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Microsoft is forcing people to use TPM's on Windows 11, presumably for DRM (secret.club)
posted 4 years ago by AbleistSL 4 years ago by AbleistSL +54 / -0
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– MargarineMongoose 29 points 4 years ago +29 / -0

The new battlefield is digital. This sets up the ability to identify and incapacitate anyone who dares stand against the cathedral in the future. We may be in deep shit if this comes to pass.

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– AtrociKitty 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

This sets up the ability to identify and incapacitate anyone

It's always important to safeguard your identity and personal information on any device you use. However, claiming TPM serves to "identify and incapacitate" your device is wildly inaccurate. As I explained in my other comment, TPM exists for cryptography. It has nothing to do with what you're claiming.

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– Knowbody 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

So, you see that it stores keys for cryptography, but you don't see how said keys can be used to identify you.

You also don't seem to understand the implications of having this kind of cryptographic system that you're not in control of.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

I am once again validated my habit of hoarding old computers.

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– DefundTheFBI 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I'm still running Windows 8.1 and Linux. Work perfectly on modern hardware. No need for a Spy-OS on my silicone!

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– Knowbody 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Intel's IME and AMD's PSP run spy OS's in parallel with your main OS.

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– cheeto_dust 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

You can see the wood for the trees here. When a company tells you that you need something, and it’s “for your own good,” and hey, they’re just on a humanitarian aid mission to save you from yourself, one should be highly skeptical. Microsoft is pushing this hard; we can even see them citing entirely dubious statistics.

Hey that sounds familiar regarding something entirely different.

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– my-oh-mai 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

So this is like a DRM feature that gives Microsoft control over their computer? This does not bode well for privacy. Microsoft is just trying to turn someone's personal computer into "our computer".

I kind of want Microsoft to succeed to see if it would piss off the normies....just kidding. Most people will just roll with it.

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– deleted 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0
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– Auntie_Mildred 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Doesn't bode well for what? I'm not familiar with that word, I'm only an American...

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– Knowbody 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

For freedom.

With shit like this, "your computer" is not even really your computer.

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– when_we_win_remember 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Nothing inherent to TPM gives MS more control over your computer than they already have. Honestly, it's more for storing your own encryption keys securely.

One thing I can see them do is using TPM to lock your Windows license to your motherboard. They already lock those, but I think they use things like the Ethernet controller's MAC address and other pseudo-unique identifiers to fingerprint the motherboard. I haven't dealt with TPM in a while, but it probably gives them a way to get a more reliable unique fingerprint that's harder to falsify. That would be a good reason to require it from Microsoft's perspective in order to ensure their revenue.

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– deleted 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0
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– deleted 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0
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– silentnoobxd 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I wish Linux wasn't a disaster too...

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– deleted 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0
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– yamez 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

It's not. Linux Foundation itself has been totally infiltrated, but that doesn't matter too much since there are plenty of distro's dedicated purely to the code. Use Arch, it's politics free.

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– fukthewef 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Ya ok when the guy who writes the kernel code is part of the WEF it’s hard to get past that. Every distro needs the kernel.

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– yamez 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The kernel is sex agnostic, but the quality of the kernel will likely begin to degrade. I believe that we are going to see a kernel split in the next 5 years with a new group taking the old kernel and continuing development without the rest of the foundation.

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– silentnoobxd 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Look up "Linux code of conduct". Linux got SJWed even before widows did.

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– SR388-SAX 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Most of the major players in Linux have been compromised if not 100% SocJus converged for years.

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– BillCarson 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

You could try it out easy enough with vmware, as a virtual machine. I always found linux to be really slow, and I can never get the fucking video card setup properly. Its horrible for gaming if you are into that.

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– deleted 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0
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– monkebrau 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It is. There's a huge amount of limp wristed faggots. There's also a huge amount of really smart and talented people but they're either autistic / a subject idiot in some way with no organizational or interpersonal skills. So they can't properly coordinate and cooperate.

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– AtrociKitty 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

That's not true at all. You're sensationalizing a technology already used by Windows 10.

First, TPM is primarily an issue for compatibility, since some fairly recent generations don't support it natively. However, the last few gens of both Intel and AMD CPUs have firmware-based TPM. For computers with those processors, all you need to do is enable TPM in BIOS, if not already enabled. Older desktops have the option of adding a module to your motherboard.

Second, TPM isn't being required in Windows 11 for DRM. It's for encryption. Windows 10 also has the capability to use TPM for encryption. In short, TPM allows you to create cryptographic keys that can only be decrypted by the TPM. You can take this a step further and prevent keys from being migrated outside the TPM, meaning they're never exposed. Microsoft aims to sell their encryption as a solution to modern privacy and malware concerns.

Lastly, TPM isn't completely mandatory for Windows 11. It's going to be disabled for certain foreign markets, because again, it's for encryption. Installation media with TPM disabled is supposed to be strictly for OEM use, but it's very likely this will either be leaked eventually, or the flag for disabling it during setup will be discovered. Either way, this offers you an "out" if you really want to avoid TPM.

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– realerfunction 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

it's optional until it isn't.

this is the foot in the door. it needs to be shot off.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

There will be a market for people taking the TPM reference implementation and either making it work on a Pi or selling some sort of USB TPM dongle.

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