And even if she was - who cares? Is she costing taxpayers anything for her actions? Nope. Is the CBC costing taxpayers for their partisan actions and idiocy? Yep. The former needs to be defended, and the later defunded.
We have PM blackface, breaking Canadian law, restricting our rights - and IF this country had even ONE SINGLE HONEST cop left they'd be in hot pursuit of this repeat criminal - but they aren't, because there isn't one single honest cop anymore is there?
The judges are definitely at fault too for going along with the Crown prosecutors out of proportion and politically motivated bail demands.
If the Justices of the Peace and the lower court judges had told Trudeau and the prosecutors to pound sand re: out of proportion bail restrictions and "we'll see you at trial", the freedom movement wouldn't have been as stifled as it has since the crackdown in Ottawa and I'm sure the government would have found ways to speed up the timeline to get their day in court if their opponents were free and able to express dissent freely.
Absolutely, there is no doubt that what we saw(are seeing?) is a total collapse of system integrity. All the safeguards put in place to stop what we are seeing are only effective with the will to use them, and every person in every office from the PM down to the local mayor/Chef of Police are responsible for it.
The court can't tell you not to speak - and any order that absurd deserves to be ignored as the tripe it is. So again I reiterate - who cares? Only those that have allowed the actual tyrants to ruin lives and break laws? And to them I think we can all agree they can GTFO.
If the courts cared about justice - none of this would be happening, and instead we would be talking about how weird it is that Trudeau and his cabinet is in jail.... Instead, they are still out pretending to be dictators. Why listen to anything these bozo's have to say at this point?
Uh no they can't. Canada does not have a 1st amendment, but it does have
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1 The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms guarantees the rights and >freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as >can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society.
Fundamental Freedoms
Marginal note:Fundamental freedoms
2 Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
(a) freedom of conscience and religion;
(b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication;
freedoms set out in it subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law
You quoted the part that makes it completely unlike the 1st amendment or in fact, any amendment in the Bill of Rights. The Government gets to decide what is "reasonable limits". They get to decide what is a "Free and Democratic" society. So when they say "Trucker Convoys are a threat to democracy", now you know why. It's so they can justify to simply ignore the charter.
And it's not 1.2(b), it's 2(b). 1 is the section that makes it so much of the charter is basically toilet paper. 2 is a separate section. Maybe you should learn how to read laws on the Government site before you attempt to cite them at Canadians who know much better than you :
Not to mention section 2 can be revoked at anytime according to section 33, the Notwithstanding clause :
33 (1) Parliament or the legislature of a province may expressly declare in an Act of Parliament or of the legislature, as the case may be, that the Act or a provision thereof shall operate notwithstanding a provision included in section 2 or sections 7 to 15 of this Charter.
Of course it is unlike it - it is from a different country. You are aware of this right?
Seriously, since we are slinging insults here - You are like a liberal that thinks conservatives are just doing liberalism badly, instead of knowing it is something different. If you can't figure this out, I'll wait a few years/decades for you to catch up.
Finally, that clause 33 - merely means that any rights given, or implied in the charter are merely based on nothing - Thus... and I want you to sit down for this little one...
WHO CARES WHAT THEY THINK !!!!
They have no real standing other than the willingness to use force - AND it is about time everyone see's them for that they are and be dealt with.
So no, not uninformed - just tied of waiting for you all to awake.
Of course it is unlike it - it is from a different country. You are aware of this right?
Are you ok ? The point is the 1st amendment is absolute. It is a GOD GIVEN right.
Section 2 of the Canadian charter is not absolute. It is a GOVERNMENT Granted right, which can be revoked or limited by what GOVERNMENT deems free and democratic.
Seriously, since we are slinging insults here -
I'm trying real hard not to be insulting, but you're quite ignorant of the charter, think it protects you, and then argue when shown you have no clue what you're talking about.
Finally, that clause 33 - merely means that any rights given, or implied in the charter are merely based on nothing - Thus... and I want you to sit down for this little one...
No, Section 33, the Notwithstanding clause, can be used at any time to suspend rights in the Charter and passing laws that go against these rights. The Quebec Government literally just used it a few years ago to ban head coverings in contravention to freedom of religion.
So no, not uninformed
But you're completely uninformed. You think the charter is an actual thing. It's toilet paper with multiple loopholes that are intentionally put there so Government can just take away every right you have whenever they feel like it.
