Imagine trying to defend pharmaceutical companies.
I don't get how "not every heart failure is the result of the vbaccine" is "defending the pharmaceutical companies.
now I get the feeling you probably urged someone else to take the mystery juice shot and trying not to feel guilty for possibly fucking up their, and your own, health.
Nope. What I said still holds true. Get the vaccine if you're old or fat, or have weird conditions. Amazing how right I was, eh?
It is easier to fool a man than it is to convince him he has been made a fool of.
This "vaccine" has had what is perhaps the absolute worst efficacy to date for any vaccine available on the market. This is even when you compare it to the damn strain it was designed for, provided you actually analyze the result of the vaccine and not the clearly, and blatantly, falsified trials that they used.
What you just told them to do, is inject themselves with a poison that will, at best, do nothing of benefit for them. At worst it has the potential to outright kill them, and failing that, drastically alter their life for the worse.
2 years ago, I would have tentatively agreed with your statement, and even said as much back then. Repeating that statement as if nothing has changed is not just idiotic, it is malicious incompetence at best. You are telling people to inject themselves with poison. Period.
The data is now extremely available, both in terms of how garbage these "vaccines" were at doing there job, and at how dangerous they are. The only data we don't have, is whether or not they end up being excessively carcinogenic, and that is because it was physically impossible to perform such tests.
It is easier to fool a man than it is to convince him he has been made a fool of.
Correct. But don't think that it is just the establishment that is fooling people. The problem is that no one will feel ashamed of being fooled by the establishment. Those who were fooled by random blog posts, on the other hand, will feel massive amounts of cognitive dissonance.
This "vaccine" has had what is perhaps the absolute worst efficacy to date for any vaccine available on the market.
Efficacy against what? Infection or death/servere disease?
What you just told them to do, is inject themselves with a poison that will, at best, do nothing of benefit for them. At worst it has the potential to outright kill them, and failing that, drastically alter their life for the worse.
At best, do nothing? Even in the worst-case scenario, it provides fair protection against death and hospitalization.
2 years ago, I would have tentatively agreed with your statement, and even said as much back then. Repeating that statement as if nothing has changed is not just idiotic, it is malicious incompetence at best. You are telling people to inject themselves with poison. Period.
You just keep repeating the word 'poison' as if that establishes it. I think my advice has held up rather well.
The data is now extremely available, both in terms of how garbage these "vaccines" were at doing there job, and at how dangerous they are. The only data we don't have, is whether or not they end up being excessively carcinogenic, and that is because it was physically impossible to perform such tests.
I suspect that "the data" is cherrypicked and spun data. Basically, because you mistrust the establishment (as I do), you are very vulnerable to being manipulated by people who assert that the establishment has done something wrong.
Efficacy against what? Infection or death/servere disease?
Oh. You're one of those people. That was never the fucking claim, they lied about everything, and even the "protects against hospitalization/death" argument is falling apart. I love that language, too; "hospitalization and death," when they trot that out they're admitting it doesn't vaccinate at all.
Even in the worst-case scenario, it provides fair protection against death and hospitalization.
Hahahahaha. I hadn't even gotten there when I wrote my earlier thing, that's great. Again, I don't even believe that; vaccinated people are being hospitalized at at least near the same rate, and it's been rising. There's often already more vaccinated people hospitalized than non-vaxxed although, yes, not per capita...yet, in most places. I suspect we will see a full reversal at some point, though, where even taking into account the number of people vaxxed versus unvaxxed, more vaxxed people will be hospitalized and dying. If it's not already happened; we know how screwy their counting is. For example, if you get your fourth booserino and keel over with the needle literally in your arm, you're unvaxxed, since it hasn't been two weeks yet.
Basically, because you mistrust the establishment (as I do), you are very vulnerable to being manipulated by people who assert that the establishment has done something wrong.
The establishment is always doing something wrong, and we've already seen them do wrong about so many things surrounding the vaccine (data, mandates, studies, claims), I'd be absolutely shocked if they weren't also doing wrong with the vaccine itself.
Because you're deflecting how the mainstream did for the last 2 years: "it may be super rare, but just because it's happening more often now, doesn't mean it didn't happen before!"
So? What do you want me to say? That any heart attack is DEFINITELY BECAUSE OF THE VACCINE?
As if it was just the young that had side effects from it, I was using that as an example, because if young people are having issues from it, old fucks will have it worse.
