So all this subreddits have gone in to private to protest the pedophilia coverup?
That is impressive for Reddit, I honestly thought most on the left are very ok with pedophilia as long as it is done by leftists.
reddit will never cave to the pressure. If they actually fire Challenor, or even allow discussion about him, they'll make themselves pariahs in silicon valley and they'll be setting themselves up to be lambasted by the Twitterati and every trans activist group.
The left will never abandon the transgender movement. They'll allow it to consume them before they abandon it, although more likely they'll just succeed in institutionalizing it. Either way, no matter how much trouble things like this cause, they will never abandon it. It's too important to them.
What the trans movement represents to the left is not just another identitarian group that they can use to push authoritarianism. It's much more than that. It's as close as anyone has ever come to overriding people's biology and asserting control over individual identities.
Authoritarians have always resented evolutionary psychology because it means that there will always be some aspects of individual behaviour, and therefore of society, that they cannot fully control. The revolution can never be completely secure until they have control of that as well.
There are three types of revolution. The first and most superficial is the political revolution: the transformation of the way the individual interacts with the state. There American Revolution is an example of this, and it was successful because nothing else changed: the country was still Christian, English speaking and all of the building blocks that comprised communities and the broader society remained the same. All that changed was the way in which those communities interacted with the institutions that governed them.
The second is the social revolution, or the transformation of the way people interact with each other. Authoritarians will always attempt this in order to consolidate their control and try to suppress dissent: eliminating traditional religion and trying to replace it with Robespierre's Cult of the Supreme Being, or with worship of the State, or more recently the worship of The Science. Editing the language by forbidding certain words or introducing new ones, or by changing what words mean.
The problem with this phase of the revolution is that it's never successful in the long term, because it inevitably involves trying to force people to behave in ways that don't cohere with their natural, biological programming. It's never going to be possible to supplant the nuclear family with the State, for example, even though every totalitarian tries it, because otherwise the society you govern is built on a fundamental power structure that you don't control.
But the third type of revolution is the personal, or the transformation of the way the individual interacts with himself. This is obviously the hardest to achieve, but the trans movement represents a concerted effort to do just that.
It's impossible to overstate how important gender is to our sense of identity: it informs almost every aspect of how we think, how we behave, how we interact with other people. If they can convince an entire generation of young people to abandon gender, to deny something they know instinctively, fundamentally to be true about themselves, then what's left is a generation of alienated, hormonally-unbalanced blank slates with no core sense of their own identity and no emotional capacity to resist further conditioning.
Most of the footsoldiers championing the trans cause may not understand this on an intellectual level, but instinctively, I think they do. They realize the implications this could have for their social project, and that's why they will always prioritize it over every other one of their pet causes. In the UK schools debate between Muslim parents and the trans lobby, it was the trans lobby who won. The reason for that is that as much as the left fetishize Islam for the destabilizing effect it has on our society, the trans movement will always be more important to them, whether it ends up being successful or not.
Thanks. I have to give credit to Huxley. He didn't articulate it exactly like I did, but most of what I said about the nature of revolutions comes from Brave New World.
They would wait for the whole matter to blow over as usual, smother & gaslight the tribals with sweet nothings & falsehoods, distract them with inconsequential outrage bait and the whole affair would be memory holed in 1~2 years.
The users on the other hand would whine about reddit's staff and it's battalion of jannies but they would never move on from the site. They'd complain about it... but they're far too comfortable & addicted to the kind of validation that reddit provides with it's "safe spaces".
Just look at the retarded juxtaposition of people using reddit's award system to validate a post about protesting reddit.
I kinda agree with this but I think it's best they stay contained in Reddit. If they were to come over to .win(or anywhere else), they will complain about the stuff we talk about or how we say things.
What I am trying to say is, you can take a redditor out of reddit but you can't take the reddit out of the redditor.
Reddit is boldly defending one of their ex-politician staffers from the depredations of the evil incel manlets who want to doxx her by doing things like saying her name or linking the evil news articles showing how she's surrounded herself with Minor Attracted Persons (TM), which is a perfectly respectable alternate sexuality even if you need to chain a ten-year-old in your attic rape room to express it.
So all this subreddits have gone in to private to protest the pedophilia coverup? That is impressive for Reddit, I honestly thought most on the left are very ok with pedophilia as long as it is done by leftists.
reddit will never cave to the pressure. If they actually fire Challenor, or even allow discussion about him, they'll make themselves pariahs in silicon valley and they'll be setting themselves up to be lambasted by the Twitterati and every trans activist group.
