Aboriginals didn't have towns. They didn't even have houses (fucking obviously. Every fourth-grader knows this).
Lonely Planet knows this. They know that statement is factually... Off. But they deliberately put it in there anyway.
Look, you might think this doesn't matter, but these are the same utter freaks who insist that Melbourne "was originally called" naaaaaarrrrrmmm, and still should be (according to them). Same with nipaluna (yes, really), for Hobart, and warrane for Sydney. Even though all of those have existed for less than a decade.
You see this shit everywhere, now. On the news. In the "arts" community. On the TV. Absolutely everywhere. And it started with "woke" students and academics.
Oh, I should add: none of those places existed, pre-whitey. This isn't California. It isn't New Mexico. It isn't even Canada. Our natives were quite literally more primitive than pretty much any African tribe, when whitey arrived...
And yet, I'm told to "call it naarm, not Melbourne". I'm told that "calling Hobart by its colonial name is offensive. You must call it nipaluna (all lower case)"
I'm told that "claiming you are going on holiday to Fraser Island is offensive to the tribes who live there. Call it by its traditional name of K'gaari, bigot! Even the (woke) government recognises that is its "true" name!!"
This shit stinks. Fuck this country. These people are fucking evil.
Lonely Planet was originally founded and headquartered in Melbourne (yes, really). That's an important point. Then it was bought by the fucking BBC, driven into the ground, and bought by a photographer with zero business acumen, who literally bankrupted the company, gutted it (much more than even the BBC had managed to do), and this... Woke carcass is its barely-functioning ghost...
Fucking weird. Same thing happened to Fairfax (once Australia's second-largest media org). Dumb, entitled, "creative" idiots in their twenties, completely ruined and destroyed the business that was handed to them. Funny that...
I did a north american archeology course once. The thing that struck me most was how primitive the Native Americans were. The height of technology before Europeans arrived was having simple copper tools. Fish hooks and needles and such that could be made from raw unprocessed copper that washed up on a shore somewhere. No wheel, only basic wood and skin structures all while China was at the height of the Ming Dynasty and Europe was going through the Renaissance and even the middle East was experimenting with new and creative gunpowder formulas. Meanwhile in America having a crummy raw copper fish hook is a big status symbol. And even then, Australian Aborigines were somehow even more primitive.
It's contemptible when wokies want us to take these people's "science" as somehow equivalent to our own.
Also the traditional name thing reminds me of when they renamed Barrow, Alaska to something unpronounceable that I can't remember.
It's contemptible when wokies want us to take these people's "science" as somehow equivalent to our own.
What they fail to understand is that any worthwhile knowledge they had (plants that had analgesic properties, eating fruit to be prevent some diseases during long sea voyages) as long since just been acquired, studied and understood and is part of "our" science now.
Everything else we didn't roll into our own stuff was garbage. So if "ancestral knowledge" now says something opposite to modern science, modern science is most likely the right answer.
utqiagvik. I don't do pronunciation symbols but oot-E-ah-vik It looks funny but pronounces fine. The thing about utqiagvik is it was and still is a native village. It is not populated with white people. You can't drive there, there isn't really much industry. The only reason you'd want to live there is you really hate people, but not so much to live completely in the wilderness or you've always lived there.
That’s… Not entirely accurate, but 60% native is very high, yes.
The rest of what you said is… Mostly accurate.
I’m sorry but Barrow is, and always will be, a better name than something that the majority of your fellow countrymen (I presume) will never be able to pronounce properly… And that will continue to be the name that the majority of people will use, whatever woke “government officials” may decide.
I’m not sure I agree with your stance on this stuff, sorry. But you do you. I suspect you’re in the minority in that state more broadly, but I guess if 60% of the population supposedly wants it to be called that, then sure, why not…
One of those subtle language or behavioral changes that we start to notice everywhere but sleepy normies still think nothing about, and wonder why we're so paranoid about nothing. Many such cases.
Fucking LOL at "first European city", I guess they're counting temporary mud huts or clumps of branch shelters as cities? Or maybe lonely planet's expanding to include non human cities like ant colonies now.
The worshipping of aboriginals in Australia is so pathetic, and I hate there's been more of a push of using aboriginal names and doing that acknowledgement speech shit when it's a dying culture that dug it's own grave by not wanting to record anything or share infomation with outsiders.
