Isn't it funny, and also deeply sad, that in the UK they arrest people for that sort of thing...
Actually, I'm pretty sure they do in Victoria, now, too, in the name of "combatting 'violence' and misinformation", fucking lol...
So yeah. Maybe I should. Interesting test case, innit? "Man arrested for posting 'offensive' messages around city"...
A couple of years ago, someone posted "sad koala" stickers around the Gold Coast, to protest deforestation hypocrisy during the Commonwealth Games (which is like the shitty Olympics for former British colonies, not including the US, Ireland or Hong Kong, naturally enough...), because a "happy koala" was the mascot for the games... "Sorrowbe" - sad koala vs Borobi - mascot...
Anyway, I thought it was very clever, but they literally tried to arrest them and fine them for it, fucking lol... They never found who it was, tho!
But yeah, taking that, and your idea, as inspiration, maybe I should, hey?
Fucking clown country, this shithole is... It really fucking is, at this point. :-/
I love how quotable Mussolini is, to illustrate when someone is being a literal fascist.
"The Fascist State organizes the nation, but it leaves sufficient scope to individuals; it has limited useless or harmful liberties and has preserved those that are essential. It cannot be the individual who decides in this matter, but only the State."
I'm no expert, but the main thing that is missing to be literal fascism is a cohesive identity. These authoritarians love the state, but the state just means the government, without any contextual definitions such as culture, history, or lineage, as you'd find in fascism.
So, and I want to be clear that I'm no fan of fascism, but this modern bullshit is actually worse than fascism, since it actually further strips people of their identity and personhood. It's all the authoritarianism of fascism, without any of the community identity, (attempted) cohesion, or national purpose. It's blind authority of and obedience to the state, but without any concrete statements on what sort of society they're working toward. People are just cogs in the machine of the State, perhaps even more than they would be under the fascist regimes of old. Kind of scary to think about how far we've slipped, really.
I started off writing this to say it was very similar to fascism. I didn't expect to realize that it's actually worse in some ways. Disgusting.
I guess, and of course we're talking different ideologies here, but horseshoe theory and all that, and they're also both unquestionably ultra-authoritarian... I guess what it perhaps has (a bit) MORE in common with, then, is both Stalinism and Maoism...
Both rejected the "dominant" cultures of the places they corrupted. Both involved blind subservience to the state, violent suppression of ANY disagreement or dissent, and destruction of "old" things - temples, cathedrals, state buildings, foreign embassies, etc (particularly Mao)...
Both also involved intergenerational warfare and mass brainwashing, of course, and both demonstrated full control of the media... Interesting.
Also the body count thing... Both outstripped Hitler in sheer numbers by a significant margin, but because history is "inconvenient", and such, we tend to forget that... Especially Mao.
Committing genocide against "your own" people? Totally fine and dandy with the West, apparently, as long as we can utilise your cheap labour, and get you to make our flashy electronic goods, fast fashion and plastic junk, lol...
Again, not an expert myself, but what you say makes sense.
It seems to have more in common with communism, at least in the cultural aspects, than fascism. Communism is usual against the system and existing norms, while fascism often embraces the tradition, or at least claims to, and exalts the nation. It's not a perfect fit, as you've missing aspects of communism as well. Plus, communists are bold enough nowadays where they'll often tell you openly that they're communists.
But certainly from the cultural aspects it seems more in that direction than fascism, I suppose.
Why isn't she dead? This is stuff beyond tyranny. This is shit they killed politicians for. These people act like the aristocracy of the middle ages or slave masters. We do not tolerate this.
Fear. "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face - forever." - 1984
Also the St Mary's virus, in V for Vendetta. It's just that it's apparently far, far easier than we EVER imagined to scare an already compliant, already demoralised population of good little sheep-humans into tolerating literally whatever you can imagine, in your wildest totalitarian nightmares...
