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Thoughys on X-men 97 coming to Disney Plus+? (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 4 years ago by PresidentBossk1 4 years ago by PresidentBossk1 +12 / -0
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– Galean 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

The old cartoons had an interesting spin on racism. It had no solutions per say, for one you had humans that feared mutants and what they could do, and wanted to feel safe - the racists, but they were not being mocked or ridiculed for it.

And you had the mutants doing bat shit crazy stuff and being actual threats. The mutants were not some idealistic victims of society.

There is a line in the first X-men movie that stuck with me, it was something about having kids with weapons in schools. This covers the x-men racism very well.

The issue becomes even more interesting when you have mutants that can mind control or create illusions. You had mutants more dangerous then nuclear bombs.

1992 leftists, that believed in free speech, individual liberty, personal responsibility, treating everyone based on their character did a good job navigating all of this issues from a neutral perspective.

Who here believes that leftists today will not turn the show in to evil humans vs poor oppressed mutants with Sentinels as modern police designed to step on the neck of mutant fentanyl users?

I'm also certain that there is going to be a major difference in team dynamic. You had an old, straight, white male leader that everyone respects, Rogue was a southern redneck, Wolverine was manly and Jean was a red-head.

This show will either be unrecognizable or canceled by woke mobs.

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– Norenia 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Meanwhile, Magneto is a literal race supremacist. But mutants aren't supposed to be expies for white people. Hmm...

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– CarmenOfSandiego 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

The mutants were not some idealistic victims of society.

Very much this.

The comics have dealt with a very large range of powers even when it's just been one off characters.

This has included beings so beyond powerful the only way to deal with them was to erased them from ever existing like Matthew Malloy from Uncanny X-Men (3) #23: https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Matthew_Malloy_(Earth-14923).

Originally his powers manifest in full after being confronted by existing PTSD of his wife dying in front of him during an alien attack years earlier. When he meets his wife's sister she tries to talk to him about the past and he snaps. With so much existing suppression he quite literally explodes and nukes the town he lives in.

On a more tragic note was a teenager in Ultimate X-Men 41 that manifested the power to secrete toxins that burned organic material within a radius. This included his family before he woke up, people he walked past on his way to school, everyone at his school once there, and his girlfriend right before his eyes.

In the end Wolverine is sent to deal with him to prevent the obvious fallout such an event would cause. Despite Wolverine's bloody history and track record as a killer and assassin through the years he still tries to offer the kid some comfort before the inevitable as nobody else would survive long enough once they got near.

Both tragic characters who have the potential to cause unbelievable levels of death and destruction that for the most part are a consequence of simply existing. There's no malice behind what they do, especially in the teenager's case, they simply are. That's why many are terrified of them, it's tangible dangers that can and have wiped out countless populations through either intentional acts or accidental ones.

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– Smith1980 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Great points all around. I see that happening too

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– JiggsawCalrissian 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Another childhood memory dragged to the alter to be murdered in front of me

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– SupremeReader 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Fuck Nu-Disney. That is all.

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– acp_k2win 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

there wont be a single attractive woman, all the men will be gay, the enemy will be racism

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– Galean 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Can you imagine what they will do to Wolverine? There is no way they will allow a white, manly, competent guy in a modern show, there is a slim chance if they race swap but that is about it.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

there is a slim chance if they race swap but that is about it.

Laura exists, and was actually originally created in the X-Men: Evolution cartoon before moving to the comics so what they could do in this reboot is kill off Logan in the premier episode much like they did originally with Morph in episode 2 when also introducing Jubilee to the team [and sort of replacing Morph by filling the empty team spot with her].

Have the show start with the team finding cloning stuff/tracking down a mutant killer. Ends up being X-23. Logan gives his life to save her from the life of murder and pain he's gone through already.

Bonus points: Kill Cyclops for whatever reason and have Jean Grey or Storm the leader despite their tenures in the comics never going well because

CYCLOPS WAS RIGHT!

