To be fair, they were going to do that regardless. Look at states where the left is in total control - like here in California. Even in those places - where they should be bearing sole blame when shit goes south - they still manage to pass it off onto the right.
This is the power of having control of the media/internet companies. You own the narrative. You get to decide what the idiots on the left, and a lot of those in the middle, view as reality.
TLDR: It doesn't matter if they let the GOP have the house. The media/internet companies will see to it that the blame for whatever suffering comes from their policies is put on Trump/the GOP.
For sure. As I said when we were talking about this the other day a Republican Speaker with a governing nightmare on his hands is far preferable to a Pelosi Speakership, simply because the Dem's party discipline means that they can keep this Biden disaster going even with a very narrow majority. Don't expect anything good to happen in the next 2 years but at least the horrors will (mostly) stop.
Actually, initial reports that I saw are that most of the House GOP (including a lot of the newcomers) are leaning toward Scalise rather than McCarthy to be Speaker.
Which I think would be a good choice. He is kind of in the same vein as Cruz and Rubio as sort of "MAGA Missing Link". Where they were/are Neo-Con types, but they have enough political intuition to see where the wind is blowing and ride it to their own power by following the waves. He has also generally been pretty good at call out the Left and the Media for their bullshit and knows better than to let his guard down around them (I am sure being shot and nearly killed by a raging Leftoid has nothing to do with that).
Good to know. Scalise I still think would have been the better choice, but McCarthy is....not terrible I guess? He is more steadfast than McConnell, but he does waffle a bit too much for my taste.
My impression of him is that he's just doing his best to balance competing factions in his caucus. He's not doing great on that front, but it's hard to imagine anyone else doing much better. He's an improvement over perennial bitch boy Paul Ryan, which is admittedly damning with faint praise. He's not actively sabotaging us like McConnell, so there's that as well.
Interesting. I haven't followed the leadership stuff too closely because I didn't think they would let the Republicans take the House. I did see that McCarthy just won the leadership election, but of course he needs a majority of the full House to become Speaker. The 31 votes against him are more than enough to sink him, but openly colluding with the Dems is a different beast than an internal Republican squabble.
Like the other comment said (and I guess my initial info was wrong or unclear on), it looks like McCarthy will be Speaker and Scalise will be Majority Leader. Like I said, not great, but it could be much worse. The House at least has less RINO's in it than the Senate, so I think them playing obstruction will be fine for the next few years.
They probably wanted Republicals to win very narrowly. Republicans get blamed for nothing getting done, they have no actual legislative power because getting all but one or two members unanimous is near impossible especially in this post-modern world of blackmail politics.
And it gives Democrats a defense for cheating, 'if we're such cheaters how come we didn't win the house?'.
The only thing Republicans really get is control of the committees, but Democrats don't care about any investigations because they'll just have the media refuse to cover it. Rand Paul getting the goods on Fauci will just be singing to the choir, nobody's going to cover it on the left.
Well of course they won it with a slim majority, if they didn't win a slim majority, there might have been actual pressure to change leadership in the Republican party and the Democrats would have lost their willing collaborators.
I'm going to state this, the midterms were a trap designed to do two things, damage Trump's reputation before a presidential run and demoralise his support.
And allow the Dems to blame the GOP in 2024 for the state of the economy because even if the RINOs bend over and pull their cheeks apart for the Biden admin (they will) they'll still be blamed for whatever new crops up
Except they can't, not really. The only people who are going to buy that a 1 seat majority is to blame for anything are the democrats base and they believed it was Republicans fault when the dems had both houses anyway.
They needed to lose big time for normies to swallow that narrative.
Now let's all laugh as they continuously betray America by "reaching across the aisle" in support of "common sense legislation".
gay marriage has already entered the chat
When Pelosi hands McCarthy the gavel he should make his joke a reality and beat her over the head with it.
I told you the Dems would let the Republicans take the House narrowly so they can blame the incoming economic depression on them.
To be fair, they were going to do that regardless. Look at states where the left is in total control - like here in California. Even in those places - where they should be bearing sole blame when shit goes south - they still manage to pass it off onto the right.
This is the power of having control of the media/internet companies. You own the narrative. You get to decide what the idiots on the left, and a lot of those in the middle, view as reality.