My work in particular is nauseatingly woke. Weekly company meetings start with the acknowledgement stuff and some individuals virtue signal hard by using aboriginal greetings to each other. We even redesigned artwork that was for an Australian themed thing because "we don't want to offend abbos by imitating their art style". Oh no man not the DOT PAINTING! Whatever, helps abbos fade more into obscurity.
40,000 years and the peak of their culture was music that consisted of banging two sticks together and blowing through a hollow tube, and dot paintings that have all the technique and sophistication of children's drawings.
And yet people want to put them up on a pedestal and say things like they are the traditional caretakers of the land.
And yet people want to put them up on a pedestal and say things like they are the traditional caretakers of the land.
The worst part in North America is they build casinos, drive F150s and are massive drinkers, but we're somehow supposed to believe they are "stewards of nature". What. What does a Casino do for forest conservation ?
The worst part in North America is they build casinos, drive F150s
To be fair, it's the richest handful of them that do that.
The rest are drunk all day because that's about all there is to do when you're living in miserable little villages with no future, desperately clinging to a dead way of life instead of just facing the music and accepting that that the 1500's are never coming back.
It's even worse. They live in Dickie Moores. I don't remember that being a dead way of life, I don't think those trailers were around back pre-colonial days.
I doubt you could find a single native from North America living as if it were 1750.
My point is that that many of them sequester themselves away from wider US society for no reason. The reservations, the areas 'governed' by <insert native nation here>, serve no function other keeping some tribal aristocrats in some illusion of power.
Their existence actively encourages natives toward staying in communities where there is and never will be any good education or opportunity.
How many potential John Romeros have instead spent their lives getting blind drunk in a trailer or a glorified wooden tool shed just so that they could live next to their own people and send their children to a joke of a school where they can learn to (barely) write an economically useless language with no vocabulary for anything important in the modern world..
The problem is that they can't own land. The tribe owns the land. Why build anything of value if some tribal bwaueocrat can just reassign themselves your home? Shit is fucked up but nobody wants to say anything. (Or aren't aware just why its so fucked up)
lol I was thinking about the one from the 70s or the 80s with the presenter wearing a suit, and it was a similar set up, a white person played something that's actually music on the piano and followed by the abbos banging sticks on something like a hollow tree trunk, somehow this version is worse with a fat tranny/faggot crooning and playing the piano with fat sausage fingers
Ahaha, I haven't seen that version! Hopefully someone's saved it on youtube or something because it's hilarious seeing aboriginal music compared to modern music.
Hate to break it to ya champ but the dot paintings were invented by a white guy in the 70s in order to create shit to sell to tourists. Between that and all the dreamtime stories I was made to learn in school (even worse for kids now), and the welcome to country Ernie Dingo wank, I'm sure the majority of so-called aboriginal "culture" is just made up to make them seem like equals of the Europeans who CHOSE to live like proto-hominids eating bugs and tree bark.
This is in aid of the narrative that the land was "stolen" or conquered, like it was a perfect utopia that the evil white men just claimed for themselves. In reality it was a harsh, barren land that needed to be settled and made into something livable. The early settlers were hard as fuck pioneers and nothing like the average Aussie male and female of today.
Edit: I've been to India. I've been to at least one of the cities the article mentions. I actually even lived there, briefly. Aside from like, Africa, maybe, I challenge anyone to find somewhere less... "Woke". Elitist? Sure. The worst inequality I have ever seen, anywhere on Earth (which matches objective facts)? Most definitely. No wonder leftists love shit like this so much...
Fucking "woke" Brahmin trash.
Yours sincerely,
someone who had (some. I ain't very brown) ancestors from a "lesser" sect.
India's getting woker and woker. There's a ton of gender equality in higher education, and it's not like the women are going to IIT. No, they're doing the same thing white women are.
The country, though, is so massive, that you'd probably never notice the wokeness unless you actively looked for it.
I just listened to a Jordan Peterson interview with some black chick entrepreneur. She seems pretty cool, had a successful career after growing up all over the globe, was currently working on establishing some brand in Africa.
All pretty good, interesting story, whatever.
Then she gets to the point where, paraphrasing, "well, Africa was the original entrepreneur culture. We were 100% capitalist and lived in free trade harmony until the white man brought slavery, then we chose socialism after we freed ourselves from colonialism because we were angry at the capitalists for colonizing us."
