Confirmed my suspicions on the high seas a while back, Ashley Burch turned up in the very first settlement and it immediately set the tone for the mind numbing idiocy of the writing to come.
Speaking of idiocy, I could never shake the feeling that pretty much every character was literally retarded, or at least dissociative and delusional. The weird disconnect between the horrible shit they all saw happening and the bizarre counterproductive actions they took and total lack of self preservation they always showed made all of them seem deranged lunatics, which I get was kind of intended but having an entire star system be nut jobs for no good reason isn't actually good fiction writing.
How did you even have hope? I member The COD boycott, and even more egregious are the people who go on and on about hating Disney and Netflix and their woke nonsense but who go on to still see Disney movies in theater, use Disney+, use Netflix, and otherwise be idiot cows hungrily eating at the trough of slop people that don't even like them dish out. It's disgusting, frankly.
Outer Worlds shows that the Obsidian you once knew is dead. The writers are untalented, SJW women. Look at the DLC that is coming out soon, it has a "murder mystery" theme. For some reason SJWs like murder mystery stories and always force in a homage to one in any of the works they do.
I remember talking about it back on the kia2 sub, a lot of people said the gameplay was fun and were either not concerned or in denial of the woke shit. I played a little bit of it and when I got to the ugly, bull dyke looking ship computer I knew I was in for a bad time. But even without all the ugly, dykey women and the commie story I don’t think it would be a very good game. You’ve got slightly better than FO4 shooting, awful, out dated futurama/Richard and Mortimer style humor, and a truly unappealing cast of companion characters with a boring, predictable story.
I remember when that stupid autistic dykey engineering chick wanted me to send love letters to some other ugly, dykey eingineering chick I just laughed and kicked her out of my crew. Just a lot of wasted potential, and proof-positive that Obsidian’s best days are behind them. They’re going the way of Bioware and CDPR, count on it.
Idk I think after the cyberpunk debacle they’re on their way. Most of the people who worked on the Witcher are gone, I’m pretty sure they’re getting more and more woke behind the scenes , they’ve squandered a lot of goodwill they had with gamers, it would take a pretty big success to turn things around.
I just don't see it personally. CP77's worst offenses were annoying web celebrity cameos. Those came nowhere close to the woke mess that is was the outer worlds. Although Cyberpunk ran fine on my pc so that probably biased my experience of the game.
I played it and even enjoyed it when it was nearly new. I think I more just subconsciously ignored all the woke, and it doesn't hurt that I went into it telling myself I was going to be a straight up asshole character. Usually I try to play nice in such a game, but this time around it was screw everyone I'm a one man show. I'm sure I blew the head off of plenty of women leaders in the process.
This was all before the WuFlu takeover, so I was just less agitated about at the state of the world back then. I even went as far to say it was a good game, I think even on this site. I went back and tried again with a more traditional play-through and lasted about 30mins.
I thought it had good base gameplay and played well, it would be fun if put into a really solid old-school woke free setting.
Luckily, I saw the game was highly reviewed by the usual suspect voices, so I suspected it wasn't one worth playing. You can't arbitrarily assume Game Journos will give good reviews to bad games, and bad reviews to good games, but you CAN reasonably assume that they will tend to give great reviews to bad games narratively, if you look at that aspect in particular.
The moment a journo says they liked the story, or the worldbuilding, or the characters, there's a 99% chance it's worthless as a game, since anything that makes sense through their twisted Clown World lens isn't going to be good to anyone sane, rational, logical, empathetic, or reasonable.
I remember being discussed once in the comment sections, I was also looking forward to it at the time.
You've described the game fairly well, it is a game with heavy feminist SJW NPCs and very anti-capitalist.
IF you could change it a bit to remove those 2 things it could be a decent game. But as it stands I just can't play it.
I found a copy on the high seas and gave up after an hour. You can't get a single conversation out without someone hammering about corporations and pushing the message into your face.
And the comedy is way more slapstick than in New Vegas.
I finished the first planet and noped the hell out. The game tries really hard to be funny like borderlands did and it fails exactly the same way for the exact same reasons.
I played it through out of boredom, my roommate bought it on release so it was free for me.
I don't even think you need to attack the woke shit because its also just a bad game entirely. You can within minutes crack the difficulty open and never run a risk, exploration is generally worthless outside completion, and the quests are never fun. It has all the flaws of the Fallout games and fails heavy on the positives.
And the major theme is so overplayed in every angle it just gets funny. Kinda like Starship Troopers were eventually I just became that raging capitalist asshole because it was more fun.
The one saving grace is you can pick up the Priest and robot companion and dodge most of the woke shit because neither of them are written that way and you can shutdown it anytime someone brings it to you. With that its just background radiation and I can be the homophobic hate monger I want by picking the obvious "wrong" options.
I initially kept the lesbian you start with, just because I had used her for long enough I didn't want to rebuild a new companion.
But she has the longest personal quest by a country mile, and its the most pathetic "fetch absurd shit for my lesbian date night, but each piece is across the galaxy" quest compared to the actually kinda emotional others, so I benched her with prejudice.
