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Can someone explain what the Z symbol means as used by Russian troops in Ukraine?
posted 3 years ago by AbleistSL 3 years ago by AbleistSL +13 / -0

I am aware of the Z symbol that is allegedly used by Russian loyalists such as the ones participating in the invasion of Ukraine, and are looking for an explanation as to what the fuck it is that is not from some regressive leftist source.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 18 points 3 years ago +18 / -0

Nothing.

Anyone familiar with modern warfare knew immediately that it was just a marking to help identify which division's vehicles they were, and reduce the likelihood of friendly fire incidents.

The rareness of the letter Z outside slavic languages likely contributed to the feeling of mysteriousness, and caused uninitiated western observers to basically psy-op themselves into thinking it was some ominous symbol of russian nationalism, which Russia then decided to play along with, because watching your enemy shit their pants over an IFF (Identify Friend or Foe) marking is funny.

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

It's like the new "ok" hand sign

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– APDSmith 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

I think it started as just battlefield ID. Western forces used IR reflective panels in the Middle East for the same purposes - to reduce (though sadly not eliminate) the incidence of friendly fire.

It's since become a symbol of the invasion, both inside Russia and out.

It's also not just "Z" - they also used "V" and "O" for different fronts of the invasion.

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– Brennus 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

Yep that’s why, and it’s even more important in this conflict than the western forces in the Middle East because both sides use soviet/Russian vehicles and equipment primarily.

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– AntonioOfVenice 10 points 3 years ago +10 / -0

It means nothing at all. It was just one of the symbols for the fronts of the invasion, as APD says, it's just that this one caught on among supporters of the war.

Germany has threatened people who use 'Z' with fines and jail time. So much for democracy and free speech.

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– Archie78 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

isn't "Z" quite common in german?

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

Not separately. The government would also have to prove that you intended it to support the war. It's funny that they call Russia an unfree country, and yet require people in Germany to have the government's opinion on the war.

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– TomSeeSaw 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Free speech with restrictions, is just restrictions with some fluff.

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– undecidedmask 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

Russia and Ukraine use very similar equipment, a lot of tanks are soviet models that either are the same vehicle, or have upgrade packages that look very similar to each other. The Z is an identification method to prevent friendly fire incidents.

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– dekachin 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Z was one of a number of symbols put on Russian vehicles to identify them so they wouldn't be bombed by Russian aircraft.

Z happened to be the symbol for the forces that attacked from the south, but was also used more broadly than that.

IMO since the southern forces were the most successful, they were shown on Russian state media the most, and therefore the Z become the symbol of the war, which in turn caused it to be used more broadly by Russians all over Ukraine, and the other symbols have been forgotten.

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– norwegianwikin 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

I still remember when Norwegian media used terms like "mysterious" and "sinister" to describe those sloppily painted Z's

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– Piroko 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

It's just an invasion marking.

During the invasion of Europe, allied planes were painted with alternating black and white stripes.

During the first Gulf War, allied armor was painted with chevrons in infrared reflective paint.

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– NigaroFagetsu-kun 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

ZOG

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– degene 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Zapad, or west. It was initially used to mark the vehicles of the western front.

There is also V, for vostok, or east.

The russians started using the symbol to show their "support" for the war. Until they fled to dodge the draft. Then they removed the Z from their cars.

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– Conspirologist 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Letters on military vehicles are used to prevent friendly fire.

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– Decrixxx 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

no idea

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– reidj 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

It stands for zymurgy.

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