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– RealDrJester 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

The chances of sucking increased exponentially when it became a disney+ exclusive, then more news that the executive producer is a racist woke retard came out, jubilee VA virtue signalling by not wanting to voice the character and demanding an Asian actress do it instead...

Every news that comes out increases the chance it will become another He-Man

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– Devidose 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

jubilee VA virtue signalling by not wanting to voice the character and demanding an Asian actress do it instead...

Always a head/chin scratcher when someone advocates for their own firing and replacement from their employment 🤔

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You are not only one. But I have come to a conclusion they are doing this to avoid being attacked by the exceptionally expected woke inquisition. Especially that virtue signaling points seems to be worth more than dollars today.

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– Knife-TotingRat 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Some people seek Martyrdom.

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– PresidentBossk1 [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I have heard people say the creators are woke, but I've looked around and couldn't find any evidence for that. The writer did the Witcher show, was that any good? I feel like this could actually be good if done right, but I think X-men, with its ant-racist themes, could easily be turned into some woke garbage for BLM and the like.

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– Galean 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I'm calling it, the show will have MLM riots after a Sentinel kills a mutant by sitting on his neck.

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– acp_k2win 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Meme it into reality bro!

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– DontDoxMeBreaux 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

The writer did the Witcher show

Never saw it myself, but the general consensus I saw was that it was pretty bad. Again, never saw it myself, just passing along what I heard.

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– Galean 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I haven't seen it either but my leftist brother did and he said it was ok but even he did not understand why there was so much focus on female characters in the first season and why in the world are there black elves.

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– CarmenOfSandiego 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The writer did the Witcher show, was that any good?

No. No it was not.

Before even getting on to the main points I'll point out one of the biggest problems the show had:

Witchers live a long time, this means they very often meet people when they are children and again as adults while not changing themselves that much. So stories involving a witcher can easily span numerous decades, as happened in the books and games often. The show also attempted this, however the changes between past and present were so difficult to follow at times many didn't even know it was meant to be happening and it confused the fuck out of many, even those who had read the books!

Main rant time.

The show is called The Witcher. The games are called that, the books are called that, even the Polish tv show The Hexer is about the character Geralt of Rivia who is as per the eponymous title, someone who goes around dealing with problems that for the most part deal with monsters and such. The Netflix show was more about other characters than Geralt because modern day woke agendas that ignore source material in favor of "YAAAS QUEEN!"

Wheel of Time is doing the exact same thing btw.

On top of the misdirection of the show not following Geralt, a lot of heavy lore points have been changed meaning many significant parts of Geralt's story just aren't as important now, such as his original meeting with Ciri just not being in the fucking show!

Then there's the casting: Yen is meant to be very pale [and white] hence why she wears black and silver so much because "It matches her complexion". It's an actual quote used by her at one point.

Fringilla is meant to be extremely similar in appearance to Yen which is why she gets sent to "distract" Geralt when he's in Toussaint looking for Ciri because her similarity is so striking she manages to seduce him quite easily. Of further note Fringilla is a cousin to the future Duchess of Toussaint that appears in the 3rd game DLC and also a distant relative of the Emperor of Nilfgaard meaning by blackwashing one character they also introduce likely race changes to an empire that's more or less The Holy Empire of Rome that dress all in black, use black sails on their ships, and have an extremely conservative dress scheme where things are generally black and whites/greys with only someone like the Emperor himself having additional colors on his clothing.

Want to know what this great abundance of black armor, clothes, and other things causes most other factions in !NotPoland to call Nilfgaard?

"The Black Ones".

So I'm looking forward to that one fucking exploding in their faces.

Triss is another blackwashing that occurred where someone pale with "chestnut" colored hair became someone so drab looking that fans of the books and games had no fucking clue it was meant to be her. So again a redhead being turned into a black character.

I'd say Henry being Geralt is one of the few saving graces for the show but considering he's a massive fan of the franchise himself he deserves so much fucking better than being used as a draw for normie audiences, especially after his stint as Superman was just as wasted in regards to potential.

tl;dr it's another woke, Netflix, shitshow

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– Smith1980 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Probably gonna suck. I have very little faith in most modern shows/writers

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