But yeah, if you take away the woke it does nothing that isn't done better in other games so its biggest crime is being generic and boring more than its ideological bullshit.
I played it and kinda just ignored the woke bs. I did enjoy the mechanics and gameplay, but even ignoring the woke bs, the writing was just...eh at best, and that's me being waaaaay to generous. I beat it mainly just to power through it, so I could be done with it. BandageBandolier and Galean are very much both dead on with the points they make. The world building could have had potential if the writing wasn't so shit. The second I beat the game, I removed it from my ps4. Don't even give a shit about the new DLC that came out.
I expected a new Vegas meets borderlands intergalactic romping good time. What I got was a clunky, broken faux-rpg fps with little real role-playing and combat gameplay from 15 years ago that honest to God made me fall asleep while playing it.
I've tried to play it a lot, but something about it makes me actually kind of sick when playing. Something.. blurry about it. I've tried all sorts of settings, but it's always there. I can't tell if it's just me, or there really is something going on. No other game has done this to me. I think it's the chromatic aberration, but turning it off did little. And yes, I have set up a higher fov.
The best way I can tell if RPG is good is I remember the story and companions, KOTOR 2 has Kreia, Handmaiden, Visas, and others. All excellent quality and interconnect with each other.
Mask of the Betrayer had Kaelyn. Who has the best voice and is woven into the main quest. She's just lovely.
NV had Cassidy, prickly but still enjoyable to have around and Veronica, yes does lean that way but it's tertiary for her concern over the Brotherhood and finding a dress.
Outworlds has Pravati, who's only reason is to shove a girlfriend and asexuality in your face. That's her whole character. Visas heals herself, Kaelyn falls in the service of rescuing other from the wall, Cassidy and Veronica both come to terms with what happened to them, caravan and brotherhood wise, and learn to let go, Pravati is just her sexuality. That's it, there's nothing redeeming about her. And I say only Pravati because that's the only companion I remember.
Just put gameplay aside and look at it from a purely story perspective. Outworlds just fails because it's the worse thing an RPG can be, it's boring. Characters, even Veronica, know not to have their sexuality as a main trait because there's only so much you can do with it storywise and it's bad writing. It's like the Andromeda "Hi I'm Trans" NPC, it's not a natural layer to the character, it's hamfisting in something by the writer.
Confirmed my suspicions on the high seas a while back, Ashley Burch turned up in the very first settlement and it immediately set the tone for the mind numbing idiocy of the writing to come.
Speaking of idiocy, I could never shake the feeling that pretty much every character was literally retarded, or at least dissociative and delusional. The weird disconnect between the horrible shit they all saw happening and the bizarre counterproductive actions they took and total lack of self preservation they always showed made all of them seem deranged lunatics, which I get was kind of intended but having an entire star system be nut jobs for no good reason isn't actually good fiction writing.
How did you even have hope? I member The COD boycott, and even more egregious are the people who go on and on about hating Disney and Netflix and their woke nonsense but who go on to still see Disney movies in theater, use Disney+, use Netflix, and otherwise be idiot cows hungrily eating at the trough of slop people that don't even like them dish out. It's disgusting, frankly.
Outer Worlds shows that the Obsidian you once knew is dead. The writers are untalented, SJW women. Look at the DLC that is coming out soon, it has a "murder mystery" theme. For some reason SJWs like murder mystery stories and always force in a homage to one in any of the works they do.
I remember talking about it back on the kia2 sub, a lot of people said the gameplay was fun and were either not concerned or in denial of the woke shit. I played a little bit of it and when I got to the ugly, bull dyke looking ship computer I knew I was in for a bad time. But even without all the ugly, dykey women and the commie story I don’t think it would be a very good game. You’ve got slightly better than FO4 shooting, awful, out dated futurama/Richard and Mortimer style humor, and a truly unappealing cast of companion characters with a boring, predictable story.
I remember when that stupid autistic dykey engineering chick wanted me to send love letters to some other ugly, dykey eingineering chick I just laughed and kicked her out of my crew. Just a lot of wasted potential, and proof-positive that Obsidian’s best days are behind them. They’re going the way of Bioware and CDPR, count on it.
Bioware is shit, but CDPR is redeemable in my view. What have they done that makes them worse than Obsidian?
Idk I think after the cyberpunk debacle they’re on their way. Most of the people who worked on the Witcher are gone, I’m pretty sure they’re getting more and more woke behind the scenes , they’ve squandered a lot of goodwill they had with gamers, it would take a pretty big success to turn things around.
I just don't see it personally. CP77's worst offenses were annoying web celebrity cameos. Those came nowhere close to the woke mess that is was the outer worlds. Although Cyberpunk ran fine on my pc so that probably biased my experience of the game.
