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posted 5 years ago by TheImpossible1 5 years ago by TheImpossible1 +34 / -0
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– Arkana 20 points 5 years ago +20 / -0

The reason why companies keep lurching to the left cannot be solely some grand elite agenda, because there's no way somebody invited Devolver Digital or some of the other low-tier names that went hard left to the supposed Great Reset meetings.

They don't need to have been invited. They just need to have employees who were educated based on institutional indoctrination from things like Universities. There are very many cases of healthy young adults who go into college or some social circles and become entirely corrupted.

We learned this years ago, it's just that many people assumed they would "Grow out of it once they get a job and have to interact with the real world" instead the opposite is true. They are insulated and the rest of the world needs to bend to conform to them. Otherwise they get slandered and attacked on all angles.

Boycotts don't work because the whole financial system is poisoned from the top down. No amount of people rallying together can compete with their money against the people printing the money and doing the banking.

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– coverband 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I have no faith that the majority of consumers would adhere to any sort of boycott for any length of time.

I agree with you. Entertainment should be the easiest area to boycott because it's optional, not necessary. Plus there is so much choice.

Knew a gentleman that was a hardcore IT worker rights person. But then Disney outsourced their IT and forced their native workers to train the foreign replacements, he still went gaga over their shitty Star Wars movies.

I have in-laws that are uber Pro-Trump and America First. But they still support NFL, NBA and MLB including the Mavericks owned by Mark Cuban the CCP dick-sucker. But they are more unWoke than me, because they participated in a Trump rally, even though they still go to movie theaters.

Lord forbid you call them out on their hypocrisy!

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

EA bought the license to nearly every franchise I play fairly recently. It's pretty sad to think about. I'm trying my hardest not to succumb to my desire to see how their first F1 game turned out.

There are always ways.

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– Yoshismasher22 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Recent good examples of not doubling down include:

Monster Hunter Rise [removed gender/voice ties for ResetEra]

Phantasy Star 2 (both the new & old game) [fully pushed gender removal and virtue signaled about it]

Guilty Gear Strive [Daisuke admitted to dumping the old player base and changing character designs for Sony (made I-NO more “obedient”)].

I like talking to a good portion of you, but you people very rarely speak with your wallet/purse and you make excuses for buying woke-influenced products. Guilty Gear Strive is a #1 PC seller this week and I know a bunch of anti-wokes shilling for the game DESPITE knowing about the bent knee. Why would they appeal to you if you’re going to buy the game anyway?

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– onetruephilosoraptor 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Look at these numbers.

https://steamcharts.com/app/1384160

My guess is all of these people are buying it for the good quality rollback netcode.

As you probably know, very few Japanese fighting games have good rollback netcode.

As someone who wants a good fighting game with a large playerbase and good rollback netcode, there are very few options that satisfy these conditions. With this mind, I can see why people bought GG Strive.

Even though the netcode seems tempting, I personally don't want to reward censorship.

I hope they update DB FighterZ with rollback netcode.

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– Yoshismasher22 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

They’re buying it for lots of reasons. Some because they support the Westernization, some for the netcode, others for the music.

Here’s the thing, if you help support this entry, you’re dooming lots of future games to wokeism and casualization. It’s not worth it just for some netcode (this is coming from some who plays with 12-frame delay sometimes) You have to fight the FOMO.

you make excuses for buying woke-influenced products

I’m not trying to agitate you, but after seeing it happen time and time again, I just know that the wokies have much more buying principles than the majority of us do.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

I personally won't be buying Strive as I don't want to reward censorship.

Still I would be lying if I didn't say that the rollback netcode is a pretty tempting reason to consider getting the game.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

I agree with you on this.

I am not going to buy GG Strive.

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– AntonioOfVenice 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

We have short memories, accept apologies too easily and don't double down.

Regarding short memories, I completely agree. We need a better record of all the stunts that people and organizations have pulled, and use it to build a coherent case against them. Now it's just 3 minutes of outrage that just blows over with no lasting damage to their reputation.

