Because as we all know, whether or not women will sleep with a guy is the best way to determine his moral character.
This is a point we should bring up to any dude who struggles with women. Dating is not a meritocracy, and women are awful judges of character. They're really not interested in good men, so rejection says nothing about your character. Anyone who observes the kind of men that women do pick can tell you that.
Obviously we all know that the entire history of "incels" does not begin with a term coined on an obscure blog on the early internet. It just somehow took over from "love shy". There have always been low-value men. The only thing that changes is the cultural context.
The word "feminism" was coined by a Frenchman who believed in state-sanctioned girlfriends, I always find that an amusing little factoid.
Because as we all know, whether or not women will sleep with a guy is the best way to determine his moral character.
i never understood that there is a general social sentiment that women are a good litmus test of a mans moral character. Women will sleep with a 130lb drugged out lead guitarist in a band who doesnt have a cent to his name and hasnt washed his hair in a week. Women will make a baby with a drug dealing thug who lives with his mother.
PS: there was a thread on a body building form where a guy posted on a dating site a picture of an attractive man with a bio saying he was a 3 time convicted child molester and women didnt care, he still go their numbers and posted their conversations. Another one posted an attractive man with an obvious swastika tat, same outcome.
i never understood that there is a general social sentiment that women are a good litmus test of a mans moral character. Women will sleep with a 130lb drugged out lead guitarist in a band who doesnt have a cent to his name and hasnt washed his hair in a week. Women will make a baby with a drug dealing thug who lives with his mother.
PS: there was a thread on a body building form where a guy posted on a dating site a picture of an attractive man with a bio saying he was a 3 time convicted child molester and women didnt care, he still go their numbers and posted their conversations. Another one posted an attractive man with an obvious swastika tat, same outcome.
I mean, are men any different? You put some single mother THOT with multiple kids, no job, begging for money, but with big tits hanging out there and simps are going to be all over her.
People are nasty and make shitty decisions when they think with their pussies or dicks. End of story. That's why we need a structured society control our animal side.
If incels were honest with themselves, they'd admit what they really want is female validation.
Anyone with $200 in his pocket can get sex, if the celibacy was really the issue. If hiring a prostitute sounds gross, which I think it is, it's an admission that they really want someone who wants to be with them of her own accord, which equals validation.
But what these men need to understand is that it's not a validation at all, or at least not a validation worth anything, like you allude to.
60 seconds of sticky friction and empty words of affection, paid in cash or in trade for goods, actually is pretty disposable compared to all the experiences the world has to offer.
Now, men who want to start a family should focus on those experiences, because that not only also attracts women but the right kind of women, and help provide the wisdom to be a better father anyway.
The term used to be called "unrequited love", and it goes back much further than the internet. It has existed for all of human history. It is where a person experiences non-openly reciprocated love of a another. Typically between a young man and a young woman where the man experiences it, but it can go the other way too and it does. It used to be considered a sweet innocent occurrence between a young people because they are new to relationships. Even in the media, it was the driver of a lot of Rom-Coms, teen TV shows, coming of age shows/movies. It was never seen as a problem IRL or in media, but something that just happens with inexperienced and/or young people figuring out life.
But for whatever reason, thanks to feminism and virality of the internet it is now seen as a problem. I think a media amplified problem that isnt as severe or a problem at all, but the internet and media never lies right?
Remember Ellen Pao, the interim Reddit CEO tweeted that "incels are a problem" and asked the government "what are you going to do about it?" Probably after Elliot Rodger did his thing.
This is a point we should bring up to any dude who struggles with women. Dating is not a meritocracy, and women are awful judges of character. They're really not interested in good men, so rejection says nothing about your character. Anyone who observes the kind of men that women do pick can tell you that.
I mean a woman married Ted Bundy while he was on death row, kind of says it all.
No it isn't, you couldn't even make it a dozen words into your wall of text before typing something that was wrong.
Look up 'Alana's Involuntary Celibate Blog', that's where it came from.
Obviously we all know that the entire history of "incels" does not begin with a term coined on an obscure blog on the early internet. It just somehow took over from "love shy". There have always been low-value men. The only thing that changes is the cultural context.
The word "feminism" was coined by a Frenchman who believed in state-sanctioned girlfriends, I always find that an amusing little factoid.
i never understood that there is a general social sentiment that women are a good litmus test of a mans moral character. Women will sleep with a 130lb drugged out lead guitarist in a band who doesnt have a cent to his name and hasnt washed his hair in a week. Women will make a baby with a drug dealing thug who lives with his mother.
PS: there was a thread on a body building form where a guy posted on a dating site a picture of an attractive man with a bio saying he was a 3 time convicted child molester and women didnt care, he still go their numbers and posted their conversations. Another one posted an attractive man with an obvious swastika tat, same outcome.
I mean, are men any different? You put some single mother THOT with multiple kids, no job, begging for money, but with big tits hanging out there and simps are going to be all over her.
People are nasty and make shitty decisions when they think with their pussies or dicks. End of story. That's why we need a structured society control our animal side.
true, but no one says your average simp is a good litmus test of a womans moral character. thats the point you missed.
Women are judged for what they are, men are judged for what they have.
Fair enough
If incels were honest with themselves, they'd admit what they really want is female validation.
Anyone with $200 in his pocket can get sex, if the celibacy was really the issue. If hiring a prostitute sounds gross, which I think it is, it's an admission that they really want someone who wants to be with them of her own accord, which equals validation.
But what these men need to understand is that it's not a validation at all, or at least not a validation worth anything, like you allude to.
60 seconds of sticky friction and empty words of affection, paid in cash or in trade for goods, actually is pretty disposable compared to all the experiences the world has to offer.
Now, men who want to start a family should focus on those experiences, because that not only also attracts women but the right kind of women, and help provide the wisdom to be a better father anyway.
Incel was invented by a woman
The term used to be called "unrequited love", and it goes back much further than the internet. It has existed for all of human history. It is where a person experiences non-openly reciprocated love of a another. Typically between a young man and a young woman where the man experiences it, but it can go the other way too and it does. It used to be considered a sweet innocent occurrence between a young people because they are new to relationships. Even in the media, it was the driver of a lot of Rom-Coms, teen TV shows, coming of age shows/movies. It was never seen as a problem IRL or in media, but something that just happens with inexperienced and/or young people figuring out life.
But for whatever reason, thanks to feminism and virality of the internet it is now seen as a problem. I think a media amplified problem that isnt as severe or a problem at all, but the internet and media never lies right?
Remember Ellen Pao, the interim Reddit CEO tweeted that "incels are a problem" and asked the government "what are you going to do about it?" Probably after Elliot Rodger did his thing.