I played it and even enjoyed it when it was nearly new. I think I more just subconsciously ignored all the woke, and it doesn't hurt that I went into it telling myself I was going to be a straight up asshole character. Usually I try to play nice in such a game, but this time around it was screw everyone I'm a one man show. I'm sure I blew the head off of plenty of women leaders in the process.
This was all before the WuFlu takeover, so I was just less agitated about at the state of the world back then. I even went as far to say it was a good game, I think even on this site. I went back and tried again with a more traditional play-through and lasted about 30mins.
I thought it had good base gameplay and played well, it would be fun if put into a really solid old-school woke free setting.
Luckily, I saw the game was highly reviewed by the usual suspect voices, so I suspected it wasn't one worth playing. You can't arbitrarily assume Game Journos will give good reviews to bad games, and bad reviews to good games, but you CAN reasonably assume that they will tend to give great reviews to bad games narratively, if you look at that aspect in particular.
The moment a journo says they liked the story, or the worldbuilding, or the characters, there's a 99% chance it's worthless as a game, since anything that makes sense through their twisted Clown World lens isn't going to be good to anyone sane, rational, logical, empathetic, or reasonable.
I remember being discussed once in the comment sections, I was also looking forward to it at the time. You've described the game fairly well, it is a game with heavy feminist SJW NPCs and very anti-capitalist.
IF you could change it a bit to remove those 2 things it could be a decent game. But as it stands I just can't play it.
I found a copy on the high seas and gave up after an hour. You can't get a single conversation out without someone hammering about corporations and pushing the message into your face.
And the comedy is way more slapstick than in New Vegas.
I finished the first planet and noped the hell out. The game tries really hard to be funny like borderlands did and it fails exactly the same way for the exact same reasons.
I played it through out of boredom, my roommate bought it on release so it was free for me.
I don't even think you need to attack the woke shit because its also just a bad game entirely. You can within minutes crack the difficulty open and never run a risk, exploration is generally worthless outside completion, and the quests are never fun. It has all the flaws of the Fallout games and fails heavy on the positives.
And the major theme is so overplayed in every angle it just gets funny. Kinda like Starship Troopers were eventually I just became that raging capitalist asshole because it was more fun.
The one saving grace is you can pick up the Priest and robot companion and dodge most of the woke shit because neither of them are written that way and you can shutdown it anytime someone brings it to you. With that its just background radiation and I can be the homophobic hate monger I want by picking the obvious "wrong" options.
I initially kept the lesbian you start with, just because I had used her for long enough I didn't want to rebuild a new companion.
But she has the longest personal quest by a country mile, and its the most pathetic "fetch absurd shit for my lesbian date night, but each piece is across the galaxy" quest compared to the actually kinda emotional others, so I benched her with prejudice.
But yeah, if you take away the woke it does nothing that isn't done better in other games so its biggest crime is being generic and boring more than its ideological bullshit.
I played it and kinda just ignored the woke bs. I did enjoy the mechanics and gameplay, but even ignoring the woke bs, the writing was just...eh at best, and that's me being waaaaay to generous. I beat it mainly just to power through it, so I could be done with it. BandageBandolier and Galean are very much both dead on with the points they make. The world building could have had potential if the writing wasn't so shit. The second I beat the game, I removed it from my ps4. Don't even give a shit about the new DLC that came out.
I expected a new Vegas meets borderlands intergalactic romping good time. What I got was a clunky, broken faux-rpg fps with little real role-playing and combat gameplay from 15 years ago that honest to God made me fall asleep while playing it.
I've tried to play it a lot, but something about it makes me actually kind of sick when playing. Something.. blurry about it. I've tried all sorts of settings, but it's always there. I can't tell if it's just me, or there really is something going on. No other game has done this to me. I think it's the chromatic aberration, but turning it off did little. And yes, I have set up a higher fov.
The best way I can tell if RPG is good is I remember the story and companions, KOTOR 2 has Kreia, Handmaiden, Visas, and others. All excellent quality and interconnect with each other.
Mask of the Betrayer had Kaelyn. Who has the best voice and is woven into the main quest. She's just lovely.
NV had Cassidy, prickly but still enjoyable to have around and Veronica, yes does lean that way but it's tertiary for her concern over the Brotherhood and finding a dress.
Outworlds has Pravati, who's only reason is to shove a girlfriend and asexuality in your face. That's her whole character. Visas heals herself, Kaelyn falls in the service of rescuing other from the wall, Cassidy and Veronica both come to terms with what happened to them, caravan and brotherhood wise, and learn to let go, Pravati is just her sexuality. That's it, there's nothing redeeming about her. And I say only Pravati because that's the only companion I remember.
Just put gameplay aside and look at it from a purely story perspective. Outworlds just fails because it's the worse thing an RPG can be, it's boring. Characters, even Veronica, know not to have their sexuality as a main trait because there's only so much you can do with it storywise and it's bad writing. It's like the Andromeda "Hi I'm Trans" NPC, it's not a natural layer to the character, it's hamfisting in something by the writer.
Surely that one would be the one that supports the in-universe corporate line complete with globohomo propaganda like gay flags and parade floats.