I'm delusional and haven't learned a thing. My IQ is so low that introspection is beyond my intellectual capacity and I will never be able to grow or mature as a human being.
Fuck man, I was doing shit like ripping "sexist" adverts and things off walls back then. I'm as far from being remotely that stupid as can be today lol
My first vote in a Presidential election was for Bernie, though I was predisposed to questioning thanks to being called a racist misogynist transphobe for being weirded out by shit like Gamergate and troons in speedrunning. Now I openly yet subtly question "The plans". Slowly but surely showing people how fucked everything is by their own logic.
Reasonable leftists are still a thing, but they're a dying breed. I was one for a long time. You can only be told "don't believe your lying eyes" so many times before you get sick of the gaslighting.
I never considered myself right wing and still don't but they haven't been giving me much choice this last half-decade plus. Many other "right wingers" I know are in the same boat. Nicki Minaj will lead us to victory.
This. Anyone who questions "The plan" is quickly shunned and whipped by the cult and told to go to confession and do public pennance. If someone was actually reasonable they would realize what the fuck was going on and leave. This is why the "Smart" "Leader" leftists UTTERLY FEAR centralists and moderates, because they know that one of their cult babies will incite conflict at the slightest provocitation, and thus the only plan is to prevent anyone from ever questioning.
Remember that big political meme from the 2000's/early 2010's of "I'm socially liberal but financially conservative"? And how you haven't heard that phrase since? Every one of those people was tarred and feathered by people they considered their friends, and that program was discontinued.
Find me one, I dare you. Leftism as an ideology requires the participant to either be too stupid to realize that their ideas have killed a hundred million people, or too evil to care.
Correct. There are no reasonable leftists but there are low IQ ones. You can only be a leftist if you're brainwashed which means you aren't reasonable.
You can find "reasonable liberals" who're mostly just classical liberals that haven't realized their movement led to leftism yet.
But then again, imo it's pretty easy to see how things would play out if the left of today came into power and just on that alone I don't see how anyone could still call themselves a leftist. The stakes are way too high for that.
Reasonable leftists is like a seal loving penguin. They all get snuffed out early. You can probably find a number of people like that dispersed around the high school crowd, individuals who want to be good and kind to others and haven't yet experienced the hot poker of being accused of wrongthink yet.
That's the problem with accepting emotional rationale for your ethics--somebody can always claim a greater emotional cause. It generates a moral arms race that shifts the ideology further and further to the fringe. Most left thinkers don't have a concrete set of moral stances--just "Suffering is bad, and we should prevent suffering wherever we can". Well, suffering is unfortunately not objective and thus the goalposts move themselves.
I'm not going to downvote you for your answer being basically "Joe Lieberman", but the Democrat party of the 50s was fully in bed with the USSR, an outright foreign enemy of the nation. Hell they were in the 20s too, if it wasn't for Roosevelt and his cabal of socialists the United States would be a very different, and much better, place than it is right now.
I'm not so sure that the issue is left vs right. Once you cut past the identity politics, which undoubtedly exist on both sides, the truth is that we have more in common than not. From what I've observed the non idpol, anti-establishment left and new right all see many of the same problems in society and ultimately want a lot of the same things, just radically differ on the solutions.
The identity politics we see today were instituted during OWS because people were starting to become united across the political spectrum against the corrupt elites.
That post is stamped at 2012. It's possible they aren't so leftist anymore.
Fuck man, I was doing shit like ripping "sexist" adverts and things off walls back then. I'm as far from being remotely that stupid as can be today lol
So, boobs good?
tits are life, ass is hometown
boob good
My first vote in a Presidential election was for Bernie, though I was predisposed to questioning thanks to being called a racist misogynist transphobe for being weirded out by shit like Gamergate and troons in speedrunning. Now I openly yet subtly question "The plans". Slowly but surely showing people how fucked everything is by their own logic.
GamerGate moment: When you say No to a woman and all your "friends" go full Fair Game on you
I could believe it. It would be another two years from there that I finally started seeing their true colors.
Fair enough.
2012? I guess 2016 or there abouts is the cutoff then.
Reasonable leftists are still a thing, but they're a dying breed. I was one for a long time. You can only be told "don't believe your lying eyes" so many times before you get sick of the gaslighting.
Reasonable leftists become right wing death squad enthusiasts.
I never considered myself right wing and still don't but they haven't been giving me much choice this last half-decade plus. Many other "right wingers" I know are in the same boat. Nicki Minaj will lead us to victory.
Not a former leftist, but ex-libertarian; the pipeline is real, we need RWDS
Would you settle for helicopters?
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This. Anyone who questions "The plan" is quickly shunned and whipped by the cult and told to go to confession and do public pennance. If someone was actually reasonable they would realize what the fuck was going on and leave. This is why the "Smart" "Leader" leftists UTTERLY FEAR centralists and moderates, because they know that one of their cult babies will incite conflict at the slightest provocitation, and thus the only plan is to prevent anyone from ever questioning.
Remember that big political meme from the 2000's/early 2010's of "I'm socially liberal but financially conservative"? And how you haven't heard that phrase since? Every one of those people was tarred and feathered by people they considered their friends, and that program was discontinued.
Heh, it's well known the disident right asorbed the libertarian left.
Find me one, I dare you. Leftism as an ideology requires the participant to either be too stupid to realize that their ideas have killed a hundred million people, or too evil to care.
Correct. There are no reasonable leftists but there are low IQ ones. You can only be a leftist if you're brainwashed which means you aren't reasonable.
You can find "reasonable liberals" who're mostly just classical liberals that haven't realized their movement led to leftism yet.
Glenn Greenwald seems pretty sensible.
But then again, imo it's pretty easy to see how things would play out if the left of today came into power and just on that alone I don't see how anyone could still call themselves a leftist. The stakes are way too high for that.
Reasonable leftists is like a seal loving penguin. They all get snuffed out early. You can probably find a number of people like that dispersed around the high school crowd, individuals who want to be good and kind to others and haven't yet experienced the hot poker of being accused of wrongthink yet.
That's the problem with accepting emotional rationale for your ethics--somebody can always claim a greater emotional cause. It generates a moral arms race that shifts the ideology further and further to the fringe. Most left thinkers don't have a concrete set of moral stances--just "Suffering is bad, and we should prevent suffering wherever we can". Well, suffering is unfortunately not objective and thus the goalposts move themselves.
I'm not going to downvote you for your answer being basically "Joe Lieberman", but the Democrat party of the 50s was fully in bed with the USSR, an outright foreign enemy of the nation. Hell they were in the 20s too, if it wasn't for Roosevelt and his cabal of socialists the United States would be a very different, and much better, place than it is right now.
Midwit seems more likely honestly.
I'm not so sure that the issue is left vs right. Once you cut past the identity politics, which undoubtedly exist on both sides, the truth is that we have more in common than not. From what I've observed the non idpol, anti-establishment left and new right all see many of the same problems in society and ultimately want a lot of the same things, just radically differ on the solutions.
The identity politics we see today were instituted during OWS because people were starting to become united across the political spectrum against the corrupt elites.
Eh, if by far leftist he just means that he still hates (((bankers))) it's not that bad.