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Where are the Western powers when Ukraine admits to preparing to commit war crimes (twitter.com)
posted 4 years ago by Gumpfinest 4 years ago by Gumpfinest +31 / -0
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– KeeperOfTheGate 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

What's the war crime? Killing invaders?

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– Kweebecker 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Declaring "No Prisoners!" is a war crime.

Surrendered people aren't active combatants, and therefore are considered innocents and civilians. And you don't massacre civvies.

Unlike "Civilians" who are armed with molotovs and whatnot, who are actually active enemy combatants. Them, you can kill, so long as they don't drop their weapons and surrender.

You may hate it, and it was drafted by lawyers so you know, they're probably used to being hated, but the moment the Ukrainian government said on Twitter in a mass broadcast to all civvies to arm all the civvies with incendiaries, was the moment it was legal for Russia to kill them all. Much like EVERY SINGLE TIME IT HAPPENS, grandstanding on twitter is not a good idea when multiple legal issues are involved.

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– deleted 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0
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– Grumman 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

And that is why nobody takes conventions seriously.

The conventions are interpreted generously because they were never written to outlaw military necessity. But if you are declaring ahead of time your intention to commit a war crime, that's premeditated.

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– cartoonericroberts 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

It's the same reason putting up "trespassers will be shot" signs is a real fucking bad idea even in stand your ground states.

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– covok48 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Only if you lose.

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
... continue reading thread?
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– covok48 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Funny how the rules of war don’t actually apply when there really is a war.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Is that what they're saying? I just took the tweet to me they're not going to hold back when attacking (if they really even were to begin with...it's propaganda all the way down).

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– Grumman 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

From the Hague Convention of 1907:

In addition to the prohibitions provided by special Conventions, it is especially forbidden

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To kill or wound an enemy who, having laid down his arms, or having no longer means of defence, has surrendered at discretion;

To declare that no quarter will be given;

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– covok48 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That convention hasn’t been followed since the day it was written.

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