, I doubt you support something like that, but if you don't, then you agree with me.
You're so smart dude. Only feminists can be victims. Only feminists care about the struggles of men. Only feminists are able to see life under a lens of male interests and female interests. Damn, I wish I was as smart as you.
Uh, he didn't say men's interests. He said "is in these men's interests".
But there's nothing wrong with prioritizing or caring about men's interests specifically. If all feminists did was care about women, there'd be nothing wrong with feminism.
Even if the Ukrainian and Western Governments aren't physically forcing men into this war, these governments have effectively brainwashed the men into thinking that fighting this war is in these men's interests when it clearly is not. That makes these governments evil, regardless of anything else going on.
Not in their interest? They have everything to lose, and in many cases just want revenge. Most all the Ukrainian men and women I know stayed to fight or to care for family. Most Russians I know ran because they have nothing to gain.
I think that's the thing folks don't get. Even if Russia took all of Ukraine tomorrow with zero casualties it would still be a net drag on the average Russian. Russia needs to get out in order to save Russia.
And if Russia took over all of Ukraine, it would be a net benefit to Ukrainians, so why are you fighting?
Being dead is not a net benefit. You clearly aren't familiar with the history of Russia taking over countries and what happens after. Even in recent history look at Abkhazia. Whole town's just wiped off the map.
The Ukrainians know full well what happens if they lose.
Makes no sense. Why would Russia destroy a country that welcomed them? The only reason they're destroying you is because you're resisting.
No one who isn't retarded is thinking about "men's interests".
It's just you and that little shit of an imp.
I've never said anything else but that it's completely retarded to think in terms of group rights. Going years back. So I'm not sure why you think this is some new revelation.
If you think something is unjust, but support it anyway because it's in the interests of your gender, you're a pretty bad person. Now, I doubt you support something like that, but if you don't, then you agree with me.
Yes, we know you're a feminist.
Ironically, the only people who do think in those terms are feminists. So yeah. Good company you're in.
You're so smart dude. Only feminists can be victims. Only feminists care about the struggles of men. Only feminists are able to see life under a lens of male interests and female interests. Damn, I wish I was as smart as you.
Uh, he didn't say men's interests. He said "is in these men's interests".
But there's nothing wrong with prioritizing or caring about men's interests specifically. If all feminists did was care about women, there'd be nothing wrong with feminism.