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posted 4 years ago by TheImpossible1 4 years ago by TheImpossible1 +42 / -0
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– cartoonericroberts 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

And? That's the biggest fucking nothingburger. Oh no. A telegram!?

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– LauriThorne 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

How ignorant of history can you get?

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– Ragnar09 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Wiki is such a great source right?

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– LauriThorne 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Nice non sequitur my dude

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– cartoonericroberts 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

If you think American blood and treasure should be sacrificed because some other sovereign nation sent a telegram to some other sovereign nation then you are part of the problem. Like fucking shit do you really believe that?

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– LauriThorne 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Do you know what the contents of the telegram were?

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– cartoonericroberts 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yes. Firstly, if we stayed neutral the conditions of the deal would not apply, so what's the problem?. What is the argument here? "If we entered the war and this arrangement was accepted by Mexico they would invade us so we should- enter the war?" If we don't enter the war there's no reason to enter the war. You're literally falling for 100 year old propaganda; it should be past its Best By date at this point.

If it doesn't violate US sovereignty fuck it. Who cares. Think how simple this makes it. Some telegram? What did it say? It doesn't matter not our sovereign territory, fuck it. What if Mexico invades? Then that is our sovereign territory so we'll fuck them up if it comes to that. Germany is trying to recapture territory it lost the last time? Not our sovereign territory, fuck it. Soviets are supporting communist rebels in east asia? Fuck it. Soviets is doing that again? Not our sovereign territory, fuck it. Iraqi troops are throwing babies out of incubators in Kuwait. Is it true? Doesn't matter not our sovereign territory, fuck it. Some planes hit our towers? That is our sovereign territory. Let's fuck some shit up and then leave after we fuck said shit up instead of staying there because it isn't our sovereign territory. Weapons of mass destruction? Is it true? Doesn't matter. That's not our fucking sovereign territory. Chemical weapons dropped on civilians? Who did it? It doesn't matter because it wasn't our sovereign territory. It's so simple you don't even need an intelligence agency!

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– covok48 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

We’re not giving up Texas, New Mexico and Arizona. Sorry,

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– cartoonericroberts 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Just because Germany sends a telegram doesn't give Mexico possession of the territory. Firstly it is contingent on America entering the war. Germany wanted to keep us out of the war so they aren't going to invade for no reason. How is 100 year old propaganda still this fucking effective? Talking about violating our sovereignty if we violate theirs is not the same as actually violating our sovereignty.

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