You just need that initial fear. :-/
Seriously, I'm not kidding when I say that people here are now 5x more afraid of "Delta" than they ever were at any point last year. Something is very wrong here, and, as a result... They are pushing this as far they possibly can, to see just how compliant our population is, and just what they can get away with...
I mean, that is literally what the Taliban is currently doing, except with literal children...
I just... Didn't expect Australia, as a rule, to say, "Hey, what a good idea, let's keep a register of who is fucking who", lololol... :-/
Seriously, though, how the fuck do they think this is going to work for millennials, with their "casual sex" shit..? Like, it just... Fundamentally does not work, in current Western society. And who TF would WILLINGLY sign their + their partner's name up on this register?? What kind of idiot says, "Oh yeah, that seems perfectly reasonable"...
I just... What a fucking absurd idea this is. Only a country as completely fucking broken as "mine" could possibly come up with something this bonkers. :-/
1984... It's really not as exciting as I thought it would be. More just... Deeply confusing, and demoralising...
I wouldn't believe anything you read about what the Taliban are doing. The famous execution that drove public opinion against them was of a female sadistic murderer and was spread by the Afghan version of Clementine Ford.
It's going to work because every guy who is trying to spin plates is going to get cucked by the government. This kind of lockdown idea is just to make living alone as hellish as possible so you bite the bullet and marry.
No country has ever restricted the ability to get a marriage certificate due to Covid 19. Driving licenses are backlogged, passports, all kinds of documents, but not the one that makes women rich.
You're not living in 1984. You're living in the early stages of the SCUM Manifesto, where the feminist ruling class hasn't yet decided keeping you alive is not worth it.
Again, I wouldn't go so far as to advocate for violence, of course, but if something... Unpleasant happened to the NSW police minister (his name is David Elliott, if you feel like seeing what the fat fucks who are ruining our lives look like), say, hypothetically... I wouldn't shed a single fucking crocodile tear, to say the least...
Or the police commissioner. Or Gladys. Or Dan. Or Kerry Chant. Or Sutton. Or McGowan. Or Albo. Or Scotty. Or Janet Young. Or any of these other little "health" fascists... Or indeed their cheerleaders in the media, and in big tech.
This is a war on the people, now, and it's high time that the rest of society fucking realised that.
When they move to take away people’s food, that’s probably when they will realise they overreached. I have read a lot of history and it seems Australia is entering a time of troubles at a crazy speed. I thought the US or Canada would be first, I am so confused.
I thought the US or Canada would be first, I am so confused.
That's never been my impression. Discounting countries that are already unstable, like South Africa, the countries most at risk seem to be Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK. The US is in a ton of danger, but we're not first on the chopping block. I'm not at all surprise to see Australia falling first. I imagine New Zealand is next, then the UK or Canada. Then the US. That's my guess, at least.
South America and much of (mostly Western) Europe would like a word, lol...
Also Russia. Also quite a bit of Asia. This seems to be... Fairly widespread. But then again, like you say, stability plays a role, of course, lol...
I wouldn't argue Samoa, Chile, Peru or fucking Indonesia as examples of "stable", or hell, even functioning, societies, at this point...
Then again, Australia being so "stable" is partly how we got to this point: via complacency and hubris of course...
"She'll be right, mate" - I've always hated that saying...
When applied to anti-safetyism - great. When applied to tolerance for authoritarian overreach, and ridiculous police state bullshit, or indeed the state of our politics and/or the media..? Not so much... :-/
Also, I think there's more to this than just stability, or the Anglosphere...
Just look at the Middle East: it's one of the few places that can rival Australia's oppression levels, and they're, well, they're primed for it... So culture obviously plays a role (they're also notably not-at-all feminist, so... Sorry TheImpossible1, but in this case... That doesn't seem to be the cause).
Even Israel, though... Like, you would think they would know/expect better, at this point, but umm, nope. They're literally one of the worst in the world, in that regard. Fucking lol. So I dunno, I can't explain it. When Sweden is almost the freest, and Israel tied with Australia and the Gulf as the most oppressive... It's hard to pin this down to a single logical cause, unfortunately...