Very early on, it was clear that side-effects were worst in the young, and least bad in the old. So it becomes a perfect cost-benefit graph by age: benefits are greatest the older you are, and costs are lower the older you are. And if you're young, the benefits are very limited, and costs are highest.
But yes, you are right, if you're trying to get them killed faster that is.
If I tell a 80+, with something like a 10% fatality rate from Covid, that the vaccine is a good idea, I'm trying to kill him?
Even the 80+ group NEVER had a 10% Fatality Rate from covid. At worst, it was 1% based on the IFR, along with hospitals being financially incentivized to report every death as covid, but the press breathlessly reported the CFR so that retards like you would exaggerate the threat and defend the clotshots.
So? What do you want me to say? That any heart attack is DEFINITELY BECAUSE OF THE VACCINE?
Of course not, don't be obtuse. We're talking averages. The rise in heart attacks in the young is due to the vaccine. That seems pretty dang clear cut.
Very early on, it was clear that side-effects were worst in the young, and least bad in the old.
According to who? The same people who lied to us about literally everything? Also, very early on we were told repeatedly that there were no side effects. And that it stopped transmission. And that it stopped symptoms and you wouldn't be hospitalized. And that it stopped variants. And so on.
I don't get how you can act like this is normal, when they've changed what the "vaccine" is supposed to do so many times. It's extreme gaslighting.
So it becomes a perfect cost-benefit graph by age: benefits are greatest the older you are, and costs are lower the older you are.
That may be true if the vaccine worked. It doesn't.
If I tell a 80+, with something like a 10% fatality rate from Covid, that the vaccine is a good idea, I'm trying to kill him?
No, but it's probably terrible advice. For one thing, it's not 10% across the board, that still disproportionately affects the fat or otherwise unhealthy. Secondly, the vaccine doesn't even seem to work, and in fact lowers immune response after some time. So if that person is willing to go on a subscription service where they die if they stop taking it...maybe? Maybe it's right for them. Personally I'd still stay pureblood and roll the dice, even if I was ninety years old.
I'm sure 20-year-olds were always having heart attacks.
In very specific circumstances, not in broad strokes like seems to be happening now. I'm talking preexisting conditions or birth defects, mainlining caffeine for days on end, stuff like that. Not just "died suddenly," which is now the leading cause of death in some regions.
Something has obviously changed, and we all know what it is.
So what precisely has changed, qua numbers? I only see people attributring deaths to the vaccine without even knowing if the person in question had taken it.
I only see people attributring deaths to the vaccine without even knowing if the person in question had taken it.
Yup, sometimes that's certainly the case. Here's the thing though, this is the absolute wrong thread to make that argument, since there are no specific people in question; no one is making the argument here that X person or Y public figure died from the vaccine. Deaths are up overall...and - according to official numbers, whatever those are worth - 97.4% of Australians (16+) had at least one dose, 96% had two doses, even 72.4% had three doses.
So, statistically, almost all of these people dying are vaccinated. So even if someone in this thread did pick at one random dead Aussie and say "this dude here that died suddenly was vaccinated"...they'd almost certainly be correct.
So, yeah, the people dying are vaccinated. Causation, correlation, whatever, that can all be argued. But they are vaccinated.
Deaths are up overall...and - according to official numbers, whatever those are worth - 97.4% of Australians (16+) had at least one dose, 96% had two doses, even 72.4% had three doses.
Those are crazy percentages. Honestly, had to double-check, because that is abnormally high. Australia is kookystan.
So, yeah, the people dying are vaccinated. Causation, correlation, whatever, that can all be argued. But they are vaccinated.
Most likely, but only in this case. My point is that people generally do not care to discover whether or not it was actually their pet political issue that led to this, even in other instances. You saw it today when they tried to claim that the Diamond lady died because of the vaccine, when evidence from their Twitter account shows that she almost certainly was not.
And yes, that they blame it on 'climate change' makes me think it's more likely that they are hiding something. Not necessarily the vaccines, as the media was also strongly in favor of the lockdowns. So it has to be something that they're against. The fact that all the people who argued that lockdowns are bad for people's health, now claim that any heart failure cannot have anything to do with them, also makes me suspicious of them.
We live in an Empire of Lies. I have no way of verifying anything that people say. Just because the media propagates lies, does not mean that the anti-media people necessarily tell the truth, or that they even have the competence to distinguish truth from falsehood. And I'd rather say "I don't know" than claim stuff that may well prove false.
