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This seems like an appropriate response (media.scored.co)
posted 2 years ago by user20461 2 years ago by user20461 +81 / -2
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– JuliasEbola00 36 points 2 years ago +38 / -2

I've noticed that a lot of the defenders of the J walkers are getting very irritate recently. I've seen several of them lashing out in the last few days, which is something they don't do to the other side. People who are usually calm are becoming very emotional, because deep down I think that they know the other side is right, but they've invested so much in defending them and aren't ready to let it go just yet, so there's a great inner conflict at play.

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– marvinthehaggler 27 points 2 years ago +29 / -2

J walkers.

I am laughing out loud.

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– -Fender- 3 points 2 years ago +4 / -1

I don't get it. What does "J" stand for? "Jew" or "Jordan"? Also, is it a reference to South Park referring to Kyle the shifty jew as a "day walker" because "day" rhymes with the English pronunciation of "J", or is it because "J walker" sounds like the trite crime of being a "jaywalker"?

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– marvinthehaggler 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

Sounds like you do get it.

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– AgnosticTemplar 25 points 2 years ago +27 / -2

Especially here. Seems like an awful lot of Gamergaters are stuck in the tutorial and taking potshots at dangerhairs and ignoring the final boss.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 23 points 2 years ago +23 / -0

Half-KiA are the worst with that. It's still 2014 over there but without the upside of doing ops. There's still a bunch of virtue signaling over how much they love "diversity done right."

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– Gizortnik -3 points 2 years ago +4 / -7

It's also possible that a fifth column of Leftists are trying to channelize everyone else into the easiest possible target to hit. "Look, it's okay, just say that the Left is right about you and that you're a Nazi tee hee".

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– AgnosticTemplar 12 points 2 years ago +12 / -0

Maybe, but I doubt that. Seems like it would be a strategic blunder to normalize the jewish question. Especially among blacks.

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– Gizortnik 3 points 2 years ago +8 / -5

Blacks haven't stopped asking the JQ in 50 years, that's why the entire issue hurts Kanye with white people only.

But this whole sequence of events has really soured me on if the alt-right can be trusted in any regard. It seems like they are operating as a fifth column to destroy populism entirely. As if the Left realized that they can't have David Koch come in and butcher the Tea Party, so they need to have people come in and kill the populist movement by associating it with unpalatable things.

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... continue reading thread?
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– ApexVeritas 14 points 2 years ago +14 / -0

Jordan Peterson himself has taught about the psychology of people, and specifically about when you challenge someone's core beliefs, their worldview, they lash out at the challenger as if they'd been physically attacked. He calls it the lizard brain.

I've seen this myself, repeatedly, because I insist on challenging people and their ideas, and my own, through rigorous debate. I'm sure most here have seen it too. Through challenge, truth emerges. When someone's worldview becomes tarnished by that challenge, when cracks begin to show, that they're wrong in part or total, the immediate response is denial, doubling down, and logically fallacious attacks (most commonly in ad hominem form) against the challenger. It's a denial of their own humanity, that we're mortal, finite, imperfect, and have free will. We can't know everything, and we must each acknowledge that we could be and probably are wrong about some things, in nuance or total, and what what we don't know can drastically reshape what we think we already know, giving it new context. People must be strong in convictions, so they can accomplish, but open to the possibility of being wrong, and be able to change if so.

Denial of truth means such people place themselves above truth, which must be our highest priority, or we will surely fail and die. Denial of this means such people proclaim themselves to be God, that they can't be wrong. Again, it's a denial of their own humanity.

What happens after can vary. People can, and often do, remain in denial, and would rather die than change their minds, even though they're free to do so. They treat their lies and falsehoods like an anchor, letting it drown them. This is common in nature, and humanity, however. In the 3 ways of conflict resolution, this is called isolation (the other two being good debate and violence), where the disagreeing parties isolate themselves and succeed or fail based on their own merit.

Still, I cling to the hope that some people, many I hope, if they're truly good, can eventually change their minds. I hope they can self reflect, self doubt, question, even of themselves, and be curious, think, and learn. Surely there must be people like this, yet appear silent from the outside, perhaps in contemplation, because public discourse changes as new information comes to light. I'm one of them. My views and ideas have changed over the decades, some radically, and even recently foundational views have been slightly altered to reflect nuanced new trains of thought.