I think you misinterpreted what I said; I said discounting places that are unstable. As in, they're already in trouble, and I wasn't counting them. I think Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK, and maybe the USA fall to tyranny (or the resulting chaos from attempted tyranny) before Russia/Asia/etc..
My examples seem more totalitarian left leaning already, and thus more susceptible to this particular brand of authoritarianism. They're already primed to accept government rule, by and large.
Fair, but no, I get ya. I just... Feel like Qatar, for example, is fairly stable, arguably up there with Western nations, yet it is already right up there for ridiculous "corona overreach"...
Also Chile, which is theoretically the richest, most "stable" (post-Pinochet) country in South America, but quickly descended into near martial law, when this kicked off (yes, I know about the anti-government protests, even prior to coof)...
And finally Japan, which is definitely seen as "stable", but is behaving just as horribly towards its citizens as we are (well, in my state, anyway. NSW and Victoria are arguably worse. Arguably)...
So... I dunno, hey. It just doesn't seem to hold. Like, this weird authoritarianism is similarly everywhere, but also... Not?
I never thought Sweden, of all goddamn places, would be the most reasonable about all this. Like, I talk to Swedes who are living there, and they just... Can't even understand how the rest of the "West" is behaving like this... And I never thought I would say that about fucking Sweden. Or Iceland, for that matter. It's weeeeiiiirrrdd, man.
This was a punch in the gut. Been a while since reading news evoked such emotions in me, but I actually felt a little sick when I first read about what's going on in NSW. It was just shocking, so detached from reality...even though I knew it was coming. Even though I'm not in Australia. This is complete unacceptable.
Absolutely revolting...huh, an interesting word, that...revolting.
And remember, whatever part of the world you live in...they're bringing it to you, too. Coming soon to a country near you. Stay alert, stay safe.
Yeah, I guess I was... "Enculturated" to this from watching Victoria, WA and the NT last year (we've established by now that I'm not in any of those states or territories, I think...), but I guess what scares, horrifies and revolts me (as you say) is that NSW WAS, for all intents and purposes, one of the last hold-outs against these most oppressive of measures, for a while...
Or at least, it was perceived that way, accurately or otherwise...
Gladys held off on declaring martial law, like some of the other states did, because she presumably knew that would be the end of her political career (if the proles ever do rise up, that is), and she wanted to differentiate herself from a) Scotty, and b) Labor, I gather...
However it only took a year, and the spook of fucking "Delta", for her to enact the very same police state that she wass mocking Dan for, only a few months ago...
Like on this exact policy (which the post is about), Gladys was literally mocking Dan's government a few months ago FOR THE EXACT SAME THING, and saying how "that would never happen in NSW"... If you search for it, it's one of the first articles to come up, and demonstrates the eminent hypocrisy of all this...
You thought this wasn't coming for you, Sydneysiders? Well I hate to break it to you, but how goddamn naïve could you be, lol...
Scuntmo DOES live in, and represent, Sydney, after all... They were always going to be made an example of. :-/
"Everything in the State, nothing outside the State, nothing against the State."
I'd start printing that and sticking it around everywhere you can get away with it.
Isn't it funny, and also deeply sad, that in the UK they arrest people for that sort of thing...
Actually, I'm pretty sure they do in Victoria, now, too, in the name of "combatting 'violence' and misinformation", fucking lol...
So yeah. Maybe I should. Interesting test case, innit? "Man arrested for posting 'offensive' messages around city"...
A couple of years ago, someone posted "sad koala" stickers around the Gold Coast, to protest deforestation hypocrisy during the Commonwealth Games (which is like the shitty Olympics for former British colonies, not including the US, Ireland or Hong Kong, naturally enough...), because a "happy koala" was the mascot for the games... "Sorrowbe" - sad koala vs Borobi - mascot...