No, overall. I'm not saying people don't jump to conclusions, but often times the people dropping dead are in some of the most highly vaxxed/mandated segments of the population so, again, it's often a fair assumption to link the death and the - even if assumed - vaccine. Maybe don't make definitive statements, sure, but I think it's more than fair to theorize, even if you don't know the person's vax status for sure.
And yes, that they blame it on 'climate change' makes me think it's more likely that they are hiding something. Not necessarily the vaccines, as the media was also strongly in favor of the lockdowns.
Yes, they're definitely lying about something. I'd also argue it's incredibly suspicious that "unknown" cause of death is rapidly increasing, and no one is talking about it. That seems a huge fucking omission from the media, and there's got to be a reason.
The fact that all the people who argued that lockdowns are bad for people's health, now claim that any heart failure cannot have anything to do with them, also makes me suspicious of them.
I've seen this argument so much. I never saw anyone claiming young people would be dying of heart attacks due to the lockdowns. I certainly never claimed that. I did see claims we'd start seeing an increase in heart deaths among young people due to the vaccine, though. You're doing the same conflating of age ranges that contributed to screwy covid numbers. Now, are some of these heart attacks from lockdown? Absolutely. Are some from the vaccine? Absolutely. And probably almost all of the heart attacks in the young are vaccine-related. Not all, but most.
We live in an Empire of Lies. I have no way of verifying anything that people say. Just because the media propagates lies, does not mean that the anti-media people necessarily tell the truth, or that they even have the competence to distinguish truth from falsehood. And I'd rather say "I don't know" than claim stuff that may well prove false.
I get that. But you don't seem to be saying "I don't know," you're still believing claims that weren't even the initial claims. We've already stumbled down so many steps from "prevents transmission," that it's laughable.
Well, you talked about one 'retarded decision'. Anyone should wish that his retarded decisions in life can be described using the singular.
That at least I can agree with.
So here's what I don't get: your obsession with trying to justify your own decision. Suppose that all these heart attacks are the result of taking the vaccine. You didn't, so why are you so concerned about it? Covid is done anyway.
Or is this because in Murica your leftists still pretend that it's a big deal?
I don't need to justify anything, because I never got it in the first place, nor did I ever tell anyone to, in fact I did the opposite.
And yet you sound very defensive. As if you are replying to someone criticizing you for not taking it.
hat only had a few months of trial tests, and how some governments and jobs made it mandatory, while even early on, had some pretty serious side effects, that a FDA slide shown right around when the vax was released, potentially genociding a few generations.
Genociding a few generations? You still believe that is a possibility? Or are you criticizing the immediate mandating of these vaccines after only cursory testing? The first would make you an absolute lunatic, the second is a reasonable point.
Covid wasn't the issue, the "cure" always was, like what had been telegraphed in every other sci-fi film/book written about outbreaks in the last 40+ years.
It depends on your age.
I can forgive those that were forced to, like children forced by their parents, and maybe those that had their entire country mandate it, but not those who got it willingly or urged others to.
I disagree completely. I have no respect for people who allowed governments to force them to take it. But those who took it for their own health, sure.
If the "anti-vax" side ever wins, these last few years will be written about in history books for decades as the biggest fuck up in science and medical history, more so than lobotomies
Do you have to be 'pro-vax' or 'anti-vax', and not just someone with common sense?
So here's what I don't get: your obsession with trying to justify your own decision. Suppose that all these heart attacks are the result of taking the vaccine. You didn't, so why are you so concerned about it?
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Seriously?
You're not fighting and dying in Ukraine, why should you care? Inflation isn't literally killing you, why should you care? You weren't geocided in [choose your genocide], what's the issue? You're not being sent to the camps, why should you care? You're not Canadian, why should you care what's happening there? Your children weren't groomed, why do you care?
A great evil has been done, but doesn't directly affect you (even if you have family and friends it does affect)...why are you so obsessed with talking about it?
You're a smart guy on many things...but this was an absolute brainlet take. Like (hopefully) peak brainlet.
You're not fighting and dying in Ukraine, why should you care?
Same reason I care about US politics: because it does affect me. Inflation is wrecking everyone's life, billions of our money are sent to a corrupt puppet non-country, and we live once again in the shadow of nuclear war.
A great evil has been done, but doesn't directly affect you (even if you have family and friends it does affect)...why are you so obsessed with talking about it?
