I do think that's one of the reasons I pretty much only bother to participate here anymore. The user base is much more attuned to tricks. They also don't mind if you ask for context most of the time if it is questionable. Honestly TheDonald/Patriots was coming too much of an echo chamber to me, discussion and questioning things too stifled, and something I think it's important to discuss even agreeable things to better understand.
They're midwits. Both the patriots and consumeproduct fags. Just smart enough to absorb info but not smart enough to critically analyze it. Basically the reddit r/politics types but politically reversed.
Go to patriots and say you don't think that Trump was the best leader of all time? Go to consumeproduct and say you don't think that catholics are 120% right about everything? good luck
inb4 "ur just a butthurt lefty"
Hate to admit it, but I probably have more positions in common with an actual Nazi than I do with anyone in mainstream politics. Not because the Nazis were awesome but because modern mainstream politics are retarded
But every position should be heard out so it can be critically analyzed. If you aren't willing to hear out viewpoints you disagree with then you are likely not intelligent enough to defend your own point of view.
/pol/ came along due to excessive listening and analysis
Fixed it for you.
Consumeproduct is just cherry picked tidbits from /pol/, /pol/ is better simply because there is no upvote/downvote system, allowing the correct ideas to stand on their own regardless of popularity.
also lol what
A good percentage of the users there have a hardon for Roman Catholicism, and don't like it when you point out that the institution can't actually be traced back to the time of Christ or his apostles. Not to get too spergy here since its not the time or place, but the short version is that It's less a church and more the political heir of the Roman Empire. And that's not even getting into the Jew-related stuff, like the Vatican's financial history going back to the renaissance or the origins of certain orders like the Jesuits.
/pol/ is cuck fetishists, self-haters, NEETs and feds, if you think that compares in any way, shape, or form to consumeproduct.win you got some conceptualization issues you should sort out.
consumeproduct.win has the opposite problem, which is they've locked themselves in an ideological box and won't think outside of it. This is inherently a weakness regardless of whether they are right about some things.
And the ideas they discuss wouldn't exist without the culture that grew up around /pol/, so dunking on /pol/ is kind of a moot point
The biggerTD gets the more it happens. People have low standards. On screenshots of news articles there is always someone asking for a link to the article because the foolish OP doesn't post one. Often times the article is a couple years old. People are stupid. /shrug.
I would love if we had some rules against shiposts like those.
Okay, I'll be honest, there's two "users" I particularly have in mind at plebbit Kia2 that are really bad about it. I'd report em if they were breaking any rules, believe me, they aren't. And the two accounts mainly just post all of their trash at all the "conservative" subs.
I've been trying to post more content both here and there to help add more stuff that isn't junk, be the change you want to see and all that, but it's definitely a problem.
Most egregious one I can remember seeing, off the top of my head, was that screenshot of a purported Scientific American article defending pedophilia. A commentor calls it out (with sources) as a doctored screen of what was originally a years old article on homosexuality and the user deletes his post right after.
Do I really want more rules? For the most part no.. Honestly I think our mods have done a good job there, but I don't think it'd hurt to have a requirement for links to the original source when possible when the post is a screenshot. Just something to require a modicum of effort and help give readers the info to verify what they're reading for themselves.
Ever think that your conspiracy theories and "noticing" things might be what "They" want you to do? That by focusing on the old canard of anti-semitism you're completely fucking missing the actual battle that's going on?
You want to know how to keep losing the culture ways? Keep on doing what you're doing.
Let me put it this way. Let's say, hypothetically speaking, that you are 100% correct. Jews are part of a worldwide conspiracy, they totally control governments, Hollywood, schools, etc. Worldwide all Jews have some goal that they are working in concert to achieve, it's malicious and deliberate.
Have you convinced one single person to your side by ranting about the "JQ" and "goy" and making every debate "it's because of the (((Jews)))"?
How many people have you turned off? How many people have come to KiA2, seen these kind of posts (or, for that matter, TheImpossible1) and said "Fuck it, I thought there was something interesting here, but this is the exact caricature of the far right I always heard about--rambling, ranting, insanely anti-semitic, etc.
From a purely utilitarian perspective, even IF you were totally right, your tactics are totally wrong.
I do think that's one of the reasons I pretty much only bother to participate here anymore. The user base is much more attuned to tricks. They also don't mind if you ask for context most of the time if it is questionable. Honestly TheDonald/Patriots was coming too much of an echo chamber to me, discussion and questioning things too stifled, and something I think it's important to discuss even agreeable things to better understand.
They're in a purity spiral.
Don't even get me started on ConsumeJewHate.win
I'm not sure why making fun of funky pop soy fags led to actual fascism but whatever.