The left will never abandon the transgender movement. They'll allow it to consume them before they abandon it, although more likely they'll just succeed in institutionalizing it. Either way, no matter how much trouble things like this cause, they will never abandon it. It's too important to them.
What the trans movement represents to the left is not just another identitarian group that they can use to push authoritarianism. It's much more than that. It's as close as anyone has ever come to overriding people's biology and asserting control over individual identities.
Authoritarians have always resented evolutionary psychology because it means that there will always be some aspects of individual behaviour, and therefore of society, that they cannot fully control. The revolution can never be completely secure until they have control of that as well.
There are three types of revolution. The first and most superficial is the political revolution: the transformation of the way the individual interacts with the state. There American Revolution is an example of this, and it was successful because nothing else changed: the country was still Christian, English speaking and all of the building blocks that comprised communities and the broader society remained the same. All that changed was the way in which those communities interacted with the institutions that governed them.
The second is the social revolution, or the transformation of the way people interact with each other. Authoritarians will always attempt this in order to consolidate their control and try to suppress dissent: eliminating traditional religion and trying to replace it with Robespierre's Cult of the Supreme Being, or with worship of the State, or more recently the worship of The Science. Editing the language by forbidding certain words or introducing new ones, or by changing what words mean.
The problem with this phase of the revolution is that it's never successful in the long term, because it inevitably involves trying to force people to behave in ways that don't cohere with their natural, biological programming. It's never going to be possible to supplant the nuclear family with the State, for example, even though every totalitarian tries it, because otherwise the society you govern is built on a fundamental power structure that you don't control.
But the third type of revolution is the personal, or the transformation of the way the individual interacts with himself. This is obviously the hardest to achieve, but the trans movement represents a concerted effort to do just that.
It's impossible to overstate how important gender is to our sense of identity: it informs almost every aspect of how we think, how we behave, how we interact with other people. If they can convince an entire generation of young people to abandon gender, to deny something they know instinctively, fundamentally to be true about themselves, then what's left is a generation of alienated, hormonally-unbalanced blank slates with no core sense of their own identity and no emotional capacity to resist further conditioning.
Most of the footsoldiers championing the trans cause may not understand this on an intellectual level, but instinctively, I think they do. They realize the implications this could have for their social project, and that's why they will always prioritize it over every other one of their pet causes. In the UK schools debate between Muslim parents and the trans lobby, it was the trans lobby who won. The reason for that is that as much as the left fetishize Islam for the destabilizing effect it has on our society, the trans movement will always be more important to them, whether it ends up being successful or not.
Thanks. I have to give credit to Huxley. He didn't articulate it exactly like I did, but most of what I said about the nature of revolutions comes from Brave New World.
I really don't see this to be the breaking point.
They would wait for the whole matter to blow over as usual, smother & gaslight the tribals with sweet nothings & falsehoods, distract them with inconsequential outrage bait and the whole affair would be memory holed in 1~2 years.
The users on the other hand would whine about reddit's staff and it's battalion of jannies but they would never move on from the site. They'd complain about it... but they're far too comfortable & addicted to the kind of validation that reddit provides with it's "safe spaces".
Just look at the retarded juxtaposition of people using reddit's award system to validate a post about protesting reddit.
Give it some time. Our society is going downhill faster and faster, sad to say.
Weebshit, furfag & coomer subs are protesting but only two default subs are locked down
Who are the degenerates again?
I kinda agree with this but I think it's best they stay contained in Reddit. If they were to come over to .win(or anywhere else), they will complain about the stuff we talk about or how we say things.
What I am trying to say is, you can take a redditor out of reddit but you can't take the reddit out of the redditor.
Wasn't r/KiA still up during the last big mod revolt? what made halfkia change their mind this time?
Can't speak for Half KiA, but last time it was about a popular employee of Reddit. This time it is about censorship targeting subs, including KiA.
Why would kotakuinaction go private it's tame as shit over there
Gotta take a break from hardcore jannying and take notes from the Admins on how to break spirits.
Reddit is boldly defending one of their ex-politician staffers from the depredations of the evil incel manlets who want to doxx her by doing things like saying her name or linking the evil news articles showing how she's surrounded herself with Minor Attracted Persons (TM), which is a perfectly respectable alternate sexuality even if you need to chain a ten-year-old in your attic rape room to express it.
Obviously, this is the real cancel culture.
(Do I need a /s? Lordy, I hope I not.)
TheRightCantMeme has recently gone private as well. Don't know if it's related or not.