Me getting vaccinated or not changes little. If you are vaccinated then you should feel safe regardless of my vaccinated status.
It is not I who is forcing lockdowns and restrictions upon you despite being vaccinated.
Why not protest those that are actually affecting you.
They are claiming that the unvaxxed are using a greater share of our finite healthcare resources. It is questionable whether or not this is even true - recent data points to the vaccines doing almost nothing to protect anyone - but even if the argument were valid, you won't see leftists applying it to any other choices people make. No one is denying healthcare to fatasses or drug addicts or criminals or illegal aliens, yet all of these people have made selfish decisions that strain our healthcare resources. The left simply doesn't care about coherence or consistency of principles or values. Leftists will say whatever they need to say to get what they want in any given situation.
Is not incorrect is just that we will always see variants. Like the flue, viruses like this, that also affect animals will never go away and they will have new strains every year.
Second if I get it and survive I will not be spreading the virus, my immunity will be better then the vaccinated and I will be stronger against the new strains. At least I've seen no evidence to the contrary.
More then that, from what I understand vaccinated individuals can also somehow spread the virus. So again I see no reason why my vaccinated status should matter. If anything, if I do not vaccinate and had the virus I'm safer around them then a vaccinated person.
Is to much scare and to little logical discussion on the subject going on.
Clearly you haven't been paying attention to the dominant rhetoric over the last 20 years. People have already been making those claims for years now, this whole "vaccination or no healthcare" thing is just the continuation of the general theme of leftism.
The only exception is Abortion, but that's fine because Leftists don't care about logical consistancy, only what secures themselves
An example from my state. I'm told it's like this because "north carolina elected to not expand medicaid" (my social worker family member tells me). So if you're poor in NC and apply for medicaid, they reject you but you get the second prize of free vasectomies (while technically being enrolled in medicaid for numbers that look nice to outsiders that don't realize there's tiers). I assume it's because we give incentives here for having children so it's practically a second welfare system.
Beaurocratic stuff makes my head hurt, so I may have some details wrong, but this is my best current understanding. They at least try to make it discreet by not saying upfront what it is, but "family planning" is the tip-off.
The entire welfare state is predicated on the concept that other people’s shitty decisions and mistakes are my direct financial problem. If they are arguing to end all welfare the fine, I’ll stand back and let them do it. Then we can talk about vaccines and voluntary exiles or voluntary expatriation.
Why nobody has made the correlation that leftism = corporatism = conformity.
Corporations can make leftists dance to their tune at any time because the typical leftist has been primed by decades of a leftist education and media system that convinces them if they follow their tune, they're both on the right side of history and are unique, brave individuals.
Of course, nobody sees the irony of millions of people taking their cues from massive multinational corporations as being a statement of individuality, but that's leftist thinking in general. Conform to the non-conformity of society.
"Your choice affects the rest of us" - how?
Me getting vaccinated or not changes little. If you are vaccinated then you should feel safe regardless of my vaccinated status. It is not I who is forcing lockdowns and restrictions upon you despite being vaccinated. Why not protest those that are actually affecting you.
They are claiming that the unvaxxed are using a greater share of our finite healthcare resources. It is questionable whether or not this is even true - recent data points to the vaccines doing almost nothing to protect anyone - but even if the argument were valid, you won't see leftists applying it to any other choices people make. No one is denying healthcare to fatasses or drug addicts or criminals or illegal aliens, yet all of these people have made selfish decisions that strain our healthcare resources. The left simply doesn't care about coherence or consistency of principles or values. Leftists will say whatever they need to say to get what they want in any given situation.
Is not incorrect is just that we will always see variants. Like the flue, viruses like this, that also affect animals will never go away and they will have new strains every year.
Second if I get it and survive I will not be spreading the virus, my immunity will be better then the vaccinated and I will be stronger against the new strains. At least I've seen no evidence to the contrary.
More then that, from what I understand vaccinated individuals can also somehow spread the virus. So again I see no reason why my vaccinated status should matter. If anything, if I do not vaccinate and had the virus I'm safer around them then a vaccinated person.
Is to much scare and to little logical discussion on the subject going on.
Clearly you haven't been paying attention to the dominant rhetoric over the last 20 years. People have already been making those claims for years now, this whole "vaccination or no healthcare" thing is just the continuation of the general theme of leftism.
The only exception is Abortion, but that's fine because Leftists don't care about logical consistancy, only what secures themselves
Is that a thing?
Via taxation.
https://medicaid.ncdhhs.gov/providers/programs-services/family-planning-and-maternity/be-smart-medicaid-family-planning
An example from my state. I'm told it's like this because "north carolina elected to not expand medicaid" (my social worker family member tells me). So if you're poor in NC and apply for medicaid, they reject you but you get the second prize of free vasectomies (while technically being enrolled in medicaid for numbers that look nice to outsiders that don't realize there's tiers). I assume it's because we give incentives here for having children so it's practically a second welfare system.
Beaurocratic stuff makes my head hurt, so I may have some details wrong, but this is my best current understanding. They at least try to make it discreet by not saying upfront what it is, but "family planning" is the tip-off.
The entire welfare state is predicated on the concept that other people’s shitty decisions and mistakes are my direct financial problem. If they are arguing to end all welfare the fine, I’ll stand back and let them do it. Then we can talk about vaccines and voluntary exiles or voluntary expatriation.
Leftists: No, I don't think I will
Why nobody has made the correlation that leftism = corporatism = conformity.
Corporations can make leftists dance to their tune at any time because the typical leftist has been primed by decades of a leftist education and media system that convinces them if they follow their tune, they're both on the right side of history and are unique, brave individuals.
Of course, nobody sees the irony of millions of people taking their cues from massive multinational corporations as being a statement of individuality, but that's leftist thinking in general. Conform to the non-conformity of society.