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Winning the culture war using kindness, diplomacy and optics? It didn't work, does it.
posted 5 years ago by ramzaruglia 5 years ago by ramzaruglia +70 / -0

This following post is to those who are timid, those who replies "glowie" while being told the bitter truth. It's such a bitter pill to swallow, isn't it?

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– meowmeow85 31 points 5 years ago +31 / -0

Yeah we are past the point of that working. I shake my head at people like Tim Pool who say we are in 5th generational warfare that's won by winning hearts and minds. Now that may be true, but polite debate and bending over to be nice just doesn't work anymore. Trying to convince the woke left is pointless because of one thing, THEY HATE US. It's true they hate you with every fiber in their being. Now the fence sitters are a possibility but you have to hit them with fiery truth that they can't deny. No sugar coating things with daisies and bunnies.

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– StoicVampirePig 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

I think if this last year has proven anything it's that Tim Pool is an idiot and says whatever to get views.

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– 1776ReasonsWhy 11 points 5 years ago +11 / -0

People like Tim better stay in their new mountain cabins for the foreseeable future, because they've made exactly zero friends on either side with all of their waffling and fence-sitting.

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– M1919A2 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

He lacks the education to understand what is going on. And I don't mean the pieces of paper for colleges, et. al.. I think he was smart enough to see a couple of trends and ride those trends for near a decade, but now lacks the understanding to see and understand the world around him now.

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– BrainJuice 29 points 5 years ago +29 / -0

To be fair, the right gave up on winning the culture war years ago.

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– WorldsBestestFluffer 25 points 5 years ago +25 / -0

I understand how you feel, because I was one of the fools that thought we could still rely on reason and debate. In fact, I am guilty of having directly argued with people calling for more aggressive tactics, saying that we need kindness to build a larger group of allies. Look what good it did.

However, I will ask that you don't judge us too harshly. We weren't ready to see it yet. Hell, I still don't think we're ready to do what is necessary, even for those of us that can see it now. Even if I want to do my part, it doesn't mean that I know exactly where to start.

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– Arkana 13 points 5 years ago +13 / -0

We do need trust and kindness to build up allies, but they must be committed to giving up everything. The people who tend to act with "kindness" in mind, only do so out of the desire to avoid conflict and stay in safety. Conflict is inevitable, and everything must be approached with that in mind.

Quality over quantity. One ally who trusts you with every fibre of their being is worth more than 10000 people who will meekly follow you as long as you don't cause trouble.

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– WorldsBestestFluffer 5 points 5 years ago +5 / -0

Conflict is inevitable, and everything must be approached with that in mind.

We were the people that were willing to face conflict of words. While there are many cowards that couldn't even do that, now we're faced with the reality that words weren't enough. There are just too many that are just too weak willed.

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– persiaprince 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Those who still refuse to see are merely justifying their inaction in the false hope of maintaining their comfortable lives.

Mercy should be second to Justice.

Do not tolerate Evil.

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– StoicVampirePig 18 points 5 years ago +18 / -0

I doubt there ever was a 'culture war', it just boils down to the fact that the left wants (or think they do) what the globalists want, so they win.

Conservatism stands in the way of their dream of a one world governed prison so it must be denigrated and criminalised and ultimately destroyed.

So any mean spirts from our side are instantly pointed at and highlighted as why we should be hated...when they do it nothing happens but gofundme's and arse pats.

We and I mean white people have lost...we are too intelligent to be allowed to survive...we would not fit into the morlock race they are fashioning.

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– tamamo 14 points 5 years ago +14 / -0

The problem is that most right-wing people have everything to lose. Liberals are not going to lose their job by protesting for liberal ideas, where it is the fewest companies that are interested in getting labelled as nazis.

The right should learn from the left and weaponize the label communist. Everything bad is now communism, every leftie is now a communist.

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– censorthisss 12 points 5 years ago +12 / -0

It would have probably worked if we had fair elections.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 27 points 5 years ago +27 / -0

If your "kindness, diplomacy, and optics" allows the elections to be unfair, then it doesn't work.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

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– GoofTroop186 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

I don’t think the right or alt right ever actually tried winning the culture war with kindness and optics. We always talked about it but the boomer fudd types invaded and we got right back to obsessing over abortions and global warming real quick

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– Johan_Liebert 17 points 5 years ago +17 / -0

Original KIA for example left the doors open to anyone, "don't stoop to their level" rhetoric, denounced gate keeping and had the "this isn't political" mindset when people started pointing out the Frankfurt school and Commie tactics that were being used and as a result was always on the backfoot and in a defensive battle and infiltrated by bad actors. Metokur and a few others straight up said how to push them back but everyone was too concerned with optics and "being the good guys".....and don't even get me started on the "we just debate them and show them their wrong and they'll change" asshats.

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– firstones 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

Who has been timid? Go and try your way then.

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– FriedSalmon 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

In the face of violence, kindness never works, Only greater violence to subdue the violence that's threatening you. Otherwise you get wiped out eventually. The people you treat with kindness are your kinfolk and people who're likeminded. People who attack you without rhyme or reason aren't won over by kindness because they see it as weakness.

Look at the state of Europe. If kindness worked we wouldn't have terror attacks, people wouldn't be raped or murdered for being white. We wouldnt have all these rape gangs.

There comes a point where kindness crosses over into weakness, and it turns out that we're not actually kind anymore, just weak and docile.

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– anonymous570861 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

There's a speech on South Park a while back that really, really hits the nail on the head. You'll probably have to dig to find it.

Remember any specific plot details that would make the Episode easier to find? Sounds interesting.

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– anonymous570861 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Was it this speech from South Park episode 201?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFJJUXQGgYQ

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