It's not even remotely in the same ballpark as the US Bill of Rights. Has nothing to do with the fact it's 2 different countries, it's because one protects your GOD GIVEN rights, the other is a list of Rights the GOVERNMENT might grant you if they feel like it that day.
just tied of waiting for you all to awake.
We're more awake than you are. You think this just started. This has been ongoing for decades. I bet you didn't know that the Canadian military used turrent machine guns on Protesters... back in 1918. Canada has never respected the rights of anyone.
According to a legal expert, King and Billings have likely already served more jail time awaiting trial than they will if convicted and sentenced. "We are already reaching a period of prior detention that overpasses the possible punishment," said Joao Velloso, a law professor at the University of Ottawa.
Nevertheless, Justin's minions persist. FYI here's his charges: mischief, counselling to commit mischief, counselling to commit the offence of disobeying a court order, and counselling to obstruct police. IE NOTHING VIOLENT
Inflation was a problem 10 years before the Nazis took over, and I am pretty sure alleged 'child prostitution' was not a reason for anyone to support the Nazis - except to serve as a post hoc rationalization.
Weimar Germany was a degenerate place, they pioneered Gender Transitions and pedophilia as an acceptable sexuality.
when hyperinflation set in, due to the massive amount of paper money the government had to print to cover war debts and reparations, desperate people did desperate things. Was it rampant throughout Germany? Probably not, just like antifa street battles aren’t a problem in Cincinnati Ohio like in Portland Oregon.
The biggest reason Nazis won was because the far left was just loony, like today, and Liberals voted for the less crazy Nazis. IIRC Hitler didn’t win an election to seize power. After the reichstag fire he was appointed chancellor or PM.
I am not a historian so please don’t take my words as absolute fact, but 1920’s Germany is eerily similar to todays West. I absolutely expect a backlash to the alphabet mafia types.
For most of his life, he operated under the Second Empire.
when hyperinflation set in, due to the massive amount of paper money the government had to print to cover war debts and reparations, desperate people did desperate things.
That was 10 years before the Nazis came to power though.
The biggest reason Nazis won was because the far left was just loony, like today, and Liberals voted for the less crazy Nazis.
Unfortunately, that is not true. The 'less crazy' parties (Social Democrats, Catholic Center) were actually losing votes to the more extreme Nazis and Communists.
IIRC Hitler didn’t win an election to seize power. After the reichstag fire he was appointed chancellor or PM.
Actually, he was appointed chancellor before, but he used the Reichstag fire to consolidate a dictatorship - sort of like Stalin later used the Kirov murder.
I am not a historian so please don’t take my words as absolute fact, but 1920’s Germany is eerily similar to todays West. I absolutely expect a backlash to the alphabet mafia types.
I partially agree with what you say. But bear in mind that your position seems to be "lunacy is bad because it might lead to people like the Nazis winning" vs. some of the other people who argue that "Nazis were actually good because Weimar was bad".
You misspelled most people will go along with it, so long as you propagandize them, take away their guns and promise to be nice to them if they just agree with everything.
Hitler wouldn't have risen to power without heavy propaganda, and without then securing his power through human rights abuse.
I never said he did things fairly, just that he didn’t magically get into power, that Germany before he went into power was begging for someone to change it, because of how awful it was.
This is the same type of BS charge that they laid on the Patriot Front guys in Idaho last week.
With the biggest difference being that Pat King had absolutely zero chance of actually inciting any violence in Ottawa, as he was on the ground livestreaming for 3 weeks.
Ezra Levant also keeps posting that Pat King is a fed, which seems strange considering they've made an example of him and kept him in jail without cause for 4 months.
This is the same type of BS charge that they laid on the Patriot Front guys in Idaho last week.
This isn't even close to that. For one, the Trucker Convoy is not a glow op. For two, PF guys all magically paid 300$ bail and got released within 24 hours while Trucker Convoy people had to fight to even get a bail.
Pat King is a useful idiot because of his past comments, and he's being made into a more important figure than he actually is just to smear the Trucker Convoy. It's still wrong what they are doing to him.
Pat King is a crazy person who left-wing politicians/media (though I repeat myself on every level) love because he makes the movement look bad. The MSM talks about PK more than anyone in the freedom movement ever has.
To the rest of us he's really a non-entity and a proven liar.
I agree the background behind the Freedom Convoy and Patrot Frontier are different.
My point was that the state charging both groups with pre-crime "conspiracy to commit X" is the same vague, trumped up BS where they don't actually have enough of a case to charge them with an actual crime.