TLDR: It doesn't matter if they let the GOP have the house. The media/internet companies will see to it that the blame for whatever suffering comes from their policies is put on Trump/the GOP.
And you were right. I'm man enough to admit when my predictions don't come true.
I am not trying to rub it in or anything.
I am just glad Pelosi won't have the gavel.
For sure. As I said when we were talking about this the other day a Republican Speaker with a governing nightmare on his hands is far preferable to a Pelosi Speakership, simply because the Dem's party discipline means that they can keep this Biden disaster going even with a very narrow majority. Don't expect anything good to happen in the next 2 years but at least the horrors will (mostly) stop.
if he gets the house doing nothing but folding paper airplanes for the next 2 years he will be the best speaker of the house to ever live.
but we all know it'll just be pelosi's agenda on drip feed.
RED WAVE WHOOO!!
Actually, initial reports that I saw are that most of the House GOP (including a lot of the newcomers) are leaning toward Scalise rather than McCarthy to be Speaker.
Which I think would be a good choice. He is kind of in the same vein as Cruz and Rubio as sort of "MAGA Missing Link". Where they were/are Neo-Con types, but they have enough political intuition to see where the wind is blowing and ride it to their own power by following the waves. He has also generally been pretty good at call out the Left and the Media for their bullshit and knows better than to let his guard down around them (I am sure being shot and nearly killed by a raging Leftoid has nothing to do with that).
McCarthy will be speaker. Scalise will be majority leader.
Trump and MTG are supporting McCarthy while the Freedom Caucus is trying to get Andy Biggs as speaker.
The moderate Republicans will never back Biggs so Kevin McCarthy is ending up Speaker most likely
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/kevin-mccarthy-first-hurdle-speaker-long-road-january
Good to know. Scalise I still think would have been the better choice, but McCarthy is....not terrible I guess? He is more steadfast than McConnell, but he does waffle a bit too much for my taste.
My impression of him is that he's just doing his best to balance competing factions in his caucus. He's not doing great on that front, but it's hard to imagine anyone else doing much better. He's an improvement over perennial bitch boy Paul Ryan, which is admittedly damning with faint praise. He's not actively sabotaging us like McConnell, so there's that as well.
Interesting. I haven't followed the leadership stuff too closely because I didn't think they would let the Republicans take the House. I did see that McCarthy just won the leadership election, but of course he needs a majority of the full House to become Speaker. The 31 votes against him are more than enough to sink him, but openly colluding with the Dems is a different beast than an internal Republican squabble.
Like the other comment said (and I guess my initial info was wrong or unclear on), it looks like McCarthy will be Speaker and Scalise will be Majority Leader. Like I said, not great, but it could be much worse. The House at least has less RINO's in it than the Senate, so I think them playing obstruction will be fine for the next few years.
They probably wanted Republicals to win very narrowly. Republicans get blamed for nothing getting done, they have no actual legislative power because getting all but one or two members unanimous is near impossible especially in this post-modern world of blackmail politics.
And it gives Democrats a defense for cheating, 'if we're such cheaters how come we didn't win the house?'.
The only thing Republicans really get is control of the committees, but Democrats don't care about any investigations because they'll just have the media refuse to cover it. Rand Paul getting the goods on Fauci will just be singing to the choir, nobody's going to cover it on the left.
While playing the Super Smash hammer theme.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1NYKxuS2dY4
Well of course they won it with a slim majority, if they didn't win a slim majority, there might have been actual pressure to change leadership in the Republican party and the Democrats would have lost their willing collaborators.
I'm going to state this, the midterms were a trap designed to do two things, damage Trump's reputation before a presidential run and demoralise his support.
And allow the Dems to blame the GOP in 2024 for the state of the economy because even if the RINOs bend over and pull their cheeks apart for the Biden admin (they will) they'll still be blamed for whatever new crops up
Exactly, it's one party not two, all united against Trump and his supporters daring to say no to them
Except they can't, not really. The only people who are going to buy that a 1 seat majority is to blame for anything are the democrats base and they believed it was Republicans fault when the dems had both houses anyway.
They needed to lose big time for normies to swallow that narrative.
We'll see. I think you're giving normies too much credit
It shouldn't have been anywhere near this close of a race.