If the past two years have taught us anything, it's that you don't trust anyone putting something in you that you don't absolutely need to stay alive, especially if they claim without reputable evidence that you need it to survive.
Sure, I'd love to have certain GitS cybernetics. And then I look at the episode where Togusa's old cop buddy dies trying to pass along information by having his eyes TURNED OFF WHILE DRIVING.
Yeah many people will buy into transhumanism same as the vaxx. And people who refuse will become vilified. Some people think vaccines in general are a step towards transhumanism too, getting the human body adjusted to metals like aluminum. I recently learned that the "chemtrails" stuff is also all about them putting aluminum into the atmosphere from this documentary.
So no matter what they're pushing forwards with it, regardless of "consent" or legality.
Worship? I merely get entertained. The idolization left me in 2016, as I saw that YES ALL ACTORS are scumbags.
Also, considering what he just did with "COVID warnings," I'm willing to trust to a point that he would not simply turn around and do the same thing for his pet project.
Yeah, I'm not an Elon fanboi. He's looking for allies to deal with the Biden administration, and the corporate Left who've been turning on him very hard.
Elon is doing this for Elon, it just benefits us for now. I'll take the wins I can take.
To be honest, the government especially deep state have had this for decades, this is just the public version of it.
I disagree with Elon on this but that's it, he ain't forcing people to do it unlike the government and vaccines, he'll just be the fall guy if they suddenly 'need' everyone to get chips in their heads. The only good thing is when hackers get a hold of it that'll probably fuck over the government drones really quickly.
what about all of the people that want to be cattle, to sit on welfare their entire existence, to contribute nothing? shouldn't we just give them what they want? they want to be slaves and scientific experiment test subjects.
Transhumanism results in the total eradication of what it means to be a human being.
The advancement of transhumanism allows for the authoritarian state to control any individual in frighteningly new ways. Even your thoughts will no longer be private. This is the pure rational argument against transhumanism.
The religious argument against transhumanism is that the fusion of man and machine is an unholy marriage that spits in the face of God. If man is made in God's image then altering that image fundamentally is the greatest violation against our Creator.
The religious argument is worthless, as are all arguments that stem from argument from authority.
The totalitarian argument is not relevant because advertisement exists. Your mind is controllable without putting a chip in it. A-B testing and pharmacology are improving their methods. Would it be faster with brainchips? Sure, but it will happen regardless.
It ultimately is a matter of survival. Those that adopt greater technology faster will out preform those that do not. Even if the West does not pursue this path China will. Either we adopt eugenics or transhumanism or we cease being relevant and go the way of the Amish, locked in small irrelevant communities that none-the-less have to bow to those with power.
Humanity being enslaved under transhumanism is not the only way for humanity to survive.
You fail to grasp what transhumanism really means.
If humanity's only path to survival is everyone becoming a automaton connected to other automatons, what is the point of survival?
Humanity has survived for millennia without transhumanism.
You are also delusional if you think China will succeed in advancing transhumanism in the scenario where the U.S. does not head on the path to transhumanism.
China has a culture of conformity not innovation.
They have not made any large scientific advancements in the last century. They constantly steal intellectual property from the U.S.
The totalitarian argument is not relevant because advertisement exists. Your mind is controllable without putting a chip in it. A-B testing and pharmacology are improving their methods.
I don't disagree that cybernetic enhancements are inevitable, and I'm not strongly for or against, but this doesn't make his argument irrelevant. Pushing for minimizing or having less of "Bad Thing" is a valid tactic even if some "Bad Thing" is unavoidable. It's like arguing you shouldn't build a wall at the border because illegal immigrants are going to get in anyway, through other means. Perhaps he wants to live in little Amish communities free of totalitarians, and protect that lifestyle for as long as possible.
I agree that Transhumanism isn't evil per say. It can be used for evil though, like a lot of stuff.
There's also lot more ways forward than you imply. Technological progression internal and external. Biological progression, internal and external. As well as status quo and regression, although those aren't viable long-term.
There's also lot more ways forward than you imply. Technological progression internal and external. Biological progression, internal and external. As well as status quo and regression, although those aren't viable long-term.
I covered all of those possibilities. Technological progression without advancing humans is either AI abandoning humanity (ceasing to exist) or transhumanism. Biological progression is, I suppose, more than just eugenics, but the ethical "concerns" are much the same. The status quo or regression are the same as annihilation. Without additional tech we cannot leave Earth. Not leaving Earth will inevitably result in Human extinction, by some method, over some timescale.
The major issue is that there is no way to stop technological advancement. Thus the side that has more Luddites loses. They cease to be relevant and those that embrace transhumanism or eugenics survive. I would prefer that the people like me survive.
If the past two years have taught us anything, it's that you don't trust anyone putting something in you that you don't absolutely need to stay alive, especially if they claim without reputable evidence that you need it to survive.
Sure, I'd love to have certain GitS cybernetics. And then I look at the episode where Togusa's old cop buddy dies trying to pass along information by having his eyes TURNED OFF WHILE DRIVING.