Accepting apologies is a two-edged sword. If you want to deter people from going over from your own side or neutral to theirs, then you need to refuse to accept apologies - thereby saying that if you decide to pull any crap, you're in the dumps forever. But if you're trying to gain people from the other side, then accepting apologies can be quite helpful, as it incentivizes people to come over to you.

I know you think that I favor 'forgiving' people out of some sort of misguided principle, but for me, it's really all expediency. Right now, we would need people to join us. Once we are strong enough to defeat them with the then-current constellation of forces, there will be no need for it. And frankly, people so diehard in nonsense do deserve anathematization.

they boycott effectively and easily due to a lack of targets

Insofar as they do have a lack of targets, it is because they do accept a surrender/apology. They can focus all their demented energy on one target, because they move on from the prior case that surrendered.

Look at the thread about the Five Nights at Freddie's guy, his politics wasn't openly stated, but they tracked down his beliefs and went to war.

The issue is that we don't really have a good line of attack that is as effective as their 'ism' smears.

What my recommendation would be for you is what I actually do myself. When you see something that you don't like, like celebrating International Women's History Century or something, find something that other people will care about. Then use that in your attack. Whenever I see a SJW, I try to always search for 'nigga' and 'nigger', because I know they can figuratively die by that sword, and a lot of them used it in the early 2010s. That needs to be archived.

So when the time is opportune, it can be used against them.

I'm sure people disagree with me attacking even the most basic gestures towards that movement as unforgivable

The issue is that there are too many of them. I'm fine with trying to boycott them, but it's unrealistic to expect it from the average right-winger, let alone the average person. There's no way people are even going to remember that list.

As you said, they attack one target at a time. When you have made an example of one company, that will add credibility to your attacks, and make future companies fearful. The best course of action would be to pick one company that is a really bad offender, and which has a clientele that would not like that, and then bring that to light until the company surrenders.

But when you have a surrender, you also have to forgive, because otherwise there is no point in surrendering for the company. If you want people to do what you want, which is what we want at the moment, you have to leave them a path for retreat. Particularly since destroying a company like Gillette is not really feasible at the moment. (Though I have to say that I don't follow my own advice and wouldn't buy Gillette even if it apologized. I would stop attacking it.)

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– Bruvazz 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

The problem is that when we boycott something we actually need to do it and it takes time, money and commitment, while the leftists (which are almost always broke af and not customers to begin with) just point the finger and cry and the big companies do the rest.

We can't win if this stays as it is.

I know people are going to say "Why should we take a lecture from someone who buys from CCP-owned Epic Games", but attacking me doesn't make this shit less true.

I'd never say something like this, even if I hate Epic Games and China, I still respect you big time.

I'm just saying that all of our pop culture is being subverted, while games are being literally bought over, full mask-off.

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– SophiesBoyfriend 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Boycotting is the stick - but it also makes you invisible to companies.

Be sure to use the carrot - SUPPORT conservative friendly companies :

https://conservapedia.com/Conservative_companies

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– bangbus 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

You can’t control what others do, but you can control what you do. Some things can’t be boycotted, like when your electric company doles $10 million to BLM.

Live your life by a simple rule - try your hardest not to give money to people who hate you.

I haven’t bought an EA game since Madden 25. I canceled Amazon in January and haven’t used it or been to Whole Foods since then. I used Gillette razors since they sent me a free razor in the ‘90’s but switched when they went woke and stopped buying Tide, Charmin and Bounty as well when they went woke. I quit religiously watching NFL in 2016 or thereabouts.

There are some things that are unavoidable, but there are plenty you can control.

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– IfThatIsWhatYouThink 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

You're absolutely right. In fact, this is why I think we should bring back the "contacting advertisers" thing. It was effective, which is why we couldn't do it on reddit lest the admins nuked the sub. Seeing as how we're no longer on reddit, I can't think of any reason not to bring it back.

I know people are going to say "Why should we take a lecture from someone who buys from CCP-owned Epic Games", but attacking me doesn't make this shit less true.

I hadn't thought of that until you brought it up. I'd really appreciate it if you'd stop doing that, but ultimately it's up to you to decide who you shop with.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

That's nice to hear. I'll give you my input.

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