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Trump is apparently starting rallies again - opinions? (archive.is)
posted 4 years ago by TheImpossible1 4 years ago by TheImpossible1 +54 / -2
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– cccpneveragain 20 points 4 years ago +21 / -1

From a political perspective, I think if there's any chance of moving on through things like an election, then it has to be with someone other than Trump to be successful. Albeit I think that elections are not likely to ever really work again.

Otherwise, I don't see the point. Why go rally around Trump? I see nothing to gain from it and a lot that the propaganda ministry can use as ammunition.

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– Galean 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

I think it can help as a white pill, they feel like they are fighting back of sorts. At the end he can just support a candidate but we have no candidate yet.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 2 points 4 years ago +7 / -5

The only candidate outside of Trump who has a shot at winning the Rust belt of PA, WI and MI is oddly enough Tucker Carlson.

I hear a lot of people hyping up Governor Ron DeSantis of Florida but I don't think he can appeal to the White working class voters of the Rust Belt like Trump was able to.

People are frustrated with Trump over his mistakes and I share some of that same frustration too. They really need to understand the current political calculus.

Voter fraud first needs to be tackled in the swing states for any Republican candidate to even have a shot.

Then you have to look at the arising problems with the path to 270 for Republicans.

GA is likely gone for Republicans entirely because of demographic change. Woke White "educated" and Black voters in Atlanta have tipped the state in favor of Democrats. GA has become an Illinois.

Arizona might be gone as well. The state elected two Dem Senators and too much shady shit happens in Maricopa county.

Thus any Republican would need to win the Rust Belt in order to get to 270 in 2024.

The only ones who can do that even after tackling voter fraud is Donald J Trump and maybe Tucker Carlson.

People need to factor all these considerations into their 2024 pick.

Even if a Republican gets elected into the Presidency in 2024, things may improve from now but it won't save us.

Trumps past term shows us the reach of the swamp and the limitations of the Presidency.

Kamala Harris as the President during 2024-2032 would be a level of never before seen globalist/woke acceleration.

I hope we can work to avoid that hell.

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– Galean 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I doubt Tucker will be running for president and DeSantis looks ok as a candidate. Tucker can support a candidate and that would be enough from my point of view. Only problem I have with DeSantis is that I have no clue how he is on stances like immigration, CRT, trans stuff, gun rights etc.

And Trump was under a lot of pressure from all sides, he was not perfect but he manage to do things despite the media and corporation spouting lies against him. I do not know anyone else who can handle that and still be sane.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

At a glance DeSantis seems okay.

He is solid on stopping CRT. He is solid on gun rights. He is right wing on economics but not really at all populist on trade. There is not much out there on his immigration stance or his stance on the trans stuff.

Besides Desantis's lack of charisma, my biggest issue with him is that the wrong people are okay with him being the nominee. The Bush Neocon warmonger portion of the GOP like John Bolton and Bill Kristol often praise him. Ben Shapiro and Jeb Bush constantly praise him.

This gives me a lot of pause.

The globalists might consider Ron DeSantis as a compromise candidate between MAGA and their desired neoconservatism. I do fear even if he can be elected in, DeSantis could turn out to be Bush 3.0.

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– AntonioOfVenice 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

DeSantis has negative charisma.

So has Hawley, my personal favorite.

Tucker is a great guy, I am glad that you came around regarding him, but I am not sure how he would fare as a politician.

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– onetruephilosoraptor 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I still think Tucker Carlson is controlled opposition on certain issues. Tucker was silent on voter fraud and soft on Hunter Biden.

I will say Tucker is still better than Kamala Harris and his personality would be an asset to win the Rust Belt.

I would vote for anyone with decent right wing populist policies who also has a real shot to win and prevent Harris 2024.

Hawley has good populist policies but he is a hard no for me in terms of being the 2024 nominee.

If Republican voters vote for him in the primaries then it will be a guaranteed loss in the general even if you prevent voter fraud due to Hawley's lack of charisma.

If the GOP has the audacity to rig in a neocon nominee like Liz Cheney, Nikki Haley or Larry Hogan, I would not even bother to vote.

The cancerous neocons need to be removed from the party.

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– TallestSkil -6 points 4 years ago +2 / -8

they feel

They’re wrong. Why should we fill ourselves with magical fantasy delusions rather than do something that actually matters?

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– krzyzowiec 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Otherwise, I don't see the point. Why go rally around Trump? I see nothing to gain from it and a lot that the propaganda ministry can use as ammunition.

I disagree. I want them to steal it again. And again and again. That will wake up any remaining people who think America still exists as a country and is not totally captured by a nefarious cabal.

You're completely wrong about Trump imo. He is the only candidate that could make it beyond the starting line. Any other person would cower in the face of what he went through.

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– cccpneveragain 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

With respect to Trump I wasn't really saying I don't like him and I agree with you at this point he's the only one that could make it very far. What I was getting at is I just don't think him making another push will fix anything, essentially that if we are to move on we need a different populist that we don't have right now.

Maybe you have a point with getting them to have to more openly and obviously steal it again. At the very least perhaps it could agitate some more people.

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– krzyzowiec 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I think we are beyond the point of this being fixed through the political process. People bashed Trump for not doing enough to root out the globalists, but the entire structure is infested.

“He should have appointed better people!” He was not allowed to. The choices he made had to be confirmed by the Senate. They stalled that out as long as possible, if they even let anyone be appointed.

The people he wanted were attacked until they withdrew. So his only choice was among their picks.

The problem is that too many people have been corrupted by the money. So at every level you are fighting against people who are trying to protect their spoils. They are entrenched. There is no removing them.

You could replace a few at the state level, but the system is so far gone that I don’t believe reform is possible right now.

More importantly, the average person is so immoral, lost, and confused, that they could not resist even if they wanted to. I think the real solution begins with people rejecting modern society (materialistic and vain) and returning to a simpler life.

Protest and deny money to companies which hate you. Live more frugally and enjoy the simple things. Find God once again and have meaning in your life. Dump useless communist family members and friends.

Only after we recognize the difference between Good and Evil can we begin the work of cleaning up politics. We have trannies running around reading stories to children right now. Until we get some of the basics clear, political reform is a pipe dream. You think if people can’t handle men and women having different bathrooms, that they can deal with corruption? It’s laughable.

Our society is corrupt and evil, and getting worse by the day. We need to wake people up to that fact. What Trump can do is continue to expose us to the truth so that we stop believing politics is anything other than a game.

I read a story recently that Republicans were “outraged” by Biden’s reckless spending. Does anyone believe that trash anymore? Not here maybe, but there are many who will take it at face value still. The biggest obstacle to change is that people still believe in lies.

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– MonsterUltra 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

More importantly, the average person is so immoral, lost, and confused, that they could not resist even if they wanted to. I think the real solution begins with people rejecting modern society (materialistic and vain) and returning to a simpler life.

Protest and deny money to companies which hate you. Live more frugally and enjoy the simple things. Find God once again and have meaning in your life. Dump useless communist family members and friends.

Only after we recognize the difference between Good and Evil can we begin the work of cleaning up politics. We have trannies running around reading stories to children right now. Until we get some of the basics clear, political reform is a pipe dream. You think if people can’t handle men and women having different bathrooms, that they can deal with corruption? It’s laughable.

Based. This is exactly what we need to do. Reject modernity, return to monke.

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– The_Gay_Deceiver 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

The more attention he gets while people disregard Biden because everything he says is stupid, incomprehensible and painfully boring, the more awareness of the sham of it all, I would say. If enough people wake up that will undoubtedly turn the tide.

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