It was such a fucking pathetic cope from an otherwise accomplished person. Bitch, you didn't come from a society that even had written history. Even if what you say is true, how would you fucking know unless the white man came in and wrote it down for you?
Interview went from an interesting discussion on personal accomplishment, corruption and overregulation to "we was capitalists 'n shit" in the blink of an eye. Insecurity rears its ugly head in the weirdest ways.
To be fair, there definitely were Sub-Saharan African civilizations with the written word, in the last 500 years, prior to colonization by whitey (Benin, Nigeria, “Great Zimbabwe”, which is what the countries are named after), but you’re right, for the majority of the population of the continent, yes…
And they certainly weren’t “capitalist”, lol…
All of them kept slaves from other tribes. All of them.
Look up the “Great Walls of Benin”. Genuinely amazing thing. But guess who built it, lol? Fucking slaves!!
So her point would still be moot, even if she was somehow a descendant of one of those tribes/civilizations, lol!
Yeah, a bit of hyperbole on my part, but y'know. I'm not writing a dissertation here. Just rather fed up with listening to nonsense from otherwise intelligent people.
There was no "written word" in sub-Saharan Africa pre-European liberation and their best civilisations were just sprawls of mud huts, with mud walls if they were particularly sophisticated. "Great". Nothing "great" about them. None of them advanced beyond the stone age. This picture of Renaissance Wakanda comes up first when I search for the "Great Walls of Benin" - ...optimistic.
I feel sorry for them, everyone needs a civilizational history to be proud of. That's why so many of them are so easily manipulated to want to destroy ours.
Here is the link that leads to: https://www.lonelyplanet.com/articles/melbourne-or-sydney
If you don't get it, you're missing the point.
Aboriginals didn't have towns. They didn't even have houses (fucking obviously. Every fourth-grader knows this).
Lonely Planet knows this. They know that statement is factually... Off. But they deliberately put it in there anyway.
Look, you might think this doesn't matter, but these are the same utter freaks who insist that Melbourne "was originally called" naaaaaarrrrrmmm, and still should be (according to them). Same with nipaluna (yes, really), for Hobart, and warrane for Sydney. Even though all of those have existed for less than a decade.
You see this shit everywhere, now. On the news. In the "arts" community. On the TV. Absolutely everywhere. And it started with "woke" students and academics.
Oh, I should add: none of those places existed, pre-whitey. This isn't California. It isn't New Mexico. It isn't even Canada. Our natives were quite literally more primitive than pretty much any African tribe, when whitey arrived...
And yet, I'm told to "call it naarm, not Melbourne". I'm told that "calling Hobart by its colonial name is offensive. You must call it nipaluna (all lower case)"
I'm told that "claiming you are going on holiday to Fraser Island is offensive to the tribes who live there. Call it by its traditional name of K'gaari, bigot! Even the (woke) government recognises that is its "true" name!!"
This shit stinks. Fuck this country. These people are fucking evil.
Lonely Planet was originally founded and headquartered in Melbourne (yes, really). That's an important point. Then it was bought by the fucking BBC, driven into the ground, and bought by a photographer with zero business acumen, who literally bankrupted the company, gutted it (much more than even the BBC had managed to do), and this... Woke carcass is its barely-functioning ghost...
Fucking weird. Same thing happened to Fairfax (once Australia's second-largest media org). Dumb, entitled, "creative" idiots in their twenties, completely ruined and destroyed the business that was handed to them. Funny that...
I did a north american archeology course once. The thing that struck me most was how primitive the Native Americans were. The height of technology before Europeans arrived was having simple copper tools. Fish hooks and needles and such that could be made from raw unprocessed copper that washed up on a shore somewhere. No wheel, only basic wood and skin structures all while China was at the height of the Ming Dynasty and Europe was going through the Renaissance and even the middle East was experimenting with new and creative gunpowder formulas. Meanwhile in America having a crummy raw copper fish hook is a big status symbol. And even then, Australian Aborigines were somehow even more primitive.
It's contemptible when wokies want us to take these people's "science" as somehow equivalent to our own.
Also the traditional name thing reminds me of when they renamed Barrow, Alaska to something unpronounceable that I can't remember.