If these people don't exist, that no one, or very few, are capable of changing their minds, then the only solution left is terrible. Good debate, to search for truth, is made impossible. That only leaves violence. It's either carried out by tribal warfare, or by nature itself, killing off the stupid.

As censorship and globalist curation of information dwindles, as true free speech sites increase, and the propaganda made more apparent, we're going to see how a great many people really are. Are they capable of free will and understand their humanity, and prioritize truth, or do they deny all of it.

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– novanleon 1 point 2 years ago +3 / -2

Sure, people tend to over-react when you criticize Jews. They also do the same when you criticize any other race except white people. JP's "messages" in these videos are to followers of particular religions, not racial groups, so the assumptions by @buttcanbandit aren't even logical.

As for your question of why people oppose the "Jewish Conspiracy" narrative...

I can't speak for others, but I see most anti-Jewish racism as stemming from the same sort of identity politics that the Left so masterfully wields. In-fact, the far-right and far-left have more in common than either side wants to admit. The disdain I have for people who support this anti-Jewish narrative is the same disdain I have for the Left.

Identity politics takes the side of collectivism in the collectivism vs. individualism debate. Identity politics is the process of picking and choosing characteristics of individuals, grouping them together based on those characteristics, and building a positive or negative narrative around them for political reasons. The root of this mindset is viewing people as members of a collective rather than as individuals.

It's perfectly find to recognize differences such as patterns of behavior between groups of people but treating people as members of a collective is immoral and creates problems not just for the individuals in question but for society as a whole. The irrationality of many of these identity politics arguments aside, this mistreatment of people that causes significant damage to society is why I disdain identity politics on both sides.

FYI: I'm sure this comment will HUGELY popular on this board and will be showered with upvotes the moment it's posted.

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– SR388-SAX 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

I can't speak for others, but I see most anti-Jewish racism as stemming from the same sort of identity politics that the Left so masterfully wields.

I'd argue that it's a direct result of the left's identity politics.

"The banks are screwing us."

"That's anti-Semitic!"

"George Soros is an evil man."

"That's anti-Semitic!"

"All these rootless globalist cosmopolitans are really fucking everything up."

"That's anti-Semitic!"

"Guess I might as well be anti-Semitic then, because apparently the Jews are behind everything."

I just wish, just once, that a prominent Jewish person would come out and say, "yeah, there's some pretty fucking corrupt Jews. The ones involved in screwing Ye over should knock it off." Instead it's a lockstep "anti-Semitism bad!" chorus. I had to skip through most of Rubin's show because I'm sick of it.

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– smashyawaro 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Think of how sacred the Holocaust is to non Jews, then realize what it means to Jews. They've been fully indoctrinated since birth that anything that could even been seen as a stepping stone to a stepping stone is, in fact, a concrete path to the next Holocaust, which is why they will lash out at anything that could have the faint possibility of being antisemitic.

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– novanleon 1 point 2 years ago +3 / -2

Yes, some of it is definitely reactionary. It's sad to see so many people on the right foolishly adopting their own version of identity politics as a response to the left's identity politics.

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– yvaN_ehT_nioJ 2 points 2 years ago +4 / -2

My whole thing with the "Jewish Conspiracy" is that its proponents act as if Jews are part of some Illuminati-like organization, acting in concert to enslave the goyim. It's undeniable they're disproportionately present in positions of power but it doesn't follow, to me, that they're acting to some end for the Jewish race according to some centuries long plan or what have you.

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– novanleon 1 point 2 years ago +3 / -2

Same here. I just can't see past the logical leap required to jump from observing a pattern and believing in some kind of global conspiracy.

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– Assassin47 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Why do you think disproportionately present in positions of power? I mean how did they accomplish that.

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Horseshoe Theory Israel

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– Assassin47 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

the assumptions by @buttcanbandit

He said religions.

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– novanleon 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

He doesn't care about religion. He cares about the Jewish people and their supposed global conspiracy. He's implying that the "Jewish conspiracy" has JP too afraid to criticize Judaism. He's trolling.

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