Anyway, I thought it was very clever, but they literally tried to arrest them and fine them for it, fucking lol... They never found who it was, tho!
But yeah, taking that, and your idea, as inspiration, maybe I should, hey?
Fucking clown country, this shithole is... It really fucking is, at this point. :-/
NPCs would just nod.
The state would probably leave it up, too.
I love how quotable Mussolini is, to illustrate when someone is being a literal fascist.
"The Fascist State organizes the nation, but it leaves sufficient scope to individuals; it has limited useless or harmful liberties and has preserved those that are essential. It cannot be the individual who decides in this matter, but only the State."
Hmm, so when I say this is "fascist"... I'm not that far off the intended literal meaning then?
Good to know!
I'm no expert, but the main thing that is missing to be literal fascism is a cohesive identity. These authoritarians love the state, but the state just means the government, without any contextual definitions such as culture, history, or lineage, as you'd find in fascism.
So, and I want to be clear that I'm no fan of fascism, but this modern bullshit is actually worse than fascism, since it actually further strips people of their identity and personhood. It's all the authoritarianism of fascism, without any of the community identity, (attempted) cohesion, or national purpose. It's blind authority of and obedience to the state, but without any concrete statements on what sort of society they're working toward. People are just cogs in the machine of the State, perhaps even more than they would be under the fascist regimes of old. Kind of scary to think about how far we've slipped, really.
I started off writing this to say it was very similar to fascism. I didn't expect to realize that it's actually worse in some ways. Disgusting.
Hmm, interesting...
I guess, and of course we're talking different ideologies here, but horseshoe theory and all that, and they're also both unquestionably ultra-authoritarian... I guess what it perhaps has (a bit) MORE in common with, then, is both Stalinism and Maoism...
Both rejected the "dominant" cultures of the places they corrupted. Both involved blind subservience to the state, violent suppression of ANY disagreement or dissent, and destruction of "old" things - temples, cathedrals, state buildings, foreign embassies, etc (particularly Mao)...
Both also involved intergenerational warfare and mass brainwashing, of course, and both demonstrated full control of the media... Interesting.
Also the body count thing... Both outstripped Hitler in sheer numbers by a significant margin, but because history is "inconvenient", and such, we tend to forget that... Especially Mao.
Committing genocide against "your own" people? Totally fine and dandy with the West, apparently, as long as we can utilise your cheap labour, and get you to make our flashy electronic goods, fast fashion and plastic junk, lol...
Fuck, this is a blackpill and a half, hey..? :-(
Again, not an expert myself, but what you say makes sense.
It seems to have more in common with communism, at least in the cultural aspects, than fascism. Communism is usual against the system and existing norms, while fascism often embraces the tradition, or at least claims to, and exalts the nation. It's not a perfect fit, as you've missing aspects of communism as well. Plus, communists are bold enough nowadays where they'll often tell you openly that they're communists.
But certainly from the cultural aspects it seems more in that direction than fascism, I suppose.
No kidding.
Why isn't she dead? This is stuff beyond tyranny. This is shit they killed politicians for. These people act like the aristocracy of the middle ages or slave masters. We do not tolerate this.
Fear. "If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stomping on a human face - forever." - 1984
Also the St Mary's virus, in V for Vendetta. It's just that it's apparently far, far easier than we EVER imagined to scare an already compliant, already demoralised population of good little sheep-humans into tolerating literally whatever you can imagine, in your wildest totalitarian nightmares...
You just need that initial fear. :-/
Seriously, I'm not kidding when I say that people here are now 5x more afraid of "Delta" than they ever were at any point last year. Something is very wrong here, and, as a result... They are pushing this as far they possibly can, to see just how compliant our population is, and just what they can get away with...
Because she is part of the unelected female ruling class that everyone pretends doesn't exist.
I remember when this was an MGTOW conspiracy theory, that the government would control dating and effectively force marriage.
The Feminist Flu is the gift that keeps on giving for those who funded and created it.
