It's just you announcing you are one of the people I mentioned at the beginning of my post who has already decided to hate anything new all the while knowing Jack and shit about it. You're just looking for a hook to bitch about.
LOL, this entire thread is just YOU announcing that you've already decided anyone who doesn't like your tv show must be blah blah blah. You're a hypocrite and a moron.
I see this thread went pretty much the way I expected. It filled with retards who don't actually want a good show. They want woke trash so they can sit around jerking each other off over how they are redpilled and see how woke everything is. Literally the flipside of the people they constantly cry about.
Reminds me why I stopped posting and probably will again.
I guess you didn’t read my message below where I thanked you for the review and said if I can get access to paramount plus I’ll give it a chance. The question was meant as a joke.
I trust the recommendations here. If you thought it was annoyingly woke you would say so.
I generally don’t watch newer stuff unless there is a recommendation and you have provided it. And based on what you say it sounds like it has the feel of previous trek.
Guess I should’ve said it was a joke. But the fact they didn’t dwell on 1/6 and make a speech is a good thing. As for Picard I couldn’t believe Patrick Stewart actually attacked half the audience before the show came out.
I do like that you said it’s a self contained show. Let me try to find a friend who has paramount. Incidentally what’s your favorite trek show ever?
I liked the Abrams movies. The first one was my favorite. TNG is the first trek I saw growing up (born in 80). Loved TOS because it was a way to bond with my father and DS9 was great. Liked Voyager and Enterprise and movies of course.
I’m a big reader and have a lot of Star Wars EU books and felt dumb because I never thought to look for Star Trek books til I was at a sci-fi convention and a guy sold me like 15 books for 20 bucks. Now I have a bunch
TNG was my first trek too, and Picard was my captain. But after Patrick Stewart was given free reign to personally destroy Picard's character, I have have now come to appreciate that Kirk was always the best captain.
No, not really. They're the one selling something, they're competing for my attention as entertainment. And they chose years ago to taint their brand with leftist politics.
There is no more hate in me. No doubt there was some at first, but Kurtzman and Co's works eventually managed to instill complete apathy. As a lifelong trekkie, I feel nothing now. I'm sure the new one is marginally better than STD and Picard. They didn't set a very high bar. You guys enjoy. :)
When they did go near social issues they didn't advocate a particular view (they did show a very short clip of 1/6 among multiple other clips (no Nazi's)). They were basically talking about how humans nearly fucked everything up.
There is no 1/6 in Star Trek. Everything after the Eugenics Wars is entirely different to real events, and every time someone tries to say otherwise they do so to push a political agenda.
And for those following along, the Eugenics Wars took place in the early 1990s. The rest of Star Trek ends up hinging on this pretty tightly despite it being a minor detail until Wrath of Kahn. That's what you get when your most popular movie features a very interesting character with a background in a historical event you now can never ignore.
Voyager ignored it, but Voyager ignored a lot of things. Before we had Kurtzman Trek, we had Berman Trek, and he managed things pretty badly, leading, in my opinion, to the decline of the brand in the 2000s.
Discovery was woke garbage, it never had potential. I gave it an honest chance. I remember I was watching STD S1 and The Orville at the same time as they came out. I had high hopes for STD and figured Orville would just be stupid. As it turned out, Orville had episodes that had serious scifi elements plotlines and good writing, it stomped STD hard. That isn't a measure of how great Orville was, it's a measure of how bad they ruined STD, choosing diversity and wokeness over story.
Picard had potential in S1. I just finished S2, much of it and especially the last two episodes were super painful to get through. I wish I would never have seen any of it. Steaming garbage.
This latest BS is a spinoff of STD. It's going to be full of woke diversity BS. Im done with star trek. It was a good ride. TOS, TNG, VOY, DS9, and ENT will forever have a place in my heart and bring back great memories (some eps I had to pretend never happened because they were so bad, but overall they were legit star trek). All this newer stuff almost ruined the franchise for me. Almost. And that's my fault for watching it. Never again.
I'm leaving lower decks or whatever it's called out of this. I have no opinion of it as I don't watch cartoons.
On top of anything else, Picard totally forgot about the Eugenics War/WW3, and that was brought up by Q when he and Picard first met!
Lower Decks seems to have gotten better in the second season, particularly a couple of late-season2 eps in particular (the one where they take a look at the LD of other species was fun.)
Stick it up your ass. I skip-watched it because it became so much hot garbage that I couldn't take it anymore. This isn't star trek, it isn't even a parody of it. It's smug awful people writing shitty fanfiction and acting out what the mentally unbalanced believe is normal reactions. Only the truly vile could watch this and say it was not only good, but trek.