There is no evidence of a 'great evil'. I suspect that people who do try to portray it as such are interested in self-justification. It's as if they're always talking to some leftist berating them for not taking the vaccine. But here's the thing. There is nothing to justify. Just say "Didn't want it."
Insofar as there was great evil, that was the attempt to force vaccines on people. That would be true even if the vaccines had no side-effects and only had benefits.
Same reason I care about US politics: because it does affect me.
And I have friends, family, neighbors, and the like who were forced to take something that now means they're more at risk for death; that does affect me. But even if it wasn't so direct, different death trends in humans affects everyone.
I suspect that people who do try to portray it as such are interested in self-justification.
I don't need to justify shit. I was wright about everything, and the people who were wrong about everything are in their own reality; they're either realize or they won't, but I don't feel I can do much to convince them, even if I wanted to. I don't need to justify anything; I'm very happy with my decision, and I don't regret it for a microsecond.
There is nothing to justify. Just say "Didn't want it."
Exactly. So why are you saying I'm justifying things by simply discussing them? I voice my opinions on lots of issues, am I justifying whatever topic we happen to be talking about, when I simply say what I think? I don't really get the argument. I've never been defensive or felt the need to justify my position on the vaccines and the mandates.
There was a Daily Mail piece today that stated myocarditis is a side-effect of Covid. Looks like they're all in full cover-up mode.
Edit: Here's the link if anyone wants to check it out.
Comments are calling them out. I bet they're even more so on the live article.
The Daily Mail generally has a based comment section.
Yes, because shitting on the Daily Mail is an Irish national past time at this point.
The article forgot one last phrase to end the sentence in the headline, "it's a good thing."
Big. The usual excuse for the heart attacks is "uh, covid causes heart damage." Australia has never had significant covid numbers.
Just need to wait a bit longer and the vax will fight the revolution for us by killing off the left.
I wish they'd just cut to the chase. They're not telling anyone why, they're giving cover to deny the one thing you can't talk about.
Diltiazem is in such short supply that my pharmacist said it would be a month before he got supplies again
Maybe 20-year-olds who were locked inside their homes for 2 years.
Plenty of 20-year-olds hid away inside even before the "pandemic," they still weren't having heart attacks like this. Weak take.
I'm sure 20-year-olds were always having heart attacks. Just because something is very uncommon, does not mean that it never happens.
I don't get how "not every heart failure is the result of the vbaccine" is "defending the pharmaceutical companies.
Nope. What I said still holds true. Get the vaccine if you're old or fat, or have weird conditions. Amazing how right I was, eh?
It is easier to fool a man than it is to convince him he has been made a fool of.
This "vaccine" has had what is perhaps the absolute worst efficacy to date for any vaccine available on the market. This is even when you compare it to the damn strain it was designed for, provided you actually analyze the result of the vaccine and not the clearly, and blatantly, falsified trials that they used.
What you just told them to do, is inject themselves with a poison that will, at best, do nothing of benefit for them. At worst it has the potential to outright kill them, and failing that, drastically alter their life for the worse.
2 years ago, I would have tentatively agreed with your statement, and even said as much back then. Repeating that statement as if nothing has changed is not just idiotic, it is malicious incompetence at best. You are telling people to inject themselves with poison. Period.
The data is now extremely available, both in terms of how garbage these "vaccines" were at doing there job, and at how dangerous they are. The only data we don't have, is whether or not they end up being excessively carcinogenic, and that is because it was physically impossible to perform such tests.
Correct. But don't think that it is just the establishment that is fooling people. The problem is that no one will feel ashamed of being fooled by the establishment. Those who were fooled by random blog posts, on the other hand, will feel massive amounts of cognitive dissonance.
Efficacy against what? Infection or death/servere disease?
At best, do nothing? Even in the worst-case scenario, it provides fair protection against death and hospitalization.
You just keep repeating the word 'poison' as if that establishes it. I think my advice has held up rather well.
I suspect that "the data" is cherrypicked and spun data. Basically, because you mistrust the establishment (as I do), you are very vulnerable to being manipulated by people who assert that the establishment has done something wrong.
Oh. You're one of those people. That was never the fucking claim, they lied about everything, and even the "protects against hospitalization/death" argument is falling apart. I love that language, too; "hospitalization and death," when they trot that out they're admitting it doesn't vaccinate at all.