What they fail to understand is that any worthwhile knowledge they had (plants that had analgesic properties, eating fruit to be prevent some diseases during long sea voyages) as long since just been acquired, studied and understood and is part of "our" science now.
Everything else we didn't roll into our own stuff was garbage. So if "ancestral knowledge" now says something opposite to modern science, modern science is most likely the right answer.
That has more to do with ideology; science is falsifiable-- ideology isn't, and that's the crux of the current issue.
Two other cruxes are:
(1) we're sort of running out of science to do (2) the science that we've done seems less and less meaningful
utqiagvik. I don't do pronunciation symbols but oot-E-ah-vik It looks funny but pronounces fine. The thing about utqiagvik is it was and still is a native village. It is not populated with white people. You can't drive there, there isn't really much industry. The only reason you'd want to live there is you really hate people, but not so much to live completely in the wilderness or you've always lived there.
That’s… Not entirely accurate, but 60% native is very high, yes.
The rest of what you said is… Mostly accurate.
I’m sorry but Barrow is, and always will be, a better name than something that the majority of your fellow countrymen (I presume) will never be able to pronounce properly… And that will continue to be the name that the majority of people will use, whatever woke “government officials” may decide.
I’m not sure I agree with your stance on this stuff, sorry. But you do you. I suspect you’re in the minority in that state more broadly, but I guess if 60% of the population supposedly wants it to be called that, then sure, why not…
One of those subtle language or behavioral changes that we start to notice everywhere but sleepy normies still think nothing about, and wonder why we're so paranoid about nothing. Many such cases.
The left is pushing for a race to the bottom.
We will all be equal when we equally have nothing.
Fucking LOL at "first European city", I guess they're counting temporary mud huts or clumps of branch shelters as cities? Or maybe lonely planet's expanding to include non human cities like ant colonies now.
The worshipping of aboriginals in Australia is so pathetic, and I hate there's been more of a push of using aboriginal names and doing that acknowledgement speech shit when it's a dying culture that dug it's own grave by not wanting to record anything or share infomation with outsiders.
My work in particular is nauseatingly woke. Weekly company meetings start with the acknowledgement stuff and some individuals virtue signal hard by using aboriginal greetings to each other. We even redesigned artwork that was for an Australian themed thing because "we don't want to offend abbos by imitating their art style". Oh no man not the DOT PAINTING! Whatever, helps abbos fade more into obscurity.
40,000 years and the peak of their culture was music that consisted of banging two sticks together and blowing through a hollow tube, and dot paintings that have all the technique and sophistication of children's drawings.
And yet people want to put them up on a pedestal and say things like they are the traditional caretakers of the land.
What a load of horse shit.
The worst part in North America is they build casinos, drive F150s and are massive drinkers, but we're somehow supposed to believe they are "stewards of nature". What. What does a Casino do for forest conservation ?
To be fair, it's the richest handful of them that do that.
The rest are drunk all day because that's about all there is to do when you're living in miserable little villages with no future, desperately clinging to a dead way of life instead of just facing the music and accepting that that the 1500's are never coming back.
The rest are just white people.
It's even worse. They live in Dickie Moores. I don't remember that being a dead way of life, I don't think those trailers were around back pre-colonial days.
I doubt you could find a single native from North America living as if it were 1750.
You're right, sort of.
My point is that that many of them sequester themselves away from wider US society for no reason. The reservations, the areas 'governed' by <insert native nation here>, serve no function other keeping some tribal aristocrats in some illusion of power.
Their existence actively encourages natives toward staying in communities where there is and never will be any good education or opportunity.
How many potential John Romeros have instead spent their lives getting blind drunk in a trailer or a glorified wooden tool shed just so that they could live next to their own people and send their children to a joke of a school where they can learn to (barely) write an economically useless language with no vocabulary for anything important in the modern world..
The problem is that they can't own land. The tribe owns the land. Why build anything of value if some tribal bwaueocrat can just reassign themselves your home? Shit is fucked up but nobody wants to say anything. (Or aren't aware just why its so fucked up)
Right, and that's part of the 'clinging to a dead way of life' I was talking about.