EDIT: I see this thread went pretty much the way I expected. It filled with retards who don't actually want a good show. They want woke trash so they can sit around jerking each other off over how they are redpilled and see how woke everything is. Literally the flipside of the people they constantly cry about.
More than a third female and it's not a rom-com
More than one unrelated black main character
Created and written by almost entirely by (((Goldsman))) (((Kurtzman))) (((Lumet)))
Studio with history of crap
These are warning signs, not absolute rules. Just like an individual woman can be funny, on a whole they just aren't. So the signs are all pointing that it's going to be garbage.
So you're upset that people aren't agreeing with you, but you've not made any case for this show other than hot chicks and it looks cool. What was actually interesting and captivating about the first episode? For example, pilot Trek asked the question of what is reality and could you knowingly live in a fantasy that you couldn't tell from reality. Pilot TNG put the human race on trial.
Apparently the first episode there's a war and Rodney King the Enterprise shows up and asks "can't we all just get along?!". Wow. That's some high minded theme. Maybe if it turns out to be a unicorn come back after 5-10 episodes and made a real case for it.
Spook is asked by T'Pringle in a restaurant to marry her after they run out of small talk and a Vulcan waiter asks them to leave. He tells her he thought she would never ask. They kiss like this was a romcom. They love each other like it's a romcom. They are gushy about it's a romcom.
Anyone who gives this anything but the harshest rebukes is a nasty, lying cunt who has no idea what Star Trek is and merely wants to troll 'the stans'.
I've disconnecting myself from all those IP's I used to love, that have been ruined. They're dead to me. I'm not going to give them a shred of attention.
I love trek up to the end of Enterprise. Didn’t mind the JJ movies at the time. I wish they would just move far into the future with a new crew. I don’t have paramount plus, but if I ever get a chance to watch I’ll give it a shot. Thanks for the review. I’m sure you can understand why some of us here are jaded by current trek. I have a bunch of trek books to read.
I actually liked Discovery season 1. And while I acknowledge it wasn't good imo it had enough neat moments to offset THE MESSAGE. Which is all I ask for. Lorca was an actually good character for the first half of the season, just watch until "Into the Forest" episode and stop there.
Season 2 was bad but in a fun train wreck way, where any semblance of logic and story coherence is thrown out the window, so it was still watchable.
Season 3 was ALL MESSAGE ALL THE TIME. I noped out a couple of eps in when they added a tranny wesley crusher, whose tranny "boyfriend" hallucination elicited a physical revulsion.
Since they showed 1/6, did they show Floyd riots?
LOL, this entire thread is just YOU announcing that you've already decided anyone who doesn't like your tv show must be blah blah blah. You're a hypocrite and a moron.
I'm sure your wisdom will be missed.
I guess you didn’t read my message below where I thanked you for the review and said if I can get access to paramount plus I’ll give it a chance. The question was meant as a joke.
I trust the recommendations here. If you thought it was annoyingly woke you would say so.
I generally don’t watch newer stuff unless there is a recommendation and you have provided it. And based on what you say it sounds like it has the feel of previous trek.
Guess I should’ve said it was a joke. But the fact they didn’t dwell on 1/6 and make a speech is a good thing. As for Picard I couldn’t believe Patrick Stewart actually attacked half the audience before the show came out.
I do like that you said it’s a self contained show. Let me try to find a friend who has paramount. Incidentally what’s your favorite trek show ever?
I liked the Abrams movies. The first one was my favorite. TNG is the first trek I saw growing up (born in 80). Loved TOS because it was a way to bond with my father and DS9 was great. Liked Voyager and Enterprise and movies of course.
I’m a big reader and have a lot of Star Wars EU books and felt dumb because I never thought to look for Star Trek books til I was at a sci-fi convention and a guy sold me like 15 books for 20 bucks. Now I have a bunch
TNG was my first trek too, and Picard was my captain. But after Patrick Stewart was given free reign to personally destroy Picard's character, I have have now come to appreciate that Kirk was always the best captain.
Nah, Star Trek got written off after Discovery. They don't deserve another chance after that atrocious mess of a show.
No, not really. They're the one selling something, they're competing for my attention as entertainment. And they chose years ago to taint their brand with leftist politics.
I lose nothing by not participating.
There is no more hate in me. No doubt there was some at first, but Kurtzman and Co's works eventually managed to instill complete apathy. As a lifelong trekkie, I feel nothing now. I'm sure the new one is marginally better than STD and Picard. They didn't set a very high bar. You guys enjoy. :)
And yet, they still managed to limbo under it by a mile.
Hard no. Best of luck to you though.
