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Do you get the feeling Russia is winning and the western media are trying to cover it up? (archive.ph)
posted 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules 3 years ago by AlfredicEnglishRules +30 / -0
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– current_horror 14 points 3 years ago +14 / -0

There are Western outlets admitting that our leaders are perplexed by Putin’s restraint. This is because they themselves have never hesitated to bomb the shit out of their enemies, including when they were “the good guys” of ww2. They know Russia has the capability to wreck Ukraine in a weekend, but that’s not Putin’s goal.

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– fauxgnaws 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Even outside Donbas, Ukrainians are basically Russians. The language is similar, the people are genetically very close, it was part of Russia in not ancient history.

Like if US were bombing Canada we wouldn't want to just level whole cities and literally decimate them because we have a lot in common.

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– TomSeeSaw 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Edmonton too? I thought it was alright. Agreed wrt the rest.

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– Assassin47 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

This is because they themselves have never hesitated to bomb the shit out of their enemies, including when they were “the good guys” of ww2.

Even as a normal American this is kind of odd to me. In Russia it seems more acceptable to feed their own prisoners and poor conscripts to the meat grinder than to kill random Ukrainians in indiscriminate bombings. You're supposed to kill the enemy not your own people. In fact the US was with fine burning hundreds of thousands of innocent Japanese people alive to save the predicted 1 million US soldiers that would be needed to invade Japan. We shock and awed tens of thousands to death in Iraq and Afghanistan because 2000 people were killed by terrorists. Civvie or soldier, our people are worth more than yours.

I guess Russia wants to leave infrastructure intact?

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

There are Western outlets admitting that our leaders are perplexed by Putin’s restraint.

Yes, the NYT.

This is because they themselves have never hesitated to bomb the shit out of their enemies, including when they were “the good guys” of ww2. They know Russia has the capability to wreck Ukraine in a weekend, but that’s not Putin’s goal.

I have no idea what Russia's capabilities are anymore. But surely more than they are showing now. E.g. where the hell is the Russian airforce?

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– TomSeeSaw 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Holding back in case of a NATO strike. I think Putin is saving his major muscle for that eventually, rather than jump straight to nuke, no matter the rhetoric. Give's him some time to "fuel" le nukes in satellite view I suppose.

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