Hahahahaha. I hadn't even gotten there when I wrote my earlier thing, that's great. Again, I don't even believe that; vaccinated people are being hospitalized at at least near the same rate, and it's been rising. There's often already more vaccinated people hospitalized than non-vaxxed although, yes, not per capita...yet, in most places. I suspect we will see a full reversal at some point, though, where even taking into account the number of people vaxxed versus unvaxxed, more vaxxed people will be hospitalized and dying. If it's not already happened; we know how screwy their counting is. For example, if you get your fourth booserino and keel over with the needle literally in your arm, you're unvaxxed, since it hasn't been two weeks yet.
The establishment is always doing something wrong, and we've already seen them do wrong about so many things surrounding the vaccine (data, mandates, studies, claims), I'd be absolutely shocked if they weren't also doing wrong with the vaccine itself.
So? What do you want me to say? That any heart attack is DEFINITELY BECAUSE OF THE VACCINE?
Very early on, it was clear that side-effects were worst in the young, and least bad in the old. So it becomes a perfect cost-benefit graph by age: benefits are greatest the older you are, and costs are lower the older you are. And if you're young, the benefits are very limited, and costs are highest.
If I tell a 80+, with something like a 10% fatality rate from Covid, that the vaccine is a good idea, I'm trying to kill him?
Even the 80+ group NEVER had a 10% Fatality Rate from covid. At worst, it was 1% based on the IFR, along with hospitals being financially incentivized to report every death as covid, but the press breathlessly reported the CFR so that retards like you would exaggerate the threat and defend the clotshots.
Of course not, don't be obtuse. We're talking averages. The rise in heart attacks in the young is due to the vaccine. That seems pretty dang clear cut.
According to who? The same people who lied to us about literally everything? Also, very early on we were told repeatedly that there were no side effects. And that it stopped transmission. And that it stopped symptoms and you wouldn't be hospitalized. And that it stopped variants. And so on.
I don't get how you can act like this is normal, when they've changed what the "vaccine" is supposed to do so many times. It's extreme gaslighting.
That may be true if the vaccine worked. It doesn't.
No, but it's probably terrible advice. For one thing, it's not 10% across the board, that still disproportionately affects the fat or otherwise unhealthy. Secondly, the vaccine doesn't even seem to work, and in fact lowers immune response after some time. So if that person is willing to go on a subscription service where they die if they stop taking it...maybe? Maybe it's right for them. Personally I'd still stay pureblood and roll the dice, even if I was ninety years old.
but you're not right at all. AT ALL
Show me.
In very specific circumstances, not in broad strokes like seems to be happening now. I'm talking preexisting conditions or birth defects, mainlining caffeine for days on end, stuff like that. Not just "died suddenly," which is now the leading cause of death in some regions.
Something has obviously changed, and we all know what it is.
So what precisely has changed, qua numbers? I only see people attributring deaths to the vaccine without even knowing if the person in question had taken it.
Please see this: https://mikecernovich.substack.com/p/died-suddenly-or-confirmation-bias
Yup, sometimes that's certainly the case. Here's the thing though, this is the absolute wrong thread to make that argument, since there are no specific people in question; no one is making the argument here that X person or Y public figure died from the vaccine. Deaths are up overall...and - according to official numbers, whatever those are worth - 97.4% of Australians (16+) had at least one dose, 96% had two doses, even 72.4% had three doses.
So, statistically, almost all of these people dying are vaccinated. So even if someone in this thread did pick at one random dead Aussie and say "this dude here that died suddenly was vaccinated"...they'd almost certainly be correct.
So, yeah, the people dying are vaccinated. Causation, correlation, whatever, that can all be argued. But they are vaccinated.
Those are crazy percentages. Honestly, had to double-check, because that is abnormally high. Australia is kookystan.
Most likely, but only in this case. My point is that people generally do not care to discover whether or not it was actually their pet political issue that led to this, even in other instances. You saw it today when they tried to claim that the Diamond lady died because of the vaccine, when evidence from their Twitter account shows that she almost certainly was not.
And yes, that they blame it on 'climate change' makes me think it's more likely that they are hiding something. Not necessarily the vaccines, as the media was also strongly in favor of the lockdowns. So it has to be something that they're against. The fact that all the people who argued that lockdowns are bad for people's health, now claim that any heart failure cannot have anything to do with them, also makes me suspicious of them.