There is no 1/6 in Star Trek. Everything after the Eugenics Wars is entirely different to real events, and every time someone tries to say otherwise they do so to push a political agenda.
And for those following along, the Eugenics Wars took place in the early 1990s. The rest of Star Trek ends up hinging on this pretty tightly despite it being a minor detail until Wrath of Kahn. That's what you get when your most popular movie features a very interesting character with a background in a historical event you now can never ignore.
Voyager ignored it, but Voyager ignored a lot of things. Before we had Kurtzman Trek, we had Berman Trek, and he managed things pretty badly, leading, in my opinion, to the decline of the brand in the 2000s.
Discovery was woke garbage, it never had potential. I gave it an honest chance. I remember I was watching STD S1 and The Orville at the same time as they came out. I had high hopes for STD and figured Orville would just be stupid. As it turned out, Orville had episodes that had serious scifi elements plotlines and good writing, it stomped STD hard. That isn't a measure of how great Orville was, it's a measure of how bad they ruined STD, choosing diversity and wokeness over story.
Picard had potential in S1. I just finished S2, much of it and especially the last two episodes were super painful to get through. I wish I would never have seen any of it. Steaming garbage.
This latest BS is a spinoff of STD. It's going to be full of woke diversity BS. Im done with star trek. It was a good ride. TOS, TNG, VOY, DS9, and ENT will forever have a place in my heart and bring back great memories (some eps I had to pretend never happened because they were so bad, but overall they were legit star trek). All this newer stuff almost ruined the franchise for me. Almost. And that's my fault for watching it. Never again.
I'm leaving lower decks or whatever it's called out of this. I have no opinion of it as I don't watch cartoons.
On top of anything else, Picard totally forgot about the Eugenics War/WW3, and that was brought up by Q when he and Picard first met!
Lower Decks seems to have gotten better in the second season, particularly a couple of late-season2 eps in particular (the one where they take a look at the LD of other species was fun.)
Stick it up your ass. I skip-watched it because it became so much hot garbage that I couldn't take it anymore. This isn't star trek, it isn't even a parody of it. It's smug awful people writing shitty fanfiction and acting out what the mentally unbalanced believe is normal reactions. Only the truly vile could watch this and say it was not only good, but trek.
Your edit only proves you're the real retard.
These are warning signs, not absolute rules. Just like an individual woman can be funny, on a whole they just aren't. So the signs are all pointing that it's going to be garbage.
So you're upset that people aren't agreeing with you, but you've not made any case for this show other than hot chicks and it looks cool. What was actually interesting and captivating about the first episode? For example, pilot Trek asked the question of what is reality and could you knowingly live in a fantasy that you couldn't tell from reality. Pilot TNG put the human race on trial.
Apparently the first episode there's a war and
Rodney Kingthe Enterprise shows up and asks "can't we all just get along?!". Wow. That's some high minded theme. Maybe if it turns out to be a unicorn come back after 5-10 episodes and made a real case for it.Spook is asked by T'Pringle in a restaurant to marry her after they run out of small talk and a Vulcan waiter asks them to leave. He tells her he thought she would never ask. They kiss like this was a romcom. They love each other like it's a romcom. They are gushy about it's a romcom.
Anyone who gives this anything but the harshest rebukes is a nasty, lying cunt who has no idea what Star Trek is and merely wants to troll 'the stans'.
Not gonna.
I've disconnecting myself from all those IP's I used to love, that have been ruined. They're dead to me. I'm not going to give them a shred of attention.
Imagine being so retarded that you watch a Star Trek show unironically in 2022.
Btw, definitely do stop posting here.
I love trek up to the end of Enterprise. Didn’t mind the JJ movies at the time. I wish they would just move far into the future with a new crew. I don’t have paramount plus, but if I ever get a chance to watch I’ll give it a shot. Thanks for the review. I’m sure you can understand why some of us here are jaded by current trek. I have a bunch of trek books to read.
I actually liked Discovery season 1. And while I acknowledge it wasn't good imo it had enough neat moments to offset THE MESSAGE. Which is all I ask for. Lorca was an actually good character for the first half of the season, just watch until "Into the Forest" episode and stop there.
Season 2 was bad but in a fun train wreck way, where any semblance of logic and story coherence is thrown out the window, so it was still watchable.
Season 3 was ALL MESSAGE ALL THE TIME. I noped out a couple of eps in when they added a tranny wesley crusher, whose tranny "boyfriend" hallucination elicited a physical revulsion.
No.
OP closed up shop, but I thought this was too funny not to share...
In episode 5 Spock becomes a woman and gets in touch with his feelings. Ha ha.