You'd have to be a sentimental fool to want to be governed by tribal courts.
do you have the link to that video of two abbos randomly banging sticks looking like two lobotomized apes infront of the well dressed studio audience
Got u fam, their part starts around 1min 40sec
https://youtu.be/_tOkb1y7hEs
lol I was thinking about the one from the 70s or the 80s with the presenter wearing a suit, and it was a similar set up, a white person played something that's actually music on the piano and followed by the abbos banging sticks on something like a hollow tree trunk, somehow this version is worse with a fat tranny/faggot crooning and playing the piano with fat sausage fingers
Ahaha, I haven't seen that version! Hopefully someone's saved it on youtube or something because it's hilarious seeing aboriginal music compared to modern music.
Hate to break it to ya champ but the dot paintings were invented by a white guy in the 70s in order to create shit to sell to tourists. Between that and all the dreamtime stories I was made to learn in school (even worse for kids now), and the welcome to country Ernie Dingo wank, I'm sure the majority of so-called aboriginal "culture" is just made up to make them seem like equals of the Europeans who CHOSE to live like proto-hominids eating bugs and tree bark.
This is in aid of the narrative that the land was "stolen" or conquered, like it was a perfect utopia that the evil white men just claimed for themselves. In reality it was a harsh, barren land that needed to be settled and made into something livable. The early settlers were hard as fuck pioneers and nothing like the average Aussie male and female of today.
Oh, it gets better...
And no, this article is not satire, or "ironic". Apparently this place, and person, actually exist, in fucking India. Apparently.
https://www.lonelyplanet.com/articles/woke-pizza-classics-with-a-twist
Edit: I've been to India. I've been to at least one of the cities the article mentions. I actually even lived there, briefly. Aside from like, Africa, maybe, I challenge anyone to find somewhere less... "Woke". Elitist? Sure. The worst inequality I have ever seen, anywhere on Earth (which matches objective facts)? Most definitely. No wonder leftists love shit like this so much...
Fucking "woke" Brahmin trash.
Yours sincerely, someone who had (some. I ain't very brown) ancestors from a "lesser" sect.
Yeah, caste systems are pretty anti-woke in theory but just codify how wokeness actually plays out.
India's getting woker and woker. There's a ton of gender equality in higher education, and it's not like the women are going to IIT. No, they're doing the same thing white women are.
The country, though, is so massive, that you'd probably never notice the wokeness unless you actively looked for it.
I just listened to a Jordan Peterson interview with some black chick entrepreneur. She seems pretty cool, had a successful career after growing up all over the globe, was currently working on establishing some brand in Africa.
All pretty good, interesting story, whatever.
Then she gets to the point where, paraphrasing, "well, Africa was the original entrepreneur culture. We were 100% capitalist and lived in free trade harmony until the white man brought slavery, then we chose socialism after we freed ourselves from colonialism because we were angry at the capitalists for colonizing us."
It was such a fucking pathetic cope from an otherwise accomplished person. Bitch, you didn't come from a society that even had written history. Even if what you say is true, how would you fucking know unless the white man came in and wrote it down for you?
Interview went from an interesting discussion on personal accomplishment, corruption and overregulation to "we was capitalists 'n shit" in the blink of an eye. Insecurity rears its ugly head in the weirdest ways.
To be fair, there definitely were Sub-Saharan African civilizations with the written word, in the last 500 years, prior to colonization by whitey (Benin, Nigeria, “Great Zimbabwe”, which is what the countries are named after), but you’re right, for the majority of the population of the continent, yes…
And they certainly weren’t “capitalist”, lol…
All of them kept slaves from other tribes. All of them.
Look up the “Great Walls of Benin”. Genuinely amazing thing. But guess who built it, lol? Fucking slaves!!
So her point would still be moot, even if she was somehow a descendant of one of those tribes/civilizations, lol!
Yeah, a bit of hyperbole on my part, but y'know. I'm not writing a dissertation here. Just rather fed up with listening to nonsense from otherwise intelligent people.
There was no "written word" in sub-Saharan Africa pre-European liberation and their best civilisations were just sprawls of mud huts, with mud walls if they were particularly sophisticated. "Great". Nothing "great" about them. None of them advanced beyond the stone age. This picture of Renaissance Wakanda comes up first when I search for the "Great Walls of Benin" - ...optimistic.
I feel sorry for them, everyone needs a civilizational history to be proud of. That's why so many of them are so easily manipulated to want to destroy ours.
What did Peterson say in response?
Anything less than a complete verbal smackdown is unacceptable.
Just be openly imperialist.
If their civilization had any worth, colonialism would never have developed.