I mean, that is literally what the Taliban is currently doing, except with literal children...
I just... Didn't expect Australia, as a rule, to say, "Hey, what a good idea, let's keep a register of who is fucking who", lololol... :-/
Seriously, though, how the fuck do they think this is going to work for millennials, with their "casual sex" shit..? Like, it just... Fundamentally does not work, in current Western society. And who TF would WILLINGLY sign their + their partner's name up on this register?? What kind of idiot says, "Oh yeah, that seems perfectly reasonable"...
I just... What a fucking absurd idea this is. Only a country as completely fucking broken as "mine" could possibly come up with something this bonkers. :-/
1984... It's really not as exciting as I thought it would be. More just... Deeply confusing, and demoralising...
You say that but hey, people are checking in to places with QR codes out of "health" interests....so I wouldn't be surprised if someone complied.
Scary fucking times, right?
I know plenty of people who have said "the law doesn't make sense but it's the law." and continue to comply. Useful idiots are useful.
I wouldn't believe anything you read about what the Taliban are doing. The famous execution that drove public opinion against them was of a female sadistic murderer and was spread by the Afghan version of Clementine Ford.
It's going to work because every guy who is trying to spin plates is going to get cucked by the government. This kind of lockdown idea is just to make living alone as hellish as possible so you bite the bullet and marry.
No country has ever restricted the ability to get a marriage certificate due to Covid 19. Driving licenses are backlogged, passports, all kinds of documents, but not the one that makes women rich.
You're not living in 1984. You're living in the early stages of the SCUM Manifesto, where the feminist ruling class hasn't yet decided keeping you alive is not worth it.
Australia is a total loss. This is what happens when you give up your guns.
Eh, we'll see. Guns certainly help, but it's the spirit of resistance that really matters. Basically, Australia is lost of people let it happen.
But I'm not ready to write it off completely.
Any single person not dating will be classified as an incel and subjected to sanctions regardless of the actual facts of the situation.
Fuck Gladys! The corrupt bitch needs to be removed and marched through the streets to the gallows.
I see some people saying that "come election day they're all gone..."
It's so cute they still think they have a say...2020 US elections said otherwise....welcome to the demoralizing future.
Again, I wouldn't go so far as to advocate for violence, of course, but if something... Unpleasant happened to the NSW police minister (his name is David Elliott, if you feel like seeing what the fat fucks who are ruining our lives look like), say, hypothetically... I wouldn't shed a single fucking crocodile tear, to say the least...
Or the police commissioner. Or Gladys. Or Dan. Or Kerry Chant. Or Sutton. Or McGowan. Or Albo. Or Scotty. Or Janet Young. Or any of these other little "health" fascists... Or indeed their cheerleaders in the media, and in big tech.
This is a war on the people, now, and it's high time that the rest of society fucking realised that.
When they move to take away people’s food, that’s probably when they will realise they overreached. I have read a lot of history and it seems Australia is entering a time of troubles at a crazy speed. I thought the US or Canada would be first, I am so confused.
That's never been my impression. Discounting countries that are already unstable, like South Africa, the countries most at risk seem to be Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK. The US is in a ton of danger, but we're not first on the chopping block. I'm not at all surprise to see Australia falling first. I imagine New Zealand is next, then the UK or Canada. Then the US. That's my guess, at least.
South America and much of (mostly Western) Europe would like a word, lol...
Also Russia. Also quite a bit of Asia. This seems to be... Fairly widespread. But then again, like you say, stability plays a role, of course, lol...
I wouldn't argue Samoa, Chile, Peru or fucking Indonesia as examples of "stable", or hell, even functioning, societies, at this point...
Then again, Australia being so "stable" is partly how we got to this point: via complacency and hubris of course...
"She'll be right, mate" - I've always hated that saying...
When applied to anti-safetyism - great. When applied to tolerance for authoritarian overreach, and ridiculous police state bullshit, or indeed the state of our politics and/or the media..? Not so much... :-/
Also, I think there's more to this than just stability, or the Anglosphere...