Yeah many people will buy into transhumanism same as the vaxx. And people who refuse will become vilified. Some people think vaccines in general are a step towards transhumanism too, getting the human body adjusted to metals like aluminum. I recently learned that the "chemtrails" stuff is also all about them putting aluminum into the atmosphere from this documentary.
So no matter what they're pushing forwards with it, regardless of "consent" or legality.
How long before Elon Musk starts putting context disclaimers on any negative tweet about Neuralink saying Neuralink is safe and effective?
The right has a general problem where so many of us idolize and hero-worship any celebrity that even agrees with a few views of ours.
Elon is useful for promoting free speech but his Neuralink business is something to be wary of.
Worship? I merely get entertained. The idolization left me in 2016, as I saw that YES ALL ACTORS are scumbags.
Also, considering what he just did with "COVID warnings," I'm willing to trust to a point that he would not simply turn around and do the same thing for his pet project.
Yeah, I'm not an Elon fanboi. He's looking for allies to deal with the Biden administration, and the corporate Left who've been turning on him very hard.
Elon is doing this for Elon, it just benefits us for now. I'll take the wins I can take.
Kahn Nunien Singh will come true.
To be honest, the government especially deep state have had this for decades, this is just the public version of it.
I disagree with Elon on this but that's it, he ain't forcing people to do it unlike the government and vaccines, he'll just be the fall guy if they suddenly 'need' everyone to get chips in their heads. The only good thing is when hackers get a hold of it that'll probably fuck over the government drones really quickly.
Neuralink is for people with serious neurological conditions, not the average person.
This is how transhumanism starts.
It starts out being only geared to heal people with disabilities and then Musk will move forward to augmenting human capabilities.
We are on the dangerous road to the dystopian world of Deus Ex or Cyberpunk.
"What a shame..."
what about all of the people that want to be cattle, to sit on welfare their entire existence, to contribute nothing? shouldn't we just give them what they want? they want to be slaves and scientific experiment test subjects.
aligns with ADL and Schwab in every single key point
if he's not their guy, the sky is not blue
Why is transhumanism evil?
There are three roads that lead forward:
We merge with the computers. (transhumanism)
We engage in extreme eugenics to stay ahead of the computers. (facisim)
We cease to exist. (luddism)
Transhumanism results in the total eradication of what it means to be a human being.
The advancement of transhumanism allows for the authoritarian state to control any individual in frighteningly new ways. Even your thoughts will no longer be private. This is the pure rational argument against transhumanism.
The religious argument against transhumanism is that the fusion of man and machine is an unholy marriage that spits in the face of God. If man is made in God's image then altering that image fundamentally is the greatest violation against our Creator.
The religious argument is worthless, as are all arguments that stem from argument from authority.
The totalitarian argument is not relevant because advertisement exists. Your mind is controllable without putting a chip in it. A-B testing and pharmacology are improving their methods. Would it be faster with brainchips? Sure, but it will happen regardless.
It ultimately is a matter of survival. Those that adopt greater technology faster will out preform those that do not. Even if the West does not pursue this path China will. Either we adopt eugenics or transhumanism or we cease being relevant and go the way of the Amish, locked in small irrelevant communities that none-the-less have to bow to those with power.
Humanity being enslaved under transhumanism is not the only way for humanity to survive.
You fail to grasp what transhumanism really means.
If humanity's only path to survival is everyone becoming a automaton connected to other automatons, what is the point of survival?
Humanity has survived for millennia without transhumanism.
You are also delusional if you think China will succeed in advancing transhumanism in the scenario where the U.S. does not head on the path to transhumanism.
China has a culture of conformity not innovation.
They have not made any large scientific advancements in the last century. They constantly steal intellectual property from the U.S.
I don't disagree that cybernetic enhancements are inevitable, and I'm not strongly for or against, but this doesn't make his argument irrelevant. Pushing for minimizing or having less of "Bad Thing" is a valid tactic even if some "Bad Thing" is unavoidable. It's like arguing you shouldn't build a wall at the border because illegal immigrants are going to get in anyway, through other means. Perhaps he wants to live in little Amish communities free of totalitarians, and protect that lifestyle for as long as possible.
I agree that Transhumanism isn't evil per say. It can be used for evil though, like a lot of stuff.
There's also lot more ways forward than you imply. Technological progression internal and external. Biological progression, internal and external. As well as status quo and regression, although those aren't viable long-term.
I covered all of those possibilities. Technological progression without advancing humans is either AI abandoning humanity (ceasing to exist) or transhumanism. Biological progression is, I suppose, more than just eugenics, but the ethical "concerns" are much the same. The status quo or regression are the same as annihilation. Without additional tech we cannot leave Earth. Not leaving Earth will inevitably result in Human extinction, by some method, over some timescale.
The major issue is that there is no way to stop technological advancement. Thus the side that has more Luddites loses. They cease to be relevant and those that embrace transhumanism or eugenics survive. I would prefer that the people like me survive.