We live in an Empire of Lies. I have no way of verifying anything that people say. Just because the media propagates lies, does not mean that the anti-media people necessarily tell the truth, or that they even have the competence to distinguish truth from falsehood. And I'd rather say "I don't know" than claim stuff that may well prove false.
No, overall. I'm not saying people don't jump to conclusions, but often times the people dropping dead are in some of the most highly vaxxed/mandated segments of the population so, again, it's often a fair assumption to link the death and the - even if assumed - vaccine. Maybe don't make definitive statements, sure, but I think it's more than fair to theorize, even if you don't know the person's vax status for sure.
Yes, they're definitely lying about something. I'd also argue it's incredibly suspicious that "unknown" cause of death is rapidly increasing, and no one is talking about it. That seems a huge fucking omission from the media, and there's got to be a reason.
I've seen this argument so much. I never saw anyone claiming young people would be dying of heart attacks due to the lockdowns. I certainly never claimed that. I did see claims we'd start seeing an increase in heart deaths among young people due to the vaccine, though. You're doing the same conflating of age ranges that contributed to screwy covid numbers. Now, are some of these heart attacks from lockdown? Absolutely. Are some from the vaccine? Absolutely. And probably almost all of the heart attacks in the young are vaccine-related. Not all, but most.
I get that. But you don't seem to be saying "I don't know," you're still believing claims that weren't even the initial claims. We've already stumbled down so many steps from "prevents transmission," that it's laughable.
Which?
Of course. This has been known for years now. It doesn't follow from that, that every heart failure is a result of the mRNA shots.
There's no getting through to people. They're as unreasonable as the folks who think babies should get the vaccine.
Well, you talked about one 'retarded decision'. Anyone should wish that his retarded decisions in life can be described using the singular.
So here's what I don't get: your obsession with trying to justify your own decision. Suppose that all these heart attacks are the result of taking the vaccine. You didn't, so why are you so concerned about it? Covid is done anyway.
Or is this because in Murica your leftists still pretend that it's a big deal?
It didn't take long for your true nature to show.
And yet you sound very defensive. As if you are replying to someone criticizing you for not taking it.
Genociding a few generations? You still believe that is a possibility? Or are you criticizing the immediate mandating of these vaccines after only cursory testing? The first would make you an absolute lunatic, the second is a reasonable point.
It depends on your age.
I disagree completely. I have no respect for people who allowed governments to force them to take it. But those who took it for their own health, sure.
Do you have to be 'pro-vax' or 'anti-vax', and not just someone with common sense?
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Seriously?
You're not fighting and dying in Ukraine, why should you care? Inflation isn't literally killing you, why should you care? You weren't geocided in [choose your genocide], what's the issue? You're not being sent to the camps, why should you care? You're not Canadian, why should you care what's happening there? Your children weren't groomed, why do you care?
A great evil has been done, but doesn't directly affect you (even if you have family and friends it does affect)...why are you so obsessed with talking about it?
You're a smart guy on many things...but this was an absolute brainlet take. Like (hopefully) peak brainlet.
"You didn't take the jab, so why do you care?"
I mean Tony is a leftist, of course he's a brainlet when it comes to the left's most sacred and holy belief, Safe and Effective.
he's obviously FITH
Same reason I care about US politics: because it does affect me. Inflation is wrecking everyone's life, billions of our money are sent to a corrupt puppet non-country, and we live once again in the shadow of nuclear war.
There is no evidence of a 'great evil'. I suspect that people who do try to portray it as such are interested in self-justification. It's as if they're always talking to some leftist berating them for not taking the vaccine. But here's the thing. There is nothing to justify. Just say "Didn't want it."
Insofar as there was great evil, that was the attempt to force vaccines on people. That would be true even if the vaccines had no side-effects and only had benefits.
And I have friends, family, neighbors, and the like who were forced to take something that now means they're more at risk for death; that does affect me. But even if it wasn't so direct, different death trends in humans affects everyone.
I don't need to justify shit. I was wright about everything, and the people who were wrong about everything are in their own reality; they're either realize or they won't, but I don't feel I can do much to convince them, even if I wanted to. I don't need to justify anything; I'm very happy with my decision, and I don't regret it for a microsecond.
Exactly. So why are you saying I'm justifying things by simply discussing them? I voice my opinions on lots of issues, am I justifying whatever topic we happen to be talking about, when I simply say what I think? I don't really get the argument. I've never been defensive or felt the need to justify my position on the vaccines and the mandates.