Just look at the Middle East: it's one of the few places that can rival Australia's oppression levels, and they're, well, they're primed for it... So culture obviously plays a role (they're also notably not-at-all feminist, so... Sorry TheImpossible1, but in this case... That doesn't seem to be the cause).
Even Israel, though... Like, you would think they would know/expect better, at this point, but umm, nope. They're literally one of the worst in the world, in that regard. Fucking lol. So I dunno, I can't explain it. When Sweden is almost the freest, and Israel tied with Australia and the Gulf as the most oppressive... It's hard to pin this down to a single logical cause, unfortunately...
I think you misinterpreted what I said; I said discounting places that are unstable. As in, they're already in trouble, and I wasn't counting them. I think Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the UK, and maybe the USA fall to tyranny (or the resulting chaos from attempted tyranny) before Russia/Asia/etc..
My examples seem more totalitarian left leaning already, and thus more susceptible to this particular brand of authoritarianism. They're already primed to accept government rule, by and large.
Fair, but no, I get ya. I just... Feel like Qatar, for example, is fairly stable, arguably up there with Western nations, yet it is already right up there for ridiculous "corona overreach"...
Also Chile, which is theoretically the richest, most "stable" (post-Pinochet) country in South America, but quickly descended into near martial law, when this kicked off (yes, I know about the anti-government protests, even prior to coof)...
And finally Japan, which is definitely seen as "stable", but is behaving just as horribly towards its citizens as we are (well, in my state, anyway. NSW and Victoria are arguably worse. Arguably)...
So... I dunno, hey. It just doesn't seem to hold. Like, this weird authoritarianism is similarly everywhere, but also... Not?
I never thought Sweden, of all goddamn places, would be the most reasonable about all this. Like, I talk to Swedes who are living there, and they just... Can't even understand how the rest of the "West" is behaving like this... And I never thought I would say that about fucking Sweden. Or Iceland, for that matter. It's weeeeiiiirrrdd, man.
Act like cattle, vote like cattle, get treated like cattle. Maybe you shouldn’t have given women rights? Just a suggestion for a line of thinking.
This was a punch in the gut. Been a while since reading news evoked such emotions in me, but I actually felt a little sick when I first read about what's going on in NSW. It was just shocking, so detached from reality...even though I knew it was coming. Even though I'm not in Australia. This is complete unacceptable.
Absolutely revolting...huh, an interesting word, that...revolting.
And remember, whatever part of the world you live in...they're bringing it to you, too. Coming soon to a country near you. Stay alert, stay safe.
Ugh.
Yeah, I guess I was... "Enculturated" to this from watching Victoria, WA and the NT last year (we've established by now that I'm not in any of those states or territories, I think...), but I guess what scares, horrifies and revolts me (as you say) is that NSW WAS, for all intents and purposes, one of the last hold-outs against these most oppressive of measures, for a while...
Or at least, it was perceived that way, accurately or otherwise...
Gladys held off on declaring martial law, like some of the other states did, because she presumably knew that would be the end of her political career (if the proles ever do rise up, that is), and she wanted to differentiate herself from a) Scotty, and b) Labor, I gather...
However it only took a year, and the spook of fucking "Delta", for her to enact the very same police state that she wass mocking Dan for, only a few months ago...
Like on this exact policy (which the post is about), Gladys was literally mocking Dan's government a few months ago FOR THE EXACT SAME THING, and saying how "that would never happen in NSW"... If you search for it, it's one of the first articles to come up, and demonstrates the eminent hypocrisy of all this...
You thought this wasn't coming for you, Sydneysiders? Well I hate to break it to you, but how goddamn naïve could you be, lol...
Scuntmo DOES live in, and represent, Sydney, after all... They were always going to be made an example of. :-/
How fucking peak clown world can you get, when not declaring martial law is a glowing achievement?
Australia should have never given up their guns.