Exactly. Why the fucking hard-on for Ukraine? This isn't WWII, and the best the US can get out of this is a weakened and embarrassed Russia, who still controls most of Europe's gas and a bunch of other trade goods.
I don't think setting a "I can do everything short of sending my own troops to your enemy" as the standard in these sorts of situations is a good thing. Historically, the US engages in far more foreign adventures than Russia, and we're just asking them to donate their very best equipment to whoever we end up invading next.
Not to mention the whole problem of creating incentive for countries to create fake wars to get free money from American tax payers and the politicians taking kickbacks.
It's poking the bear. Literally the opposite of what you want to do to win wars.
If you want to go to war, do it fast and completely obliterate or demoralize the enemy. If you want to avoid war, make it clear that that's what you're going to do.
Don't play this game where you enrage them and then run back over the line daring them to attack you.
Nah, the best we get out of this is Russia taking over Ukraine anyway and stealing all the weapons our politicians gave them for who knows what shady favors.
We get a war, of course. Russia will be forced to intervene against us because Ukraine can only resist while being backed by an unlimited supply of arms and ammo.
All this to protect a non-NATO country, because Putin Man Bad.
Or Afghanistan (US and Russia both did that to each other there). But America also didn’t have a senile old man who is very likely linked to some very corrupt business dealings in the invaded country.
What can literally be worse that isn't already known at this point?
We know he extorted foreign nations as VP.
We know he had inappropriate showers with his daughter.
We know his son made an incest sextape with his grand daughter.
We know that covid was created jointly between China and The Obama Admin with Fauci being a key player.
We know that multiple cures were covered up, while at the same time a treatment that murdered patients with remdesivir was pushed.
We know that the mRNA vacs are poison that have massively increased cancer, infertility, heart attacks, blood clots, myocarditis, neurological problems. That they've almost certainly killed more than 100,000 people in the US alone.
As if the Russian's haven't gotten their hands on that already. Frankly, I think at least half of their dirty laundry from Ukraine specifically is already in public view, if not more (barring specifics and nitty gritty detail). There is enough public circumstantial evidence that would damn any other ordinary fool in the public eye or the news...but the corruption within our own organizations runs too deep to.
The people in this country are so stupid they don't realize they're just participating in a power struggle. They think they are in a good vs evil battle, that's the sick part. You can trust someone who has a clear self interest to act in that interest. People who legitimately believe they act for the "good of humanity" are basically just narcissistic psychopaths.
What do Americans gain from this? Could we at the very least force Ukraine to pay us in 20yo Ukrainian women having to marry our white males?
Exactly. Why the fucking hard-on for Ukraine? This isn't WWII, and the best the US can get out of this is a weakened and embarrassed Russia, who still controls most of Europe's gas and a bunch of other trade goods.
I don't think setting a "I can do everything short of sending my own troops to your enemy" as the standard in these sorts of situations is a good thing. Historically, the US engages in far more foreign adventures than Russia, and we're just asking them to donate their very best equipment to whoever we end up invading next.
Not to mention the whole problem of creating incentive for countries to create fake wars to get free money from American tax payers and the politicians taking kickbacks.
Bingo.
Follow the j...... I mean money.
It's poking the bear. Literally the opposite of what you want to do to win wars. If you want to go to war, do it fast and completely obliterate or demoralize the enemy. If you want to avoid war, make it clear that that's what you're going to do. Don't play this game where you enrage them and then run back over the line daring them to attack you.
That’s not how modern wars work. The goal is extended trafficking & money laundering as well testing out new toys.
One could argue they are Khazars with a very long feud with the Rus.
Nah, the best we get out of this is Russia taking over Ukraine anyway and stealing all the weapons our politicians gave them for who knows what shady favors.
Because the Democrats backed the Euromaidan and don't want Russia regime changing their regime change.
Because the Democrats still want to regime change Russia and are itching for any excuse to do so.
Because Hunter Biden is waist deep in corruption in Ukraine, so Joe Biden doesn't want Russia killing his kickbacks and unearthing his skeletons.
Because Biden keeps shitting the bed and he wants the stolen valour of the Ukrainian defense / a Russian scapegoat for his sabotage.
We get a war, of course. Russia will be forced to intervene against us because Ukraine can only resist while being backed by an unlimited supply of arms and ammo.
All this to protect a non-NATO country, because Putin Man Bad.
Well, America didn't intervene on the Russians when they supplied(including pilots) in North Korea and in Vietnam.
Or Afghanistan (US and Russia both did that to each other there). But America also didn’t have a senile old man who is very likely linked to some very corrupt business dealings in the invaded country.
They don't release the blackmail on the Bidens, Pelosi, Rodney's etc.
What can literally be worse that isn't already known at this point?
We know he extorted foreign nations as VP.
We know he had inappropriate showers with his daughter.
We know his son made an incest sextape with his grand daughter.
We know that covid was created jointly between China and The Obama Admin with Fauci being a key player.
We know that multiple cures were covered up, while at the same time a treatment that murdered patients with remdesivir was pushed.
We know that the mRNA vacs are poison that have massively increased cancer, infertility, heart attacks, blood clots, myocarditis, neurological problems. That they've almost certainly killed more than 100,000 people in the US alone.
As if the Russian's haven't gotten their hands on that already. Frankly, I think at least half of their dirty laundry from Ukraine specifically is already in public view, if not more (barring specifics and nitty gritty detail). There is enough public circumstantial evidence that would damn any other ordinary fool in the public eye or the news...but the corruption within our own organizations runs too deep to.
They gain the war they want. Why do you think the first lend lease happened during WWII?
The people in this country are so stupid they don't realize they're just participating in a power struggle. They think they are in a good vs evil battle, that's the sick part. You can trust someone who has a clear self interest to act in that interest. People who legitimately believe they act for the "good of humanity" are basically just narcissistic psychopaths.