And even if she was - who cares? Is she costing taxpayers anything for her actions? Nope. Is the CBC costing taxpayers for their partisan actions and idiocy? Yep. The former needs to be defended, and the later defunded.
We have PM blackface, breaking Canadian law, restricting our rights - and IF this country had even ONE SINGLE HONEST cop left they'd be in hot pursuit of this repeat criminal - but they aren't, because there isn't one single honest cop anymore is there?
The judges are definitely at fault too for going along with the Crown prosecutors out of proportion and politically motivated bail demands.
If the Justices of the Peace and the lower court judges had told Trudeau and the prosecutors to pound sand re: out of proportion bail restrictions and "we'll see you at trial", the freedom movement wouldn't have been as stifled as it has since the crackdown in Ottawa and I'm sure the government would have found ways to speed up the timeline to get their day in court if their opponents were free and able to express dissent freely.
Absolutely, there is no doubt that what we saw(are seeing?) is a total collapse of system integrity. All the safeguards put in place to stop what we are seeing are only effective with the will to use them, and every person in every office from the PM down to the local mayor/Chef of Police are responsible for it.
She's under court orders to not be. So if she is, she's going back to jail.
The court can't tell you not to speak - and any order that absurd deserves to be ignored as the tripe it is. So again I reiterate - who cares? Only those that have allowed the actual tyrants to ruin lives and break laws? And to them I think we can all agree they can GTFO.
If the courts cared about justice - none of this would be happening, and instead we would be talking about how weird it is that Trudeau and his cabinet is in jail.... Instead, they are still out pretending to be dictators. Why listen to anything these bozo's have to say at this point?
Uh ? Yes they can. Especially in Canada where there's no 1st amendment.
And you'll be back in jail in 2 minutes if you disobey a court order. Have fun fighting that with your lawyer.
Uh no they can't. Canada does not have a 1st amendment, but it does have
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DO you want to read the class Section 1.2(b)???
You quoted the part that makes it completely unlike the 1st amendment or in fact, any amendment in the Bill of Rights. The Government gets to decide what is "reasonable limits". They get to decide what is a "Free and Democratic" society. So when they say "Trucker Convoys are a threat to democracy", now you know why. It's so they can justify to simply ignore the charter.
And it's not 1.2(b), it's 2(b). 1 is the section that makes it so much of the charter is basically toilet paper. 2 is a separate section. Maybe you should learn how to read laws on the Government site before you attempt to cite them at Canadians who know much better than you :
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/const/page-12.html
Not to mention section 2 can be revoked at anytime according to section 33, the Notwithstanding clause :
Seriously. You're a grossly uninformed.
Of course it is unlike it - it is from a different country. You are aware of this right?
Seriously, since we are slinging insults here - You are like a liberal that thinks conservatives are just doing liberalism badly, instead of knowing it is something different. If you can't figure this out, I'll wait a few years/decades for you to catch up.
Finally, that clause 33 - merely means that any rights given, or implied in the charter are merely based on nothing - Thus... and I want you to sit down for this little one...
WHO CARES WHAT THEY THINK !!!!
They have no real standing other than the willingness to use force - AND it is about time everyone see's them for that they are and be dealt with.
So no, not uninformed - just tied of waiting for you all to awake.
Are you ok ? The point is the 1st amendment is absolute. It is a GOD GIVEN right.
Section 2 of the Canadian charter is not absolute. It is a GOVERNMENT Granted right, which can be revoked or limited by what GOVERNMENT deems free and democratic.
I'm trying real hard not to be insulting, but you're quite ignorant of the charter, think it protects you, and then argue when shown you have no clue what you're talking about.
No, Section 33, the Notwithstanding clause, can be used at any time to suspend rights in the Charter and passing laws that go against these rights. The Quebec Government literally just used it a few years ago to ban head coverings in contravention to freedom of religion.
But you're completely uninformed. You think the charter is an actual thing. It's toilet paper with multiple loopholes that are intentionally put there so Government can just take away every right you have whenever they feel like it.
It's not even remotely in the same ballpark as the US Bill of Rights. Has nothing to do with the fact it's 2 different countries, it's because one protects your GOD GIVEN rights, the other is a list of Rights the GOVERNMENT might grant you if they feel like it that day.
We're more awake than you are. You think this just started. This has been ongoing for decades. I bet you didn't know that the Canadian military used turrent machine guns on Protesters... back in 1918. Canada has never respected the rights of anyone.
Uh, yeah? What did you think government is?
