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Arch: Diversity Has Killed Fantasy (www.youtube.com)
posted 3 years ago by Erithal 3 years ago by Erithal +36 / -0
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– cartoonericroberts 34 points 3 years ago +34 / -0

Every western fantasy movie trailer looks like downtown London.

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– TomSeeSaw 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Next on Londonistan-flix: Praying to the moon god 5 times a day, and letting GOAT blood flow.

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– MLGS 30 points 3 years ago +30 / -0

Diverse folx never wrote down their own stories so they're definitely not going to be good at telling ours.

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– Smith1980 15 points 3 years ago +15 / -0

Honestly if they wrote an original story it would most likely be garbage but I could respect that they didn’t ruin someone else’s work with the “reflect a modern audience” crap. Myths/legends/folklore are all over the world they could work with. I grew up in Oklahoma and there is a lot of Native American history we learned in school and had speakers from different Tribes come talk to us. Some told us legends of their tribes. I could concoct a story based on what I remember. So they could as well.

I’m just so tired of people who most likely never read the source material demanding changes and ruining it.

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– yamez 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Things Fall Apart, No Longer at Ease, and The Arrow of God are pretty good. They didn't convince me to respect africans, but the story is good.

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– Smith1980 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Thanks! I’ll check them out

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– Smith1980 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

I could’ve predicted this. Considering the vast majority of fantasy writers are European or of European descent and medieval Europe/mythology has a huge influence I would expect to see a lot of white people in fantasy. So the people whining about it are imbeciles. I’ve been downvoted on Reddit when I was on there more often for suggesting people who whine about diversity should create their own fantasy. The world is full of legends/myth/folklore, by all means adapt one of those or write a modern fantasy or write your own woke fantasies but stop crapping on the work of better authors. I would’ve loved a faithful Wheel of Time adaptation but that ain’t happening.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

You know what I hate about this all the most? They only care to put minorities in instead of using the in universe diversity to tell their stories. And no, I do not mean black Hobbits. Perfect example to me is Star Wars, the Disney shit almost always has mostly humans as MCs, aliens get a small look if at all. I've noticed this as I was waking up to how shit it all is(sitting in the cinema watching TLJ, painful wakeup call). You got this universe with tons of races in it yet you only go for humans and unlike when Lucas was helming it they didn't even have any in speaking rolls(tbf, the original trilogy did not have any aliens as MCs).

LOTR did it amazingly, you even have a human, a dwarf and an elf working together with tons of different pov characters like the Hobbits etc. They were also not real life diversity aka all black people. Rings of power uses the same idea but makes it about real life, we gotta have more black people.

This is what's been bothering me with fantasy, especially in series etc. They claim diversity yet when it comes to in universe they couldn't give a shit.

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– Smith1980 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Why you should never hire activists masquerading as writers. But so many tv series today start with diversity and work from there

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– 8BitArchitect 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

tbf, the original trilogy did not have any aliens as MCs

That might be underselling Chewbacca a bit, and R2 and 3PO certainly qualify as "main characters", even if they're droids, not aliens.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

I was thinking more as the MAIN lead but yes, you are 100% correct, thanks for calling that out.

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– Erithal [S] 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

Arch's take on what diversity has done to Fantasy as a genre.

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– PraiseBeToScience 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

Holy shit this might be the most annoying person I've ever heard on YouTube. What is with the incredibly bad,fake accent and trying to sound like a British aristocrat recounting his safari in the 1930s? Is this faggot trying to LARP as a Charles Dickens YouTuber? I had to put it on 1.5x speed just to get him to talk at a normal cadence without long dramatic pauses while he winds up to mispronounce a word like "candelabra".

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– Erithal [S] 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

If goddamn fantasy casting didn't look like a safari into deepest London, then I also might be more annoyed by what you're talking about. As it stands, 'sounding like a narration of a colonial safari' strikes me as an oddly appropriate tone for a fantasy post-mortem.

Fair point, though.

English is Arch's second language and that shows in his presentation.

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– censorthisss 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Seriously. I couldn't make it 30 seconds let alone 22 fucking minutes.

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– almond_activator 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

It's why I don't follow Arch, Vee, and a bunch of other content creators I generally find interesting/aligned - I simply lack the ability to tolerate voices I find annoying.

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