Lots of Tate topics but I thought I'd share a story of a coworker I worked with who committed suicide after being accused of human trafficking.
He met a girl on some sugar baby website. The girl offered sex for money. He agreed. The guy was some 30yo professional making $200k/yr+ and of course, like all men, had issues with dating/women so whores were a better option for him.
One day he met up with the girl to fuck at a hotel and the girl asked if he'd be willing to pay more if she brought a friend. It's extremely common for working girls to pair up with other girls and do this very thing to make more money. He agreed. Unfortunately, unbeknownst to him, the second girl was 16yo and was in fact being trafficked by the woman. The hotel staff suspected something when the two girls arrived at the hotel and called the cops. The cops came and bused him and the girls. They already had a file on the woman but the woman made a statement that blamed this guy for everything. Completely made it up about him pressuring her, asking her to find younger girls for him etc... 100% lies but she felt that was her best way to get out of it.
He was charged with human trafficking. I guess the shame got to him though and he jumped off the skyscraper he worked at. What's interesting is whenever I tell women this story, they still think the guy is a terrible person. He's really just some nerdy professional guy that wanted to have sex with hot women, that's all. Can't fault a man for wanting this, it's literally what all men want. I guess women just hate it when men get what they want, like Andrew Tate.
"guy just wanted to pay some jailbait chicks for sex, what's the biggie, man?"
everyone involved here is retarded and doesn't deserve civilization. "get what they want"? all men just wanna pay to have sex with vapid whores and degenerate the community they live in until it falls apart?
maybe you do, jackass. the fact that the guy offed himself before even being convicted of anything should be rather telling.
I agree, he likely wouldn't have been convicted but what do you think even the charge of such does to a nerdy professional guy. How will his family see him, anyone else who does? I mean, it was in the newspapers about his arrest and charge etc... The guy probably felt his life was ruined. Most people I talk to agree he likely would have won and maybe got some minor charges regarding paying for sex and potentially paying for sex with a minor (potentially) but even those charges in his profession would have meant bye-bye to his career etc... From his perspective, his life was over.
I think you underestimate how fair the justice system is. Even if he sufficiently proves it was all the girl's idea, the fact he had money on him, she was in the hotel room with him means he likely would be automatically convicted with paying to have sex with a minor even if no sex happened. The laws are not actually as fair as you think they are. They're designed to make convictions easy not for justice.
I think you underestimate how fair the justice system is.
You mean overestimate.
The laws are not actually as fair as you think they are. They're designed to make convictions easy not for justice.
That's not true. Laws are designed to maximize justice, evolved to avoid the death that happens without a justice system. Your friend jumped to conclusions. Then again, the wages of sin are death. Nothing good was ever going to happen from paying for fornication.
I mean, it was in the newspapers about his arrest and charge etc...
I'm quite annoyed with how in most places in Europe, the names of criminals are withheld even after conviction, but I am really happy that the names of suspects are not released.
Most people I talk to agree he likely would have won and maybe got some minor charges regarding paying for sex and potentially paying for sex with a minor (potentially) but even those charges in his profession would have meant bye-bye to his career etc... From his perspective, his life was over.
But I am sure it was not. You may not be able to imagine how you life will get on track, but most likely it would have. Actual child rapists have their lives get on track again, but someone who wasn't even guilty wouldn't have?
Of course, you think it's over, but that's just a product of your limited perspective and imagination. All the more reason not to kill yourself when at your lowest low (and things can only get better from there).
I think you underestimate how fair the justice system is.
If it's not political, I have a fair degree of confidence in the protections of the justice system. Especially if you have money.
Even if he sufficiently proves it was all the girl's idea, the fact he had money on him, she was in the hotel room with him means he likely would be automatically convicted with paying to have sex with a minor even if no sex happened.
Mens rea would be lacking, unless the prosecution were to establish that given the fact that he was engaging in illegal activity, he took the risk that something like this would happen.
The laws are not actually as fair as you think they are.
"The laws" are the will of the powerful.
They're designed to make convictions easy not for justice.
Agreed, but some judicial practices are more to blame for that then the laws of themselves.
Sex offender and ruining the rest of his life? Yes.