Another fun piece from the article:
Nevertheless, Justin's minions persist. FYI here's his charges: mischief, counselling to commit mischief, counselling to commit the offence of disobeying a court order, and counselling to obstruct police. IE NOTHING VIOLENT
Regardless of the nominal political system, the only real crime anywhere is opposition to the regime.
Which is pretty much what this whole Ottawa thing is, and most Canadians are blindly cheering the Government for it.
If anyone wondered why 1930s Germany happened, now we know.
Inflation was a problem 10 years before the Nazis took over, and I am pretty sure alleged 'child prostitution' was not a reason for anyone to support the Nazis - except to serve as a post hoc rationalization.
Bro, just read the wiki on Magnus Hirschfeld.
Weimar Germany was a degenerate place, they pioneered Gender Transitions and pedophilia as an acceptable sexuality.
when hyperinflation set in, due to the massive amount of paper money the government had to print to cover war debts and reparations, desperate people did desperate things. Was it rampant throughout Germany? Probably not, just like antifa street battles aren’t a problem in Cincinnati Ohio like in Portland Oregon.
The biggest reason Nazis won was because the far left was just loony, like today, and Liberals voted for the less crazy Nazis. IIRC Hitler didn’t win an election to seize power. After the reichstag fire he was appointed chancellor or PM.
I am not a historian so please don’t take my words as absolute fact, but 1920’s Germany is eerily similar to todays West. I absolutely expect a backlash to the alphabet mafia types.
For most of his life, he operated under the Second Empire.
That was 10 years before the Nazis came to power though.
Unfortunately, that is not true. The 'less crazy' parties (Social Democrats, Catholic Center) were actually losing votes to the more extreme Nazis and Communists.
Actually, he was appointed chancellor before, but he used the Reichstag fire to consolidate a dictatorship - sort of like Stalin later used the Kirov murder.
I partially agree with what you say. But bear in mind that your position seems to be "lunacy is bad because it might lead to people like the Nazis winning" vs. some of the other people who argue that "Nazis were actually good because Weimar was bad".
You misspelled most people will go along with it, so long as you propagandize them, take away their guns and promise to be nice to them if they just agree with everything.
Hitler wouldn't have risen to power without heavy propaganda, and without then securing his power through human rights abuse.
Are we going to pretend that Weimar Germany wasn’t festering with pedos, trans experiments and other assorted degeneracy?
Are we going to pretend Hitler rose and kept power with honesty and without using force and coercion ?
I never said he did things fairly, just that he didn’t magically get into power, that Germany before he went into power was begging for someone to change it, because of how awful it was.
So silly. Homosexuality was a criminal offense in Weimar Germany.
Then why is it in TentElephant’s pedo copypasta?
Yes, it wasn’t.
Inflation was a problem for a year in 1924. Child prostitution happened in every country.
This is the same type of BS charge that they laid on the Patriot Front guys in Idaho last week.
With the biggest difference being that Pat King had absolutely zero chance of actually inciting any violence in Ottawa, as he was on the ground livestreaming for 3 weeks.
Ezra Levant also keeps posting that Pat King is a fed, which seems strange considering they've made an example of him and kept him in jail without cause for 4 months.
This isn't even close to that. For one, the Trucker Convoy is not a glow op. For two, PF guys all magically paid 300$ bail and got released within 24 hours while Trucker Convoy people had to fight to even get a bail.
Pat King is a useful idiot because of his past comments, and he's being made into a more important figure than he actually is just to smear the Trucker Convoy. It's still wrong what they are doing to him.
Yeah I agree with you on everything.
Pat King is a crazy person who left-wing politicians/media (though I repeat myself on every level) love because he makes the movement look bad. The MSM talks about PK more than anyone in the freedom movement ever has.
To the rest of us he's really a non-entity and a proven liar.
I agree the background behind the Freedom Convoy and Patrot Frontier are different.
My point was that the state charging both groups with pre-crime "conspiracy to commit X" is the same vague, trumped up BS where they don't actually have enough of a case to charge them with an actual crime.
Hence the "conspiracy to commit"
https://twitter.com/AndrewLawton/status/1535792736044867584
They'd already be out of business if it weren't for those sweet Trudeau bucks they get each year.
They're not a business though. They never were in business. The CBC is a state broadcaster, always was paid through taxes.
And if you think the CBC is on borrowed time, you don't understand how cucked the Conservatives are in Canada.
The Trucker Convoy is gone and isn’t coming back. That was your one shot.