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I absolutely detest the ABC (Australia, in this case), but I picked this particular article mainly for the caption under the header photo: "Federal Tourism Minister Dan Tehan says he would like to see a vaccine passport system in Australia for domestic travel" Aus is finished. (archive.is)
posted 4 years ago by bamboozler1 4 years ago by bamboozler1 +58 / -0
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– bamboozler1 [S] 24 points 4 years ago +24 / -0

I want to clarify exactly what this means...

I am currently residing in one state, where I am originally from. I study in another state. This would mean that, to travel back to my Uni, I would need a "vaccine passport". That is how insane this is...

But it's worse than that. It means they can "justify" checks on state borders, even when the "pandemic" is over. It means that state police, or perhaps the Army, now, can knock on your door, and demand to see your "vaccine papers"...

That's truly terrifying, and this is being pushed by both the theoretically conservative government, and their theoretically "centre left" opposition.

And this is also in a country where we cannot leave, so if you don't like it... I guess you just die? Seriously, can't leave, can't travel interstate, can't work... We either need a revolution, or a hell of a lot of people... Might run out of things to live for, after a while. :-(

Not the good little sheeple, though. They'll happily cheer this on, because their media overlords tell them to...

Fuck me dead.

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– danielmann861 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

It's gonna be a subscription model...I mean fuck, they turned everything else into subscription models. Your music is a subscription model. Movies are a subscription model. Software is a subscription model. Now public health will become a subscription model...get your latest jab folks...oh wait you're running on outdated jab? Get to the back of the line, peasant. No crossing borders for you.

Hell, at this point I'm pretty sure they could say we're gonna build walls around every state and the public would just happily accept it because the media would tell them it's A-okay...never mind the obvious hypocrisy of a media demonizing a certain orange man for wanting to build a wall ;) But that's just a theory of mine...I wouldn't be surprised if it came to that at this point.

I think it's very obvious this is the way we're going. Old way of life is dead and not coming back...welcome to the new norm and watch the sheep lap it up selling off their freedoms in the process.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

It's not even "for the sake of health and community", though...

It's because the media tells them to, and social media tells them to, and a) they are scared shitless, b) they want to signal their virtue, and shit on others who don't, c) it gives people who should not have it (health bureaucrats, for one) enormous, unchecked and unwarranted power, and d) normies in jobs where they can lazily work from home, and still get paid, while sitting on their arse and having shit delivered by people who actually have real jobs, love it, and never want it to go back to normal...

That's the problem. Also a complete lack of empathy, which is perhaps the most terrifying thing. Empathy seems to be dead, in Australian society now (except selective empathy). I saw that in the Aussie subreddits, and on other social media, even prior to this, but it seems to have permeated all areas of society now...

If you aren't a pro-vax, pro-authoritarian, useful idiot, society here will not only ostracise you, but it will try and destroy your life, now, it seems... Never in my wildest dreams did I think "outgroup demonization" would reach these levels... Never. Not here, at least. But here we are.

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– danielmann861 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Empathy's been dying for quite some time now. Ever since 2014, I've been watching it slowly die. Have the wrong opinion? Get cancelled.

It's almost as if the idea of critical thinking died and in its place came absolute good and evil. Everyone wants to be perceived as the absolute good. Have an opinion that is any way thoughtful and watch it be vilified or dismissed as "Alt Right" or "Nazi" or even "Control Left" (because it happens on both sides of the spectrum).

It's funny you say that about people lazily wanting to sit at home and accept it. I used to joke that Mike Judges Idiocracy was less a comedy and more a documentary, but never really fully believed it as I didn't really believe humanity could be that frightfully stupid. But looking at it now in 2021? It's full on documentary and almost scarily accurate to where our world is headed. The ignorant masses will sit at home binging their bullshit Netflix TV shows, getting paid to do the bare minimum while the world around them will crumble and before they know it, their freedoms will be gone and in that place will be complete and utter dependence on a broken economy. All because humanity just stopped caring and became complacent in its own feeble will to "exist" according to its fee fees and on the bare minimum. And it will be because of the manufactured fear mongering of catching a virus that they have more chance of surviving from than anything else.

Hell, even in Idiocracy, law had become rather retarded and simply boiled down to public opinion of "they're guilty" without so much as a critical thought...sound familiar? Public opinion reigns supreme and if you say the wrong thing on social media then watch the mob take you down. I'm utterly convinced Mike Judge has a time ma-sheen and he made Idiocracy as a god damn warning to us all.

Ignorance will reign supreme. Sadly. Pathetically.

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– ThatYellowBastard 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang, but a whimper.

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– SomeHands10 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Also a complete lack of empathy, which is perhaps the most terrifying thing. Empathy seems to be dead, in Australian society now (except selective empathy)

You should read the book "Against Empathy: The Case for Rational Compassion". It points out that empathy is a terrible system to base morality on since it is pretty much selective by default. If you look carefully amongst those promoting "empathy" it is always towards certain groups, not others, and, in my view, has become a massive political weapon to drive society in a certain ways. What we need instead is "rational compassion", where we have compassion for all people, and apply this as a rational form of morality.