They're midwits. Both the patriots and consumeproduct fags. Just smart enough to absorb info but not smart enough to critically analyze it. Basically the reddit r/politics types but politically reversed.
Go to patriots and say you don't think that Trump was the best leader of all time? Go to consumeproduct and say you don't think that catholics are 120% right about everything? good luck
Hate to admit it, but I probably have more positions in common with an actual Nazi than I do with anyone in mainstream politics. Not because the Nazis were awesome but because modern mainstream politics are retarded
But every position should be heard out so it can be critically analyzed. If you aren't willing to hear out viewpoints you disagree with then you are likely not intelligent enough to defend your own point of view.
consumeproduct.win came along due to excessive listening and analysis
i wager you're not quite ready to accept that though
also lol what
Fixed it for you.
Consumeproduct is just cherry picked tidbits from /pol/, /pol/ is better simply because there is no upvote/downvote system, allowing the correct ideas to stand on their own regardless of popularity.
A good percentage of the users there have a hardon for Roman Catholicism, and don't like it when you point out that the institution can't actually be traced back to the time of Christ or his apostles. Not to get too spergy here since its not the time or place, but the short version is that It's less a church and more the political heir of the Roman Empire. And that's not even getting into the Jew-related stuff, like the Vatican's financial history going back to the renaissance or the origins of certain orders like the Jesuits.
top post right now
/pol/ is cuck fetishists, self-haters, NEETs and feds, if you think that compares in any way, shape, or form to consumeproduct.win you got some conceptualization issues you should sort out.
consumeproduct.win has the opposite problem, which is they've locked themselves in an ideological box and won't think outside of it. This is inherently a weakness regardless of whether they are right about some things.
And the ideas they discuss wouldn't exist without the culture that grew up around /pol/, so dunking on /pol/ is kind of a moot point
you sound like you're describing ihateniggers.com. you sure you ever been to consumeproduct?
I pointed this out to a person on NNN last week and told them we have to classify that post as misinformation. They weren't happy about that.
You see the same thing here occasionally, though as you say, usually it's caught.
https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/12jd4sKLQJ/pfizer-ceos-israel-visit-cancele/c/
Article posts a tweet in Aug 5, 2021 of an article originally released March 7, 2021. Posters called it out.
The biggerTD gets the more it happens. People have low standards. On screenshots of news articles there is always someone asking for a link to the article because the foolish OP doesn't post one. Often times the article is a couple years old. People are stupid. /shrug.
Do not attribute to stupidity that which you can attribute to malice.
If the last few years haven't taught you that, I don't know what will.
I would love if we had some rules against shiposts like those.
Okay, I'll be honest, there's two "users" I particularly have in mind at plebbit Kia2 that are really bad about it. I'd report em if they were breaking any rules, believe me, they aren't. And the two accounts mainly just post all of their trash at all the "conservative" subs.
I've been trying to post more content both here and there to help add more stuff that isn't junk, be the change you want to see and all that, but it's definitely a problem.
Thats fair.
Most egregious one I can remember seeing, off the top of my head, was that screenshot of a purported Scientific American article defending pedophilia. A commentor calls it out (with sources) as a doctored screen of what was originally a years old article on homosexuality and the user deletes his post right after.
Do I really want more rules? For the most part no.. Honestly I think our mods have done a good job there, but I don't think it'd hurt to have a requirement for links to the original source when possible when the post is a screenshot. Just something to require a modicum of effort and help give readers the info to verify what they're reading for themselves.
Ever think that your conspiracy theories and "noticing" things might be what "They" want you to do? That by focusing on the old canard of anti-semitism you're completely fucking missing the actual battle that's going on?
You want to know how to keep losing the culture ways? Keep on doing what you're doing.
Plot twist: The most vehement neonazi trolls constantly warning anons about the JIDF are actually JIDF.
Of course I’ve considered it
What’s the actual battle I’m missing?
Hit me with the missing link, fren
Let me put it this way. Let's say, hypothetically speaking, that you are 100% correct. Jews are part of a worldwide conspiracy, they totally control governments, Hollywood, schools, etc. Worldwide all Jews have some goal that they are working in concert to achieve, it's malicious and deliberate.
Have you convinced one single person to your side by ranting about the "JQ" and "goy" and making every debate "it's because of the (((Jews)))"?
How many people have you turned off? How many people have come to KiA2, seen these kind of posts (or, for that matter, TheImpossible1) and said "Fuck it, I thought there was something interesting here, but this is the exact caricature of the far right I always heard about--rambling, ranting, insanely anti-semitic, etc.
From a purely utilitarian perspective, even IF you were totally right, your tactics are totally wrong.
So what's the missing link?
What's the actual battle going on that I'm missing?
You started ranting about da Joooz because someone said that Twitter screenshots don't have dates?