That's what happened to the creator of a company that was trying help people create 3D printed guns. Reeked of a honeypot the whole time, but he picked up a girl on a sugar daddy website who was underage and he nor the site knew it.
Lots of Tate topics but I thought I'd share a story of a coworker I worked with who committed suicide after being accused of human trafficking.
He met a girl on some sugar baby website. The girl offered sex for money. He agreed. The guy was some 30yo professional making $200k/yr+ and of course, like all men, had issues with dating/women so whores were a better option for him.
One day he met up with the girl to fuck at a hotel and the girl asked if he'd be willing to pay more if she brought a friend. It's extremely common for working girls to pair up with other girls and do this very thing to make more money. He agreed. Unfortunately, unbeknownst to him, the second girl was 16yo and was in fact being trafficked by the woman. The hotel staff suspected something when the two girls arrived at the hotel and called the cops. The cops came and bused him and the girls. They already had a file on the woman but the woman made a statement that blamed this guy for everything. Completely made it up about him pressuring her, asking her to find younger girls for him etc... 100% lies but she felt that was her best way to get out of it.
He was charged with human trafficking. I guess the shame got to him though and he jumped off the skyscraper he worked at. What's interesting is whenever I tell women this story, they still think the guy is a terrible person. He's really just some nerdy professional guy that wanted to have sex with hot women, that's all. Can't fault a man for wanting this, it's literally what all men want. I guess women just hate it when men get what they want, like Andrew Tate.
"guy just wanted to pay some jailbait chicks for sex, what's the biggie, man?"
everyone involved here is retarded and doesn't deserve civilization. "get what they want"? all men just wanna pay to have sex with vapid whores and degenerate the community they live in until it falls apart?
maybe you do, jackass. the fact that the guy offed himself before even being convicted of anything should be rather telling.
The first girl was of age, and he didn't know the other girl was 16.
Feels not fax!!!
If any of this is true, there is no way the guy would actually be convicted of human trafficking.
I agree, he likely wouldn't have been convicted but what do you think even the charge of such does to a nerdy professional guy. How will his family see him, anyone else who does? I mean, it was in the newspapers about his arrest and charge etc... The guy probably felt his life was ruined. Most people I talk to agree he likely would have won and maybe got some minor charges regarding paying for sex and potentially paying for sex with a minor (potentially) but even those charges in his profession would have meant bye-bye to his career etc... From his perspective, his life was over.
I think you underestimate how fair the justice system is. Even if he sufficiently proves it was all the girl's idea, the fact he had money on him, she was in the hotel room with him means he likely would be automatically convicted with paying to have sex with a minor even if no sex happened. The laws are not actually as fair as you think they are. They're designed to make convictions easy not for justice.
You mean overestimate.
That's not true. Laws are designed to maximize justice, evolved to avoid the death that happens without a justice system. Your friend jumped to conclusions. Then again, the wages of sin are death. Nothing good was ever going to happen from paying for fornication.
Hahaha. Good one.
Mouth breather name certainly checks out
I have been charged with crimes and never convicted (because I didn't fucking do them). Never felt the need to jump off a building but IDK
I'm quite annoyed with how in most places in Europe, the names of criminals are withheld even after conviction, but I am really happy that the names of suspects are not released.
But I am sure it was not. You may not be able to imagine how you life will get on track, but most likely it would have. Actual child rapists have their lives get on track again, but someone who wasn't even guilty wouldn't have?
Of course, you think it's over, but that's just a product of your limited perspective and imagination. All the more reason not to kill yourself when at your lowest low (and things can only get better from there).
If it's not political, I have a fair degree of confidence in the protections of the justice system. Especially if you have money.
Mens rea would be lacking, unless the prosecution were to establish that given the fact that he was engaging in illegal activity, he took the risk that something like this would happen.
"The laws" are the will of the powerful.
Agreed, but some judicial practices are more to blame for that then the laws of themselves.
Human trafficking? No.
Sex offender and ruining the rest of his life? Yes.
That's what happened to the creator of a company that was trying help people create 3D printed guns. Reeked of a honeypot the whole time, but he picked up a girl on a sugar daddy website who was underage and he nor the site knew it.