Another way of thinking about this is we need to step away from a "feeling-based" form of morality, which we have now, and go back to a "thinking-based" form of morality, which was the mainstay of the past (this is the form of morality that religions such as Christianity and Buddhism are based on). I also suspect that the reason "feeling-based" morality now dominates is the feminisation of society - where feelings are considered more important than actually thinking.

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– Assassin47 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You should read the book "Against Empathy: The Case for Rational Compassion". It points out that empathy is a terrible system to base morality on since it is pretty much selective by default.

I need to add that to my list, thanks. One of my personal theories has been that the expansion of empathy has led to its diminishment. As Dawkins wrote, with instant communication and globalization our circle of empathy has gotten larger and larger. But humans aren't actually capable of being empathetic towards everyone. When we see too much news about crime, injustice, and suffering, we shut down and become numb to it. In fact what we do instead is lip service to empathy. Either "I feel your pain. Oh yes, we must understand the plight of the refugees. Yes it's terrible how the LGBTQs are treated. Ugh, why is everyone so anti-Muslim?", or we do the opposite and put the target in an "out-group" so we won't have to feel empathy for them. "Haha, that dumbass should have known better not to do (whatever) if he didn't want to be a victim. That fucker was a hateful bigot and deserves what he got."

We don't actually feel the emotion of all other humans, because that's not possible nor is it the evolutionary purpose of empathy, which is to facilitate our position as social animals within well-defined tribal groups. It's also a very basic neurological function that other mammals have too. (If a cat sees you petting another cat, the first one may start purring.)

In other words people are becoming sociopaths who act like they're empathetic - but only towards specific blessed targets of oppression that may change as the regime changes.

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– ghostfox1_ 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I can absolutely tell you how it ends.

Unfortunately, Australia doesn't have that ability after they all rolled over and gave up their guns.

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– Gizortnik 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Nobody can tell you how this all ends and goes back to life in 2019.

Oh no, there's an answer.

It ends when you make it end. How much is that gonna cost? A lot. Can it be done? Yes.

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– danielmann861 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Again, they think they're going back to normality after being vacced...they'll accept this as the new norm because the media will them to accept it...and anyone who protests? They'll be vilified to hell....I'm seeing it already on social media. I've lost two "friends" over voicing my actual opinion on Facebook. Both chided me out as a conspiracy theorist. At this point, the fucking conspiracy is playing out right in front of them and they can't see it. They just accept it.

This shit is not going away, this shit is coming to every damn country whether we like it or not. America, your turn is coming as well.

But no, those freedom protestors were all just idiot conspiracy theorists...bunch of selfish boofheads.

I am trying to cling on to hope, but every waking day I lose just a little bit more. Humanity deserves everything it's gonna get if they're too stupid to see what's going on right in front of their faces. And we're gonna suffer because of it.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Follow up: apparently we're all fascists now, lol...

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/italy-the-far-right-and-the-muted-opposition-to-vaccine-passes

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– Gizortnik 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Of course. Opposition to Fascism is the most Fascist thing someone can do.

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– Assassin47 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

One of the Lenin's "campaign" platforms was the abolition of domestic passports.

By the end of the 19th century, all Russian people had residence permits recorded at local police precincts. They were not allowed to leave their place of residence for more than six months at a time. The Bolsheviks used this in their anti-Tsarist propaganda. In 1903, Lenin wrote: “The Social Democrats demand complete freedom of movement and trade for the people – to destroy the passports… The Russian muzhik is still so enslaved by officials that he cannot freely move to the city, nor can he freely go to new lands. Isn't this serfdom? Isn't this an oppression of the people?”

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– Eight 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

This is actually quite interesting.

In South Africa, the domestic passport or "dompas" was an integral part of the Apartheid system.

It would be ironic seeing the communist-inspired ANC party implement different versions of the same passports they fought so hard to eradicate.

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– Gizortnik 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Well of course.

If they didn't do that, he would have unrestricted movement.

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– bamboozler1 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Ok... So I agree with Lenin on that much, then...

I mean, look, Lenin did terrible shit, and spawned terrible shit, but the Empire at the time was no better (as that makes very apparent), so... Eh.

Lenin wins on that one, at least, in my book. Not literally every single thing he proposed/did was bad, after all, lol.

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– ArtemisFoul 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Note that while Lenin might have said that in 1903, that was a decade and a half before the October Revolution, and Russia and the USSR actually did have internal passports. According to the pedophiles at Wikipedia it was only abolished in 1997. It's easy to criticize a regime you're trying to overthrow and replace with something a thousand times worse.

The USSR also had multiple "secret cities", usually tied to strategic interests like nuclear research, submarine bases, etc., with extremely strict border controls. https://passportsymphony.com/closed-russian-cities/

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– Assassin47 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

In fact the ultimate outcome of the liberal democrat establishment oppression may be global communist revolution, and we know what that leads to.

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– GeneralBoobs 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Want to hear something just as retarded I want to see him pleasured by lizards. See I told you just as retarded.

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